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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 05:14. Posts 34286

Hey im about to buy a new PC to have 2 grind stations, my current set-up is with two widescreen 22" monitors, it works well, but im considering buying a 30" but im not sure wich option works the best, i kinda feel that two monitors allows you to have a more organized screens, not sure.

So who has tried both and what is your opinion?

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DooMeR   United States. Apr 03 2012 05:27. Posts 8562

30inch
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DooMeR   United States. Apr 03 2012 05:28. Posts 8562

now if u want to actually be even smarter. go with a 30inch and a 24inch or something on the side for HM and table selecting maybe something else but if u had to choose between exactly two 24s or a 30inch the choice is ez.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 05:42. Posts 34286

What monitor do you have, how much?

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Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 03 2012 05:48. Posts 10422

I got a 27" one and I'm satisfied with it. Didn't buy 2 yet though that was my plan at the start. Thing is, 1 30" costs the same as 2 27" here. So if it's the same, I would get 2 27" monitors. Difference is 'only' 160 pixels vertical (2560x1440 vs 2560x1600).

 Last edit: 03/04/2012 05:49

D_Zoo   Canada. Apr 03 2012 05:53. Posts 4013

Baal go 30 its the best. I have the Dell one. I've had a couple 27s as well but nothing is like 2560x1600 on the 30!

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 06:21. Posts 34286


  On April 03 2012 04:48 Twisted wrote:
I got a 27" one and I'm satisfied with it. Didn't buy 2 yet though that was my plan at the start. Thing is, 1 30" costs the same as 2 27" here. So if it's the same, I would get 2 27" monitors. Difference is 'only' 160 pixels vertical (2560x1440 vs 2560x1600).



that big of a difference? 2 27"s sound sweet, maybe 1 27 would suffice tho

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Balzamon   Sweden. Apr 03 2012 06:26. Posts 2868

i agree with everyone that says the 30", i also have Dells, its amazing playing on a single 30" with two monitors you have to turn your head a lot more, not comfortable. Buying a 30" (even tho expensive) is the best electronic purchase i have done.


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 03 2012 06:47. Posts 6374

dual 30" ...

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Apr 03 2012 07:29. Posts 5647

In terms of how much desktop space you get for the dollars, 2x27" is much much cheaper?

main thing is to get high resolution, like twisteds 2560x1440 would be great. My 27" only goes does 1920x1080


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 03 2012 07:38. Posts 4742

My opinion, I used to have one 30 and one 27, but really didn't like the 27, it just felt awkward, so I gave it away, then I used a 30 and a 22, didn't like that either, no symmetry, so I gave the 22 away.

Now I'm thinking about getting a 24 lol, since this one is too big for my graphic card and cpu to run games, due to the 2560 x 1600. It's sweet and all, but I can't fastforward replays in SC2, and I can't run Diablo 3 on max without lag or some screen tearing. And even when it's got full graphic, I'm a little too close, it feels as if It'd be more comfortable with something smaller lol.

I rant about games lol, but just for Poker two 30 inch is probably coolest if you got a wide space. Poker one one and articles, notes, lobbies and stuff in the other sound really comfortable.

I have several mates who claims they've gotten eye problems with playing with a 30 for too long, they get dry, uncomfortable. Like Dokosko, so he sold his two, and now he's rolling with a laptop lol.

My hunch is that Two 24 is perfect, at least for my use, since I like to game and write notes, read articles and multi task a lot. If you got a lot of space, and mostly for Poker, probably two 30.


The72o   Zimbabwe. Apr 03 2012 07:53. Posts 6112

I had 2x203b before, now I have 30'' dell, def go for 30''

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palak   United States. Apr 03 2012 08:21. Posts 4601

If u have the money then buy a 30", or at least a 27 w/ 2560x1440...if u play more than 4 tables I believe 2560x1600 is the res needed to tile 6 tables w/o shrinking...if ur gonna be playin vid games on it then obv u have to spend at least $500 on a vid card since u need at least gtx 680 for single card and prob need crossfire or sli cards that r 7870 or better to get over 60 fps.

I love the fact that poker players care more about screen size and have nicer displays than anyone in americas workforce except for programmors, stock brockers, and some IT....like at most work places i know of for cheme engs 19" is standard, 22" is considered huge

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 03 2012 08:40. Posts 5360

i use a 30inch +27inch.

you don't need a 30inch unless your going to play lots of tables. But if you've got lots of monies then get it anyway. when you've got 4 big tables you'll be able to notice a little bit more and play slightly better.

