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DaEm0niCuS   United States. Apr 17 2012 12:10. Posts 3292

Arguing some JFK conspiracy is not helping your credibility D_smart, and no one is ever going to win that argument either way + who cares. dead is dead.


tynuji   Canada. Apr 17 2012 12:15. Posts 16


  On April 17 2012 10:54 DaEm0niCuS wrote:
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Clearly you didn't watch the video, the patients he was treating had brain tumors with a mortality rate of like 90% and the remaining 10% wouldn't even live > 5 years after chemo, the chemo also has an insane amount of horrible side effects including ending up a vegetable that could never leave the house in many cases. His treatment on the other hand had no side effects and the patients who were cured, were cured for > 5 years/forever.



I don't think turning into a vegetable is a side effect of the chemo, most brain side effects involve short term memory loss and can lead to dementia as well as vision loss.

The whole point is that his drug has been shown to have an efficacy of a placebo, meaning those that were "cured" were likely going to improve regardless of whether they took his treatment. This I think is a textbook case of correlation does not lead to causation. What's even worse is that there isn't even really a correlation, but more that they are telling you that all these people are getting cured when chemo did not work, therefore it must be the treatment doing it, but the evidence his treatment is based on are the testimonials and not repeated trials with statistical analysis, a poor standard in modern science.

If you read the article that palak posted, it does not really debunk his treatment, but rather it states that it's not the end of all cancer, it helped with one form but others showed no effect; so, if anything it should be treated as an idea that should be looked into. But the guy is treating it as if he has done the unimaginable and cured cancer which is a real issue in the scientific community, making claims with no substantial proof under vicious and demanding standards.

 Last edit: 17/04/2012 12:30

NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 17 2012 12:21. Posts 4946


  On April 17 2012 03:52 D_smart_S wrote:
Oh, and remind me to blast your head with a sniper rifle in the back and expect you bounce backwards. LOL seriously, how can anyone be fooled that such huge force in the back can result in backwards motion. You guys watch all kinds of retarded fights on TV. Have you seen anyone getting hit hard on the right side of the face and his head moving right? My cat knows this better than some of you, how can we even argue about something so simple and basic in physics?!?



What about the exit wound? Exit wounds are going to be larger than entry wounds. The whole top half of JFK's forehead exploded outwards, from a bullet that was travelling behind it, carrying all of his brain matter with it.

bye now 

uiCk   Canada. Apr 17 2012 12:40. Posts 3521

Sorry DaEm0niCuS, but ur fucking idiot too. i have no sympathies for people who spread stupidity and ignorance.

If you could ask Steve Jobs right now if he would go through alternative treatments again he would laugh in your face.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

DaEm0niCuS   United States. Apr 17 2012 13:05. Posts 3292

Clearly id go with the standard treatment for 99.99% of cancers. If the doctors however told me the survival rate was only 5% and I had 1 year to live without treatment and 1-5 years with successful treatment, id probably start looking for an alternative.

Clearly none of us know anything about cancer. The video did however make it look like the FDA had a massive interest in shutting this guy down even after losing at grand jury over four times. I fail to see why they would continue to pursue him if his treatment had no merit and they didn't have some sort of financial incentive.

 Last edit: 17/04/2012 13:13

uiCk   Canada. Apr 17 2012 13:21. Posts 3521

Alternative treatments are in reality preventive treatement. For example berries and such with large anti oxidants etc. Preventive treatment is just that, for prior to disease. After that you have to fight the disease, not prevent, which is what naturopathy does (and even there).


Daemoncus, just because there is some doubt about the trial, does not prove ANYTHING except that there is some doubt. The trial is NOT an scientific experiment nor does it prove fuck all. Law =/= Science

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

devon06atX   Canada. Apr 17 2012 14:25. Posts 5459

As much of a moron I think dss is, you're pretty ignorant if you truly think oswald was even the real shooter (and triply fucking retarded if you think he acted alone...)

I'm surprised the average american doesn't know more about a topic of that magnitude


 
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