Getting a job :O - Page 2

On January 14 2012 08:40 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2012 04:43 iop wrote: Norwegian company, Meltwater Group? Yep I guess there aren't that many lol Do you know about it and what do you think? I am really looking for negatives, I couldn't find any so far, which is a but suspicious tbh O.o

A friend who just graduated from uni got a job there as a sales consultant, and he loves it. Very good money, I think he made something like $15-20k for Nov and Dec on commission and the base salary is good iirc.

On January 14 2012 10:20 iop wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2012 08:40 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On January 14 2012 04:43 iop wrote: Norwegian company, Meltwater Group? Yep I guess there aren't that many lol Do you know about it and what do you think? I am really looking for negatives, I couldn't find any so far, which is a but suspicious tbh O.o A friend who just graduated from uni got a job there as a sales consultant, and he loves it. Very good money, I think he made something like $15-20k for Nov and Dec on commission and the base salary is good iirc.

Thanks a lot for even more reasons to want it

This is precisely it just over here. I made some very obvious mistakes at the interview. E.g. there was a role play and I was supposed to pretend I am calling to the director of Pepsi and they told me his name. My brain was focused on Pepsi and that the name must be one of the directors and it didn't click that it's actually the name of one of the guys from the interviewing panel and I asked who will be acting as the director lol.

But you know, fingers crossed I will be really upset if I don't get it

Do not fall into the trap that is known as sales. The only time you should do sales is if you own your own business.

On January 14 2012 01:47 PuertoRican wrote: Being a door to door salesman isn't a good job and you wont end up doing it for a long time. The only reason why people get into it, at least in USA, is cuz they are told how much money they can make, but in reality it's hard to make that money. Do whatever makes you happy, but don't expect to last long as a door to door salesman.

there's a big difference between going door-to-door strictly to companies and neighborhoods.

if they want you to go door-to-door in neighborhoods then it's likely a scam.

I work sales for a global shipping company and I sometimes do door-to-door work to drum up leads (only businesses), but I am compensated very very well with a nice base salary + commission + full benefits + car/gas/laptop etc.

I sell a very niche product in a huge market. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. If I had to sell insurance or fire alarms there's not a chance in hell I would do that

On January 14 2012 11:59 RICHI8 wrote: Do not fall into the trap that is known as sales. The only time you should do sales is if you own your own business.

I'm guessing you're not apart of the business world? Obviously there's a huge difference between someone selling life insurance and someone selling medical equipment.

Sales professionals in well established companies make very good money. It's just a common misconception because there's so many scams out there and everyone lumps them into the "sales" category.

On January 14 2012 12:45 TheTrees wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2012 11:59 RICHI8 wrote: Do not fall into the trap that is known as sales. The only time you should do sales is if you own your own business. I'm guessing you're not apart of the business world? Obviously there's a huge difference between someone selling life insurance and someone selling medical equipment. Sales professionals in well established companies make very good money. It's just a common misconception because there's so many scams out there and everyone lumps them into the "sales" category.

Yeah, all companies need sales, from the most shady to the most reputable they need to sell their stuff

If you have a passion for it, do it. Download some audio books on sales (Brian Tracy) and be ready to fail. Work your ass off every single day and you'll succeed. I started 8 months ago after I finished college and I now have over 60 clients that ship internationally w/ my company (closed 3 big accounts this week). I'm on pace to be making 6 figures by this time next year.

Good luck and if you have any questions ask away.