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 03 2012 08:40. Posts 4742

If the choice comes down to one 30 or two 24, I'd go with 24 any day of the week. It's much more organized and you get more shit done, + you can multi task more fluent.


handbanana21   United States. Apr 03 2012 09:40. Posts 3037

I was always told that 30 was bad for your eyes. I just use a 24.


napalm   Poland. Apr 03 2012 09:44. Posts 171

I have 30 + 27 in pivot (vertical?) and its pretty awesome


Highcard   Canada. Apr 03 2012 10:23. Posts 5428

there is no reason not to get a 30" unless you want to save money

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daysare   Poland. Apr 03 2012 10:31. Posts 670



I think it's ez now.

Personally, Im buying 24 + 30


palak   United States. Apr 03 2012 11:25. Posts 4601


  On April 03 2012 08:44 napalm wrote:
27 in pivot (vertical?)


Known as portrait mode
Normal is landscape

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ggplz   Sweden. Apr 03 2012 11:40. Posts 16784

30"

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Zep   United States. Apr 03 2012 11:40. Posts 2292

Dual monitors is way overrated for poker. One 30" is the best solution as most everyone is saying.

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Syntax   United States. Apr 03 2012 11:51. Posts 4415

27'' monitors and below do not have a higher resolution than 1920 x 1080. (unless they're ultrasharp)

30'' "Ultrasharp" is what you want. Those have huuuuuuuuge resolutions.

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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Apr 03 2012 11:58. Posts 1585

30'' its not even close. You can get a smaller one on the side if you want. But if price is not an issue just get the 30''.

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palak   United States. Apr 03 2012 13:18. Posts 4601


  On April 03 2012 10:51 Syntax wrote:
27'' monitors and below do not have a higher resolution than 1920 x 1080. (unless they're ultrasharp)


Not true, just need to know where to look..my 22" has 1920x1200 res

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2012 16:42. Posts 11625

once you go 30 inch you never go back


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 03 2012 17:00. Posts 10896

i rather have 2 19inch than 1 30 ;o)
maybe im too used to having 2 monitors and couldnt have only one anymore


Balzamon   Sweden. Apr 03 2012 17:36. Posts 2868


  On April 03 2012 16:00 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
i rather have 2 19inch than 1 30 ;o)
maybe im too used to having 2 monitors and couldnt have only one anymore



i believe if you got a 30" and kept it for at least a week you would never ever look back.


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Apr 03 2012 18:05. Posts 5122

For 12 tabling i like 2x 24" monitors and 6 table on each screen. No overlap

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2012 18:22. Posts 11625

i would play poker again if i had 2 30inch monitors, thats how good that shit is.


waga   United Kingdom. Apr 03 2012 19:05. Posts 2375

If I was a PS team online pro balla I would buy 2 30" and would not make a thread on LP.


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 19:21. Posts 34286

I should have specfified before, i almost never play over 8 tables, i do play games and money is an issue, now that i cant afford it but i dont want to spew unnecesarely.

I didnt know i needed a sick card for a 30" i thought a regular video card could handle it, i was planning on getting a Geforce GTX440 1GB, that cant handle a 30" or 27"?

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The72o   Zimbabwe. Apr 03 2012 19:28. Posts 6112

I use GF460GTX for my dell, but when I bought it i had 260gt and it worked like a charm with 30+20.
The only thing your card needs to have is dual-link technology

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casinocasino   Canada. Apr 03 2012 19:45. Posts 3347

single 22 inch baby


whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2012 19:56. Posts 11625

no brainer baal, 2 30s is so good it will pay for itself within a week. thank us later.


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 20:03. Posts 34286


  On April 03 2012 18:28 The72o wrote:
I use GF460GTX for my dell, but when I bought it i had 260gt and it worked like a charm with 30+20.
The only thing your card needs to have is dual-link technology



dual link meaning 2 ports like DVI And VGA?

