D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 12 2012 17:17. Posts 688
Yo! How we all doin, boys and girls. I really think the tutz's "Change your ways" blogpost was left somewhat unfinished and with a lot of questionmarks. So I thought that among the conspiracy theories suggested by tutz(there were many vids) were some plausible theories and some crazy but whatever my idea is that if you want I can create a thread where you put me in the position of defending the thesis of ONE conspiracy theory suggested by tutz and I would do my best to present the theory in several key points just as many of you suggested tutz do it just to see where it takes us and see some world class trolling ofcourse . Crazy theories create crazy threads so here is your chance to put any conspiracy theory no matter how crazy under test and I would try to present the strongest arguments of the conspiracy theory and defend it. It's not that I believe in every theory out there but I know enough on each of them so it would be a fun discussion. So - choose your crazy conspiracy theory you want me to defend. Let the Conspiracy shoot-out begin.
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Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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YouGoTGoT   United States. Jun 12 2012 17:41. Posts 1118
1. Michael Jackson was an alien.
2. The Bradley-Pacquiao fight was rigged.
3. Michael Jackson rigged the Bradley-Pacquiao fight, with the help of aliens.
YA I TALK SHIT, GOTTA DEFECATE TO CONVERSATE
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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 12 2012 17:46. Posts 1779
so u wanna defend a random bullshit theory which u probably dont believe is true, sounds boring and retarded
lol I didnt sign up for this.
If a thread is created I will make a comment here and there, but D_Smart_S words are not mine. We have very different minds.
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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 12 2012 18:02. Posts 688
yeah, I am just presenting the theory itself not your or anyone else's opinion. Just wating for some more suggestion. MJ=Marijuana, Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan. The holy trinity :D
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP. Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
Slavoj Žižek, a slovenian philosopher and cultural critic
much more educational then debating with 2 retards about how world is controlled by
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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SugoGosu   Korea (South). Jun 12 2012 19:07. Posts 1793
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP.
Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Come on man...
Say this outloud! Why was six afraid of seven?......Because Seven Eight Nine
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barbieman   Sweden. Jun 12 2012 19:40. Posts 2132
On June 12 2012 16:41 YouGoTGoT wrote:
1. Michael Jackson was an alien.
2. The Bradley-Pacquiao fight was rigged.
3. Michael Jackson rigged the Bradley-Pacquiao fight, with the help of aliens.
Holy shit! I was thinking the exact same thing, word for word! The fact that we both came to the same conclusion without any contact whatsoever an only mean one thing: Oprah likes it in the ass.
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 12 2012 20:01. Posts 1845
A certain phrase backwards
Rear naked woke
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 12 2012 21:25. Posts 34294
Dude you cant even defend the stupid theories you believe in, now you will defend something you dont?
Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 12 2012 23:10. Posts 1845
Fritz Artz Springmeier is an American conspiracy theorist and religious right wing author
On January 31, 2002, Springmeier was indicted in the United States District Court in Portland, Oregon[6] in connection with an armed robbery. On February 12, 2003, he was found guilty of one count of armed bank robbery in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2113(a) and (d) and one count of aiding and abetting in the use of a semi-automatic rifle during the commission of a felony in violation of of 18 U.S.C § 924(c)(1).[7][8] In November 2003, he was sentenced to 51 months in prison on the armed robbery charge and 60 months on the aiding and abetting charge, fined $7,500, ordered to pay $6,488 in restitution, and assessed an additional $200.[9] Springmeier's conviction was affirmed by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.[10] He was imprisoned, and was released from federal prison on March 25, 2011.[11][12]
i wonder if he's motivated by money..
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 13 2012 02:07. Posts 2870
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP. Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
Its in your mind. Think about how many "controlling" aspects you put on yourself and what you allow yourself to believe and experience. Free your mind and the rest will follow.
