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Handnr: 996624
Submitted by : TianYuan

PokerStars Zoom Hand #91583178104: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/12/31 16:19:35 JST [2012/12/31 2:19:35 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sebaru3 ($71 in chips)
Seat 2: TianYuan ($115.57 in chips)
Seat 3: Eroberer123 ($104.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Elglado ($202.49 in chips)
Seat 5: dankness3 ($339.87 in chips)
Seat 6: RivrMeADream ($336.07 in chips)
TianYuan: posts small blind $0.50
Eroberer123: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to TianYuan Kc9dKs2c
Elglado: folds
dankness3: raises $2 to $3
RivrMeADream: calls $3
sebaru3: folds
TianYuan: calls $2.50
Eroberer123: raises $12 to $15
dankness3: calls $12
RivrMeADream: calls $12
TianYuan: raises $60 to $75
Eroberer123: raises $29.75 to $104.75 and is all-in
dankness3: folds
RivrMeADream: folds
TianYuan: calls $29.75

Flop (Pot : $239.50)

   2dTd9h

Turn (Pot : $239.50)

   2dTd9hJs

River (Pot : $239.50)

   2dTd9hJs7c


Standard vs 50/35, 25% 3bet, 20% sqz right?

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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Dec 31 2012 09:56. Posts 308

Standard.

Also - I will never understand this:
>dankness3: folds
>RivrMeADream: folds

WTF are you doing?!?!?!?

overcall raise, overcall 3bet, then fold................................................

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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Dec 31 2012 09:59. Posts 308

Another thing.
There is a difference between somebody's "true" unknown to you 3bet frequency and what HUD 3bet stat tells you.
Simple example: if somebody 3bet you 2/2 times for 100% frequency, it doesn't mean his true 3bet is 100%
True frequency is difficult to estimate, but i would use average frequency of player pool as the basis and then adjust based on observed frequency.
For example if (assuming) that 3bet frequency of avg played is 8%, and that 50/35 donk has 25% 3bet in 100 hands, id say his true 3bet is probably closer to 17%.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Dec 31 2012 10:25. Posts 5112

this is a good spot with all the potential dead money in the pot too

:D 

TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 31 2012 10:31. Posts 6817


  On December 31 2012 08:59 nlwolf wrote:
Another thing.
There is a difference between somebody's "true" unknown to you 3bet frequency and what HUD 3bet stat tells you.
Simple example: if somebody 3bet you 2/2 times for 100% frequency, it doesn't mean his true 3bet is 100%
True frequency is difficult to estimate, but i would use average frequency of player pool as the basis and then adjust based on observed frequency.
For example if (assuming) that 3bet frequency of avg played is 8%, and that 50/35 donk has 25% 3bet in 100 hands, id say his true 3bet is probably closer to 17%.


The looser/tighter someone is tho, the quicker it should converge right...?

IE someone playing 100 vpip is going to be obvious somewhat quickly....

Also, Im not sure, but does it really make sense to compare outliers on either side to the average guys? Shouldn't it be more accurate to compare someone to their relative sub-species or whatever you wanna refer to them as...

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 31/12/2012 11:28

 

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