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2012 20:14. Posts 11625

hdmi son


The72o   Zimbabwe. Apr 03 2012 20:21. Posts 6112


  On April 03 2012 19:03 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



dual link meaning 2 ports like DVI And VGA?

nono, there are two types of DVI ports single-link and dual-link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
as you can see for WQXGA you need to have dual-link DVI.
If you are really planing to get GTX440, you can be 100% sure it will work.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 03 2012 20:36. Posts 34286


  On April 03 2012 06:29 Silver_nz wrote:
In terms of how much desktop space you get for the dollars, 2x27" is much much cheaper?

main thing is to get high resolution, like twisteds 2560x1440 would be great. My 27" only goes does 1920x1080



im starting to think that an initial 27" (and if i find it lacking maybe adding another one later), but most i find are 1920x1080 which are garbage since you cant fit more than 2 tables horizontally without overlapping.

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the cleaner   Germany. Apr 03 2012 20:39. Posts 3014


  On April 03 2012 04:53 D_Zoo wrote:
Baal go 30 its the best. I have the Dell one. I've had a couple 27s as well but nothing is like 2560x1600 on the 30!




I also switched from 2 x 27" to 1 x 30". I just bought a 20" dell monitor (not widescreen) with 1600x1200 resolution to use as a secondary monitor with the 30".

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k4ir0s   Canada. Apr 03 2012 21:59. Posts 3478

i still play on my 15.5'' laptop tiling 15 tables lolz. been thinking about getting a 30'' setup, but it's so much more comfortable laying back on my comfy chair rather than slouching at a desktop

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daysare   Poland. Apr 03 2012 22:01. Posts 670


  On April 03 2012 19:36 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



im starting to think that an initial 27" (and if i find it lacking maybe adding another one later), but most i find are 1920x1080 which are garbage since you cant fit more than 2 tables horizontally without overlapping.




haven't you come across dell u2711 when looking for 27 inch display?


Zep   United States. Apr 03 2012 22:41. Posts 2292


  On April 03 2012 21:01 daysare wrote:
Show nested quote +



haven't you come across dell u2711 when looking for 27 inch display?


They don't have that on google mexico

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2012 23:06. Posts 11625

27s are a lot cheaper but man all the winning regs use 30s lol.
seriously im surprised you're even making a thread and not getting a 30 already.


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 04 2012 00:17. Posts 34286

Mexicos supply is kinda limited and many are imported and overpriced, for example a 27" monitor with a resolution above 1920x1080 will be at least $1k, im guessing a good 30" should be over 1.5k.

In fact i think ive decided to go for dual widescreen 23"s, i just saw those (in mex) at like $190 each.


I know i can afford to use 30"s as wallpapers for my room but its not the point, i like to keep a healthy balance in my expenses, i think its very easy to get carried away, im buying a 2nd and top-end computer for these monitors so im spending about 2k in the whole thing its not like im nitting it up badly

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longple    Sweden. Apr 04 2012 02:49. Posts 4472


  On April 03 2012 22:06 whamm! wrote:
27s are a lot cheaper but man all the winning regs use 30s lol.
seriously im surprised you're even making a thread and not getting a 30 already.



this

atleast try and get two 27'' with 2560x1600, otherwise it would be really pointless ^^

its just one 5bet bluff at 10/20 man come on

edit:
(pointless getting new screens unless 27'' 2560x1600 +++ is what i mean)
(and yes obv worth it for 1-2k$/screen)

 Last edit: 04/04/2012 07:30

DooMeR   United States. Apr 04 2012 02:56. Posts 8562

i like how basically only 2 people that said not to get a 30 have actually even used a 30. and anyone else that has used a 30 have said to get one and this thread is stupid .

if price is an option go with 2 24's though.

also u can always look for a used one

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 04 2012 03:32. Posts 4742

^ What I was thinking, LOL at going with 23's, that's for noobs, don't do it Baal, each time you lay down the law in a post, or say something rude, or semi-intelligent, it won't work, people will just giggle at your 23's. Please get at least 24's.


2c0ntent   Egypt. Apr 04 2012 11:20. Posts 1387


  On April 04 2012 02:32 Mariuslol wrote:
^ What I was thinking, LOL at going with 23's, that's for noobs, don't do it Baal, each time you lay down the law in a post, or say something rude, or semi-intelligent, it won't work, people will just giggle at your 23's. Please get at least 24's.


Everyone knows that the worth of a man is measured by the dimensions of his monitor(s).