This thread is a good example. Many people ridicule conspiracy theorists, but if you don't leave a possibility open for them to be right and you to be wrong, you have already limited your own mind and thus your possibilities. I am not saying they are right every time of course, but the key is to keep an open mind.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
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barbieman   Sweden. Jun 13 2012 02:29. Posts 2132
It is very basic, but still very mind fuck to keep viewing things the most logical way possible. Jjust deal with stuff the way you've always beem (talking as if you're me), accepting the most probable answer. Just keep an open an open mind to what seems most plausible and never close our mind to better explanations and you'll be fine.
FFS. I should be spending my time better than trying to articulate my thoughts om LP, watching movies and listening to music when having a drunk night. Oh well, wasn't that bad emotionally so whatever. GN LP.
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP.
Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Come on man...
Maybe I'm just the biggest troll of history of LP
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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 13 2012 03:59. Posts 1779
ok tutz i think you have gone far enough, fooled enough ppl, now its time to admit that this is your prank to LP
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Mariuslol   Norway. Jun 13 2012 04:16. Posts 4742
On June 12 2012 16:41 YouGoTGoT wrote:
1. Michael Jackson was an alien.
2. The Bradley-Pacquiao fight was rigged.
3. Michael Jackson rigged the Bradley-Pacquiao fight, with the help of aliens.
Holy shit! I was thinking the exact same thing, word for word! The fact that we both came to the same conclusion without any contact whatsoever an only mean one thing: Oprah likes it in the ass.
Hmm, I'm not sure, she's gained a lot of weight again, I don't think it's easily doable getting it in her ass. I don't think she cares much for sex, she gets more dopamin out of eating.
D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 04:57. Posts 688
lol ok so far the suggestions are mainly on Michael Jackson being an alien; a Bradley - xxx fight was rigged (never heard of that); lizardman/reptilian matrix/ Oprah takes it up the ass!
Waiting for some more suggestions before creating a seperate thread on the most popular suggestion. Cmon, LP. What was the conspiracy theory that made you think "Why the fuck so many people believe in this enormous bullshit theory?!?!?" - that's the theory I want to defend. Oprah taking it up the ass would be pretty difficult. I would have to ask her to investigate her crimescene and I don't think many people have gone up her loophole. The theory has to be somewhat established in the conspiracy community.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 13 2012 05:08. Posts 8649
Truck-Crash Life
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 06:04. Posts 9634
On June 12 2012 16:56 tutz wrote:
lol I didnt sign up for this.
If a thread is created I will make a comment here and there, but D_Smart_S words are not mine. We have very different minds.
yeah you are not "special " in that certain way :D
On June 12 2012 20:25 Baalim wrote:
Dude you cant even defend the stupid theories you believe in, now you will defend something you dont?
//win
Conspiracy theory -
OP actually has an adequate mind !
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jun 13 2012 06:20. Posts 5647
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP.
Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Come on man...
wait wait
so that is a real quote? he is defending that bolded part?
Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 13 2012 10:12. Posts 1845
On June 13 2012 00:39 uiCk wrote: Fritz Artz Springmeier is an American conspiracy theorist and religious right wing author
On January 31, 2002, Springmeier was indicted in the United States District Court in Portland, Oregon[6] in connection with an armed robbery. On February 12, 2003, he was found guilty of one count of armed bank robbery in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2113(a) and (d) and one count of aiding and abetting in the use of a semi-automatic rifle during the commission of a felony in violation of of 18 U.S.C § 924(c)(1).[7][8] In November 2003, he was sentenced to 51 months in prison on the armed robbery charge and 60 months on the aiding and abetting charge, fined $7,500, ordered to pay $6,488 in restitution, and assessed an additional $200.[9] Springmeier's conviction was affirmed by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.[10] He was imprisoned, and was released from federal prison on March 25, 2011.[11][12]
i wonder if he's motivated by money..
Interesting I was unaware of it but after listening to some recent stuff he said he was imprisoned for allegedly knowing about a robbery. I haven't heard him talk about right wing religious stuff but know he is christian. To me it looks like you take the official stories as absolute gospel while being very critical of theories which do not support your worldview.