On January 14 2012 09:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2012 04:51 byrnesam wrote: Everyone gets jobs in commission only sales. Its like an open revolving door of people going in and out. Get a real job with a wage/salary. If youve been told you can earn the equivelant of even minimum wage at this sales job, its a fucking lie, but they probably tell you youll be earning $75k or whatever - the targets for commission are so bloated you will never hit it. Your psychology degree wont mean shit, as you're usually selling an inferior product. The bulk of sales will be to the lonely, the vulnerable and the uneducated who take your word as gospel. You will be signing up people to a contract they dont really understand for a product they dont need and cant afford just so you can make some cash for the day. You can improve your social skills just by going out and meeting people, infact that will improve your social skills a lot more than pretending to be nice to people so you can hopefully sell them something, which is ultimately what you will end up doing. I did telesales for 2 years, you could pretty much tell if you had a chance of selling based on the persons name. Female Maori, probably unemployed/low income, easy sale. They got dazzled by the sum insured amounts and the "low premiums" and all the bullshit i would feed them, and all i cared about was the $20 commission at the end of it. Dont confuse a salesman with someone being social, they just want your money. If you perform really well they wont promote you because youre worth more selling. Yeah true that, what I'd be selling door to door is broadband from Talk Talk, and they sell for Apple and Lovefilm too. The broadband actually is the cheapest in the UK but not fastest and does have some 40GB/mo caps. I expected them to really try to push it onto people but when I was with the guy who does this for some months he just snap left people that were negative at the door or said they are happy now. I know what it is for who it's good etc. I can't imagine selling e.g. soaps or something I know is crap. The thing they sell is optimal for some people, and who we sold to were either people who have a fucked up broadband with another company (broadband companies love to overload their hubs so I have some 2000ms pings in peaks lol) or are just completely mental like e.g this 60y old hard worker lady who paid $160 for broadband and TV every month lol. The tech company is just completely different, they sell something that is new and I know companies really need and that can save them money - I know if I'm a director I'd want to have a service that pulls data from all news from various languages, and to be able to monitor e.g. activity and tone of mentions on social networks which is what the company does. I'm just surprised they weren't snatched by MIcrosoft or Google or News corp yet :O And unlike the door to door it's actually Base Salary AND Commission.

he snap leaves because they arent the people he makes sales from. He gets sales from people who dont know whats going on, want someone to talk to etc. It had nothing to do with "oh I know hes getting a better deal at the moment"

Which is why he didnt say "that woman is clearly mental, it wouldnt be right to sell her something she doesnt understand"

I was selling Life Insurance for over 50's. After a while i just stopped calling men, I would just mark their record as "no answer" and move on to the next call because women generally understood less about life insurance and were more willing to buy over the phone.

Yeh, the product was good for some people, every product is that and whatever youll be selling youll be told how amazing it is for people and "omg think about people who need a life insurance but are over 50 and have health problems and need pre-approved cover etc."

You didnt do that mental lady any favours, she probably buys off every person who turns up to her door. The guy who signed her up to the $160 plan knew that, but he probably got good commission on the sale of the highest package and signed her up anyway.

If you're interested in a sales position where you're not a complete douche bag for being a salesman, look at safety supplies sales. I just got into it here in Oregon, and because of some really good and really bad laws, a lot of manufacturers do not comply with OSHA regulations. So if you can offer them a good price on supplies while meeting safety standards, there is a fuck ton of business to be done.

zep, if you ever run into companies that ship internationally feel free to toss some leads my way haha

On January 14 2012 12:45 TheTrees wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2012 11:59 RICHI8 wrote: Do not fall into the trap that is known as sales. The only time you should do sales is if you own your own business. I'm guessing you're not apart of the business world? Obviously there's a huge difference between someone selling life insurance and someone selling medical equipment. Sales professionals in well established companies make very good money. It's just a common misconception because there's so many scams out there and everyone lumps them into the "sales" category.

Thank you for making such a boneheaded comment. I've actually done sales. Everything from the consumer side to the business side. I've both owned my own business and now I work at a fast growing startup that is doing really well. Everyone at some point in their life is going to do sales. The idea is you learn it and then pay someone else to do it for you so you never have to do it again. Working in sales is a horrible lifestyle and anyone who finds it enjoying for a long period of time doesn't have a spine. It's an evil necessity and I'm so glad people do it for me now.