That's why I use dual 25 inch CRTs

+-Last edit: 04/04/2012 11:21

palak   United States. Apr 04 2012 11:41. Posts 4601

Jesus christ I just checked shipping cost on amazon...$30 per shipment plus $7 per lb for electronics...a 27" monitor had $219 in shipping cost when the monitor is only $680...fucking 30% extra cost for shipping is insane. Especially when its free shipping to 48 states
Distance LA to Augusta Maine, 2660 miles, cost of shipping=0
Distance LA to Mexico city, 1550 miles, cost of shipping=$219
Blows my mind

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Balzamon   Sweden. Apr 04 2012 12:10. Posts 2868


  On April 03 2012 23:17 Baalim wrote:
Mexicos supply is kinda limited and many are imported and overpriced, for example a 27" monitor with a resolution above 1920x1080 will be at least $1k, im guessing a good 30" should be over 1.5k.

In fact i think ive decided to go for dual widescreen 23"s, i just saw those (in mex) at like $190 each.


I know i can afford to use 30"s as wallpapers for my room but its not the point, i like to keep a healthy balance in my expenses, i think its very easy to get carried away, im buying a 2nd and top-end computer for these monitors so im spending about 2k in the whole thing its not like im nitting it up badly



- make a thread and ask for help with screen
- 99% reply get a 30" inch its awesome and worth it
- buys dual 23s...

I cant see how buying top notch equipment for your job, that has made you rich and is where you spend a lot of your time, is a wasteless and carried away expense.

 Last edit: 04/04/2012 12:12

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 04 2012 12:40. Posts 4742


  On April 04 2012 10:41 palak wrote:
Jesus christ I just checked shipping cost on amazon...$30 per shipment plus $7 per lb for electronics...a 27" monitor had $219 in shipping cost when the monitor is only $680...fucking 30% extra cost for shipping is insane. Especially when its free shipping to 48 states
Distance LA to Augusta Maine, 2660 miles, cost of shipping=0
Distance LA to Mexico city, 1550 miles, cost of shipping=$219
Blows my mind



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TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 04 2012 16:12. Posts 20070


  On April 03 2012 04:48 Twisted wrote:
I got a 27" one and I'm satisfied with it. Didn't buy 2 yet though that was my plan at the start. Thing is, 1 30" costs the same as 2 27" here. So if it's the same, I would get 2 27" monitors. Difference is 'only' 160 pixels vertical (2560x1440 vs 2560x1600).



if you can get resolution that high on a 27 its prob slighly better then a 30', I just say 30' because most monitors dont have resolution that high they genereally peak at 1920x1080 which is not so good

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edzwoo   United States. Jul 13 2012 01:26. Posts 5911

I was gonna make a thread on this, but I figured it would be simpler to just bump this thread.

You can buy Yamasaki Catleap monitors off eBay for about $300. These are 27" IPS monitors with 2560x1440 resolution. You probably haven't heard of the brand, but that's because it's a Korean brand that isn't sold in the US. In Korea, these kinds of monitors retail on average for $250, as opposed to the $800+ in the US.

Few notes:
-All the 27"-30" super high res monitors actually use LG flat panel displays. The Catleap has the same panel as 27" iMacs.
-The monitors additional features are mostly nonexistent. The cheapest one will simply have a DVI port, audio in, volume and brightness. No HDMI port or advanced features.
-Because there aren't really any inputs from the last point, the monitor is good for gaming as it won't have that much input lag.
-It comes with one of those Asian 2 pronged plugs. If you live in the US, you'll have to have a spare power cord. Any will do.
-You need to make sure your graphics card can support the monitor. The sellers usually have a breakdown of what popular cards will work with this monitor. Also, don't expect to run them off your laptop.
-Some people have had issues with the DVI-D dual link cable that comes with it. Mine works, but if yours doesn't, you have to make sure that the DVI cable you buy is a DVI-D dual link cable. I bought one off Amazon that I thought would work because it was advertised as DVI-D Dual link, but a few of the negative reviews stated it did not support the high resolution. It didn't work and I just ended up using the one that came with the monitor.
-It comes with a swivel stand that isn't the best of build quality. Personally I think it's fine.

Just search "catleap" on ebay and you'll find a bunch of listings. Supposedly "green-sum" is the seller most people like buying from. I got it from him and it got here in 4 days with no problems.