I've said it before look at human history tyranny is the norm, did all of this just disappear? or is it just hidden with brainwashing and 'bread and circuses' they are still using entertainment and junk food to keep people happy. One phrase that particularly annoys me is; this is 2012 or whatever year it is.
'None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.'
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP.
Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Come on man...
wait wait
so that is a real quote? he is defending that bolded part?
On June 13 2012 00:39 uiCk wrote: Fritz Artz Springmeier is an American conspiracy theorist and religious right wing author
On January 31, 2002, Springmeier was indicted in the United States District Court in Portland, Oregon[6] in connection with an armed robbery. On February 12, 2003, he was found guilty of one count of armed bank robbery in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2113(a) and (d) and one count of aiding and abetting in the use of a semi-automatic rifle during the commission of a felony in violation of of 18 U.S.C § 924(c)(1).[7][8] In November 2003, he was sentenced to 51 months in prison on the armed robbery charge and 60 months on the aiding and abetting charge, fined $7,500, ordered to pay $6,488 in restitution, and assessed an additional $200.[9] Springmeier's conviction was affirmed by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.[10] He was imprisoned, and was released from federal prison on March 25, 2011.[11][12]
i wonder if he's motivated by money..
Interesting I was unaware of it but after listening to some recent stuff he said he was imprisoned for allegedly knowing about a robbery. I haven't heard him talk about right wing religious stuff but know he is christian. To me it looks like you take the official stories as absolute gospel while being very critical of theories which do not support your worldview.
I've said it before look at human history tyranny is the norm, did all of this just disappear? or is it just hidden with brainwashing and 'bread and circuses' they are still using entertainment and junk food to keep people happy. One phrase that particularly annoys me is; this is 2012 or whatever year it is.
'None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.'
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
To me it seems you trust any person on youtube who looks half serious and never look at background of anything (obviously, first thing i do is do background check of any person who i will absorb opinions from; since the world is filled with tyrannic people, who scheme and opportunists, believing anybody straight out, is fucking stupid.) He could be set up, but i don't care, since he belives in satan and is a religious right wing author. RELIGIOUS RIGHT WING AUTHOR. thats like being a Christian Rock band, biggest scam in the world and obviously the biggest opportunistic "career" one can take, given that they have an insane market share that is as blind to their products as Apple sheep are to apple products.
To me it seems you take any stories as truth first until proven wrong. But lack any motivation to do any research yourself, and like d smart s, want to be spoon-fed information, opinions and arguments.
And lol tyranny, i am lived through historical tyranny and a manipulated revolution, i'm not blind, if anything i am more skeptical then most.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Syntax   United States. Jun 13 2012 13:01. Posts 4415
tutz, you need help if you think reptile people control us. there is absolutely no way in hell you can provide any type of sustainable evidence for that. there just isn't. if there was, than people all around the world, people who are highly respected in their fields like science etc would come out with this theory and attempt to 'prove' it. LOL you think that by watching some youtube videos you've found the truth to life? don't you know that there are a ton of talented video makers out there that love to get in peoples heads just like you. they play on people's fears and present 'evidence' that is ultimately fallacious for whatever reasons. dude, you need help seriously.. read a science book plz.
On June 13 2012 12:01 Syntax wrote:
tutz, you need help if you think reptile people control us. there is absolutely no way in hell you can provide any type of sustainable evidence for that. there just isn't. if there was, than people all around the world, people who are highly respected in their fields like science etc would come out with this theory and attempt to 'prove' it. LOL you think that by watching some youtube videos you've found the truth to life? don't you know that there are a ton of talented video makers out there that love to get in peoples heads just like you. they play on people's fears and present 'evidence' that is ultimately fallacious for whatever reasons. dude, you need help seriously.. read a science book plz.
