Goldstar ratholer, what should be my shoving range?

Ratholer? at nl16? Looks likes you have 40 hands on him..

as per your question, I'd say qq+

In fact, in general, vs 'ratholers' or no, I'd say qq+. It's not until a few stakes higher that getting it in vs full-stacks can show profitability w/ even jj.

The idea of *hopefully* only racing, and otherwise, crushed isn't very appealing

hes at more tables with same stacksizegoldstar status the probability is high imo. And it turned out he was later

You have 10455 posts on LP.net and still ask such a questions? Try to decide if you want to be winning player and start improving yourself ffs...

On January 19 2013 09:55 blueyes wrote: You have 10455 posts on LP.net and still ask such a questions? Try to decide if you want to be winning player and start improving yourself ffs...

I wouldn't be so harsh He's more of a theory guy.

btw, food for thought... set-hunting... = ratholing? One wonders.

What is this ratholing thing about? Sounds funny

On January 19 2013 10:11 SolarM wrote: What is this ratholing thing about? Sounds funny

Basically he plays with minimum buy in on many tables, and leaves when he doubles up or his stack goes above certain amount and sits on another table.
The reason why I am asking the question is that there really are not very many and never have been at the stakes I have been playing (NL5-NL100) all my career.
One of the training sites has an entire video and strategy section on how to rathole midstack, the whole idea behind it is that it simplifies poker you can play more tables and since you play MSS all the time others big stack strategy you will be better at adjusting than people like me who play vs serious MSSers rarely.

It's not really a bother I was just wondering. It's annoying to have a gaylord like that to your left when you are isoing a whale with super wide range all the time

On January 19 2013 10:18 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 19 2013 10:11 SolarM wrote: What is this ratholing thing about? Sounds funny Basically he plays with minimum buy in on many tables, and leaves when he doubles up or his stack goes above certain amount and sits on another table. The reason why I am asking the question is that there really are not very many and never have been at the stakes I have been playing (NL5-NL100) all my career. One of the training sites has an entire video and strategy section on how to rathole midstack, the whole idea behind it is that it simplifies poker you can play more tables and since you play MSS all the time others big stack strategy you will be better at adjusting than people like me who play vs serious MSSers rarely. It's not really a bother I was just wondering. It's annoying to have a gaylord like that to your left when you are isoing a whale with super wide range all the time

dude. nl100? I've seen you mention in the past that you *played* nl50. I would venture a guess that your lifetime hands played at nl 50 is less than 15000. If that. I've kept my mouth shut until now, but now that your bs nl50 story is evolving into nl100, felt like I had to speak up.

btw, this post seems harsh, I actually have nothing against you (with the exception of the bullshit). Obv. villain isn't doing this with 88-, so it really depends on how tilty you are.

I was a NL50 reg with shots at NL100 for 7+months in my first year wtf :D
I played most hours at NL50 since I started, prolly not hands cause I always masstabled lower stakes

My 4tabling challenge back in the day.

Good times keke, was last time I was 4tabling for a ton of hands

I never made it to NL100, took quite a few shots no of hands will be around 15k.
I was too much of a pussy massively over rolled with like 70BI for NL100 feared it too much.

Kinda think of it when I was 4tabling NL50 fulltime in easy years of uni was the last time I was really crushing ever since then it was a struggle with fulltime jobs uni or having to cashout $750 per month for rent when I was playing fulltime at NL25 after uni.

Well now I have fun at my job it ain't a boring office shit I'm sure this time I will make it to the top

lol at all of these comments

Hey Lemon, I've read some of your posts in the small stakes forums and your advice was pretty good.

As for this spot, just put it in equilab:

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Equity Win Tie
MP2 35.78% 35.58% 0.20% { 99 }
MP3 64.22% 64.02% 0.20% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


People that have 5% 3bet usually have a super tight cold 4betting range. He might just have AA/KK here, or AA only.

Just fold and be happy he is value-cutting himself with his short stack and his face-up play.

Also, I think you are too tight. I think it's optimal to be about 30/20 at these stakes. You should be opening your button when it's folded to you with an absurd amount of hands.

These players are so predictable and bad, you are missing a lot of value by folding PF with good-mediocre hands.