Here's more information.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club


Into Infinity   United States. Jul 13 2012 03:33. Posts 1884

first thing i thought of when i saw this thread was one word
+ Show Spoiler +



btw did you get the pixel perfect thing? is it worth the extra fiddy? or should i gambol

 Last edit: 13/07/2012 03:34

Baalim   Mexico. Jul 13 2012 04:28. Posts 34286


  On July 13 2012 00:26 edzwoo wrote:
I was gonna make a thread on this, but I figured it would be simpler to just bump this thread.

You can buy Yamasaki Catleap monitors off eBay for about $300. These are 27" IPS monitors with 2560x1440 resolution. You probably haven't heard of the brand, but that's because it's a Korean brand that isn't sold in the US. In Korea, these kinds of monitors retail on average for $250, as opposed to the $800+ in the US.

Few notes:
-All the 27"-30" super high res monitors actually use LG flat panel displays. The Catleap has the same panel as 27" iMacs.
-The monitors additional features are mostly nonexistent. The cheapest one will simply have a DVI port, audio in, volume and brightness. No HDMI port or advanced features.
-Because there aren't really any inputs from the last point, the monitor is good for gaming as it won't have that much input lag.
-It comes with one of those Asian 2 pronged plugs. If you live in the US, you'll have to have a spare power cord. Any will do.
-You need to make sure your graphics card can support the monitor. The sellers usually have a breakdown of what popular cards will work with this monitor. Also, don't expect to run them off your laptop.
-Some people have had issues with the DVI-D dual link cable that comes with it. Mine works, but if yours doesn't, you have to make sure that the DVI cable you buy is a DVI-D dual link cable. I bought one off Amazon that I thought would work because it was advertised as DVI-D Dual link, but a few of the negative reviews stated it did not support the high resolution. It didn't work and I just ended up using the one that came with the monitor.
-It comes with a swivel stand that isn't the best of build quality. Personally I think it's fine.

Just search "catleap" on ebay and you'll find a bunch of listings. Supposedly "green-sum" is the seller most people like buying from. I got it from him and it got here in 4 days with no problems.

Here's more information.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club



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patti   United States. Jul 13 2012 09:51. Posts 550

I have one as well, portalion brand. Paid 10 dollars extra for the 0 dead pixel guarantee.

Pretty satisfied with it, although it bleeds light terribly around the corners when image is supposed to be black. Hardly noticeable except for at startup, or when watching a movie with a scene that is incredibly dark.


patti   United States. Jul 13 2012 09:55. Posts 550

Im not sure how good these are for gaming. Yes there is no input lag beacause they only offer one input (dvi) but the re fresh rate is capped at 60hz and you might get less. I think if playing an action fps like battlefie.ld 60 Hz monitors compared to 120hz monitors may seem laggy/ghosted.

Personally I think the price of these monitors more than makes up for any cons in these monitors.

Also shipping was free and fast, got mine in 3 days

 Last edit: 13/07/2012 09:55

NewbSaibot   United States. Jul 13 2012 10:18. Posts 4946

refresh rate response time are two independent values. Refresh rate has nothing to do with ghosting, that is simply the rate at which the video card sends a signal to the monitor. Response time is how quickly the monitor can change the colors of pixels on screen. Running at 60hz vs 120hz will have no impact on ghosting. However having a 2ms vs 6ms monitor will.

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taco   Iceland. Jul 13 2012 10:50. Posts 1793


  On July 13 2012 09:18 NewbSaibot wrote:
refresh rate response time are two independent values. Refresh rate has nothing to do with ghosting, that is simply the rate at which the video card sends a signal to the monitor. Response time is how quickly the monitor can change the colors of pixels on screen. Running at 60hz vs 120hz will have no impact on ghosting. However having a 2ms vs 6ms monitor will.



Refresh rate (measured in Hertz) is not the rate at which the video card sends a signal to the monitor
but the amount of individual and complete frames the screen is capable of producing every second.

Response time (measured in seconds) is the amount of time it takes an individual pixel to turn from a state
to the requested state.

What you might be able to read from that is that they measure the same thing my dear, it's just that when they needed to find a way to
measure the refresh rate of LCDs it did not seem appropriate to use the same method (and measurement) as they use for CRT screens.

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