if you watch any conspiracy videos (and i have seen plenty) they spent most the time trying to convince the viewers that they will be ridiculed because the people who ridicule are scared of the truth and blind and indoctrinated. So from their, the viewers will reinforce the conspiracy theory by being ridiculed: where the thinking process goes something like: "Well, all these people are ridiculing me for believing in this conspiracy, and author of the conspiracy said exactly that, that i will be ridiculed, so the conspiracy is true"
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Syntax   United States. Jun 13 2012 13:47. Posts 4415
absolutely uiCk, me too, when i was younger i saw a good amount of conspiracy videos and my more skeptical friends (usually the smarter ones) would laugh at me. Though i'm not entirely sold that tutz really believes in this stuff. It seems more like another one of his attempts at attention..
wut wut wut
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 13 2012 14:08. Posts 1845
Uick you did a background check on wikipedia and you think that is insightful? I am not going to get drawn into meaningless arguments here but don't make assumptions about me. I know that I shouldn't have made assumptions against you but I'm frustrated by the hypocrisy of what people consider true information.
I did not declare it as absolute truth it is just different information. Right wing religious author? show me the books he has written on it, I know he's religious and that isn't something I hold against people. Here he mentions his side of the story www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5vWze0xhnI at 1 hour 6 minutes. You think he's in it for the money? he mentions in that video that most of his books have been pirated and that we can get them that way, not everyone in this modern world worships the deity of money.
The reason I listen to a lot of information is because I'm playing poker most of the time. I agree that I should read more and I am definitely reading more now than when I wasn't into this stuff at all.
On June 13 2012 12:01 Syntax wrote:
tutz, you need help if you think reptile people control us. there is absolutely no way in hell you can provide any type of sustainable evidence for that. there just isn't. if there was, than people all around the world, people who are highly respected in their fields like science etc would come out with this theory and attempt to 'prove' it. LOL you think that by watching some youtube videos you've found the truth to life? don't you know that there are a ton of talented video makers out there that love to get in peoples heads just like you. they play on people's fears and present 'evidence' that is ultimately fallacious for whatever reasons. dude, you need help seriously.. read a science book plz.
I've talked about this in my blog, but I'm gonna repeat it again here...
the so called evidence for any of this is totally debatable and I do not expect most people and especially the ones with a more scientific approach. one of the things that bother me the most in all this is knowing that people that I have the most respect (like richard dawkins and neil degrasse tyson) probably dont share the same point of view as mine, those guys are my heros. I dont like that you judge me saying that I "watched some youtube videos" and from that I came to this "crazy" conclusion, it was much more than that. I dont want to sound arrogant please but, I think that unless you know what I know (what I think is the truth), the scientific approach to life is the best: demand proof, ask question, understand the reason.
I did my research, looked for the answers of the questions I had (and still have many) and came to my own conclusions. there is only a certain amount of proof that can be provided for the reptilian theory. I cant show you a picture of a reptilian, but I can show you why I think they exist. in the end it is really a personal decision (maybe faith?) to believe it or not. but hey, I totally understand you reaction, I really do. I guess we will find out very soon how wrong or right I am.
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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 14:16. Posts 688
It seems like the reptilian alien theory bothers most people here and so I believe that's the crazy conspiracy theory I will try to present with its strongest arguments. I will try not to be biased and present it neutrally in the upcoming thread (in a day or two maybe).
Btw, Syntax, your argument that "IF the theory that aliens control the Earth is true there would be scientists from all fields going public to prove it" is kind of flawed in my opinion cause I don't think that anyone controlling the world would let the best scientists speak in public about this. I mean, I never heard on TV that my government is bad, not once but all Bulgarians now that they are thiefs and the scientists in Bulgaria are not speaking against them because they are given research sponsorship from the government. Moreover, I believe bribe, threatening and blackmailing goes a long way when you have huge financial resources and power. So yeah, if ANY group controls the world for power and money, they wouldn't let the respected public people to speak against them. They wouldn't care about average Joe's speaking against them but a respected opinion is what they fear because people listen to those people and so they would attempt to stop any such public appearance and if they can't they would either kill/threaten the person to stop/put him in jail or clinic/ or discredit him. And if that happens I doubt that most people would hear about this person because it won't be on any mainstream media or website.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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player999   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 14:19. Posts 7978
On June 12 2012 17:05 tutz wrote:
But hey I liked the idea, I would love to see a good healthy thread about it developing. Without trolls, without bashing and shit, but I guess that would be imposible here on LP.
Anyway. The biggest mindfuck is to get people to realize the matrix we live in, that we are slaves. Just like in The Matrix movie but instead of machine controling us, it is the reptilians. It is amazing how that movie is accurate. What Neo says the end of the movie after the EMP explosion when Neo is making a "call" is perfect with the "SYSTEM FAILURE" in computer screen, express exactly what us humans really are and what we are capable of if we were free.
How can I take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Come on man...
wait wait
so that is a real quote? he is defending that bolded part?
100%
Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol
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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 13 2012 14:56. Posts 1779
so like.... raptor jesus is real after all?
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 13 2012 15:04. Posts 1845
I have not researched the reptilian theory and to just dismiss it without further research would be the height of ignorance. The nature of the theory however is very off putting to most and probably propagated by disinformation agents to derail more pressing matters. I thought it was about the reptillian brain but it seems to be about actual reptiles I am open to theories that there is not only what we can see in the physical world with our 5 senses but to link the reptillian theory to more conventional conspiracy theories seems to me to be almost a self defeating and very challenging argument to make.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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Zep   United States. Jun 13 2012 16:11. Posts 2292
I'm interested in hearing about the reptilian alien theory: You're going to get laughed at, create pointless drama, and kill long-term traffic to this site. It fits well with your attention whore status.
Honestly, I think Technological Singularity would be the best hypothesis to explore. It's not really a conspiracy theory but it would be awesome to have a long, serious conversation that can branch out in many different directions- including conspiracy theories.
Also, great quote DS. I'm honored.
NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future.
funny how the truth causes seemingly rational people to turn hateful toward those who challenge what one believes to be true.
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Raidern   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 16:49. Posts 4243
On June 13 2012 15:28 tutz wrote:
funny how the truth causes seemingly rational people to turn hateful toward those who challenge what one believes to be true.
this quote is not true at all. people have been telling you the truth for countless posts and somehow you remain calm throughout the whole process
People just don't have a lot of patience when someone shows up and says "well this is the truth, sorry I can't sum up my theory in 20 lines here because people will just bash me". If you wanted to you'd probably write a 4,000 word text and post it on your blog with all the logical thinking that led you to your conclusion. You often say that it would be awesome if people just knew what you know (or what you believe to be happening), but it seems you put zero effort into making people aware of all knowledge hidden in youtube videos. With that attitude you can't really expect people to act in a cordial way in a debate. They are trying to debate while you refuse to defend your ideas.
On June 13 2012 15:28 tutz wrote:
funny how the truth causes seemingly rational people to turn hateful toward those who challenge what one believes to be true.
this quote is not true at all. people have been telling you the truth for countless posts and somehow you remain calm throughout the whole process
People just don't have a lot of patience when someone shows up and says "well this is the truth, sorry I can't sum up my theory in 20 lines here because people will just bash me". If you wanted to you'd probably write a 4,000 word text and post it on your blog with all the logical thinking that led you to your conclusion. You often say that it would be awesome if people just knew what you know (or what you believe to be happening), but it seems you put zero effort into making people aware of all knowledge hidden in youtube videos. With that attitude you can't really expect people to act in a cordial way in a debate. They are trying to debate while you refuse to defend your ideas.
As said most these people who believe in conspiracy theories have 0 ability for self research and tend to just copy the arguments and ideas of others. then go into meaningless discussion hoping for others to give them arguments to work against, and adapt their whole "idea" and remove the obvious mistakes. AKA zeitgeist keeps updating it's movies based on the criticism they receive.
Which is what a person does when they have no knowledge of how to do actual research.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I stick to what I said, it is too deep of a theory for me to try to defend in a few lines of even 2 pages really. If did that, lets say, defend my theory in 2 pages, it would certainly discredit it all even more, cause I would not be able to put enough information there in order to make anyone interested in the theory I think. It would only make you guys make fun of me. think about it for a second, think about how crazy this is. you probably already have. so you think there any way this can be explained that easy? it can't and I will say it 1 milion times. at least I dont think it can and if someone presented it to me like that in the first place I dont think I would believe it either.
In order to make a proper presentation on this I would have to built a very big document with several videos in between, so I did what I tought would be the best at first for someone that never heard this stuff: made a VIDEO of myself talking about how much I would like you guys to watch the youtube videos I posted. that a lot right there. I took the time to look for all those videos back, put them in an order that I tought would make more sense to the first time expectator and made a video of myself telling you to watch. I know LP, I knew that by doing that I was destroying any reputation I had, if I had any.
That shows how much I care. I dont see how I can do much more than that so if you are not interested in watching all those videos then just don't. Nobody is forcing you.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 13 2012 17:14. Posts 8649
tutz do you talk with your g/f about these ideas you have? if yes what does she think about them.
On June 13 2012 16:14 bigredhoss wrote:
tutz do you talk with your g/f about these ideas you have? if yes what does she think about them.
yes we do! a lot actualy. she have seem/read almost everything I have, I showed it to her in the most part. she enjoys learning about this different theories, sometimes she even look up some interesting stuff online and tells me about it and we discuss. she lived in india for 2 years, used to be a yoga teacher there besides being a model, she have done vipassana 4 times in her life, anyway she is a really cool/positive mind person, vibrations, power of the mind and toughts, etc. she thinks it is totally posible, but she doesnt have her mind made up for any specific theory of creation, god or anything really. she says there are too many posibilities and we as humans know nothing for certain about this endless universe we live. she says that all bad things that have ever happened in history have happened because one thinks one knows more or is better than other. anyway, this is going too deep.
summing up what she thinks: do good to other people, take all negative things/toughts away from your life, that how she is about everything. she know I'm in this online poker forum trying to do some good but told me that whenever it starts becoming a negative discussion I should stop it and move on. she understands me, and she doesnt think I'm crazy. to be honest, I could change my mind tomorrow about this, really. I'm not locked with any fixed ideas. but as of right now this seems to be very fucking true to me.
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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 18:18. Posts 688
On June 13 2012 16:14 bigredhoss wrote:
tutz do you talk with your g/f about these ideas you have? if yes what does she think about them.
yes we do! a lot actualy. she have seem/read almost everything I have, I showed it to her in the most part. she enjoys learning about this different theories, sometimes she even look up some interesting stuff online and tells me about it and we discuss. she lived in india for 2 years, used to be a yoga teacher there besides being a model, she have done vipassana 4 times in her life, anyway she is a really cool/positive mind person, vibrations, power of the mind and toughts, etc. she thinks it is totally posible, but she doesnt have her mind made up for any specific theory of creation, god or anything really. she says there are too many posibilities and we as humans know nothing for certain about this endless universe we live. she says that all bad things that have ever happened in history have happened because one thinks one knows more or is better than other. anyway, this is going too deep.
summing up what she thinks: do good to other people, take all negative things/toughts away from your life, that how she is about everything. she know I'm in this online poker forum trying to do some good but told me that whenever it starts becoming a negative discussion I should stop it and move on. she understands me, and she doesnt think I'm crazy. to be honest, I could change my mind tomorrow about this, really. I'm not locked with any fixed ideas. but as of right now this seems to be very fucking true to me.
Here is my view: The matrix = Technological singularity = "Oneness" in Indian religion, its the same view presented from a scientific or religious perspective.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 13 2012 20:38. Posts 1845
the word ego isn't meant how it is usually interpreted as selfish etc.
ego
noun, plural e·gos.
1.
the “I” or self of any person; a person as thinking, feeling, and willing, and distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought.