On June 14 2012 09:41 auffenpuffer wrote:
d_smart, what's your opinion on David Icke? Is he a credible theorist, and are his views of reptilians credible? In particular, what is your opinion on his idea that reptilians need to drink blood of blond virgins to keep their powers? Also he claims that the reptilians are even 3 meters talls, yet manage to pretend to be humans, which seems somewhat strange.
For those LPers who are unfamiliar with him, David Icke is best known advocate of the reptilian conspiracy theory, afaik he made the whole thing up actually. Icke used to work for the bbc, untill one day (and this is according to himself) he heard voices in his head telling him that he is Jesus Christ born again. After a talk show where he made his views public he lost his job and reputation, yet for some reasons was not send to hospital in spite of the obvious mental disorder. Luckily he soon found a new way to make a living, namely the reptilian conspiracy. He is particularly popular among neo-nazis, who interpret him as using code to talk about the jewish conspiracy (ie. that when he saying reptilians he means jews).
I think one should be aware of all possibilities and gather enough information to reach logical conclusions. That being said I don't consider the theory EMPTY. It needs consideration and thought.
When I found out about the hundreds of Sumerian tablets telling the human history and how we were created to be a slave race and see their reptilian figures and statues and look around the world today and see how we are a slave race to the system, with hundreds of millions of people dying from thirst, many others from hunger and when I see how bankers and international leaders kill, steal and manipulate humanity I gotta ask myself - should I not consider the possibility that those guys from ancient Sumeria were right? You gotta question everything. Maybe soon we will have more answers. I believe plain refuting, denying and shouting "ban him" is just childish. And you know, at the end of the day - whether you are fucked by an alien or a human being isn't the most important thing. The dick in your ass is!
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
The problem I have with this is: Would a vastly superior intellectual race able to modify our genes very precisely, ever allow us the opportunity to find out something, they did not want us to know? I don't think so.
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David Icke did not "make the whole thing up". The theory has been around since ancient time. It's just that it's been popularized by the global network - internet. David Icke is simply one of the guys to popularize and research it the most. You can find books and research on the same theory before Icke went public with it.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On June 14 2012 10:04 Zorglub wrote:
The problem I have with this is: Would a vastly superior intellectual race able to modify our genes very precisely, ever allow us the opportunity to find out something, they did not want us to know? I don't think so.
We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA. To be superior doesn't having full control of every aspect, especially of natural evolution. If you take a dog and alter it's DNA they would still remain dogs to a huge extent and so if we were advanced humans with 100% activated DNA we would still retain some of that (~3% in our case) so we would still be able to think and reason but consciousness evoution is a slow process. And remember that just as there might be bad Extraterrestrials out there there can also be good ones whose agenda is to help us for some reason... maybe. If we put some tight narrow criteria and try to run the theory through it it would always fail because these same criteria are made too narrow. If we say "okay, out of the 1000 claims of this theory, there is one thing that doesn't really fit my assumption for them (that they would have 100% control over us throughout thousands of years) so that one things brings the whole theory down" that's maybe not the best thought process here. Moreover, the theory suggests that they are very few compared to us and they want to remain in the dark which is logical of course. So that would mean they are not all powerful and everywhere. If you are creating a prison system that has to remain invisible to the slaves, you would have to create the illusion of people having the power of choice. That means that you HAVE TO give them some power so they remain deluded. There are still good people in politics. There are still good guys in the black projects. But they are few. There are guys like Jesse Ventura but how many? Very few... If you are an illusionist and your trick is to hide a car in front of an audience you still have to make it disappear somehow even if it's not real magic. You have to create a believable reality so that the slaves think they have a free choice and freedom. They would never rebel that way.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On June 14 2012 10:04 Zorglub wrote:
The problem I have with this is: Would a vastly superior intellectual race able to modify our genes very precisely, ever allow us the opportunity to find out something, they did not want us to know? I don't think so.
We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA. To be superior doesn't having full control of every aspect, especially of natural evolution. If you take a dog and alter it's DNA they would still remain dogs to a huge extent and so if we were advanced humans with 100% activated DNA we would still retain some of that (~3% in our case) so we would still be able to think and reason but consciousness evoution is a slow process. And remember that just as there might be bad Extraterrestrials out there there can also be good ones whose agenda is to help us for some reason... maybe. If we put some tight narrow criteria and try to run the theory through it it would always fail because these same criteria are made too narrow. If we say "okay, out of the 1000 claims of this theory, there is one thing that doesn't really fit my assumption for them (that they would have 100% control over us throughout thousands of years) so that one things brings the whole theory down" that's maybe not the best thought process here. Moreover, the theory suggests that they are very few compared to us and they want to remain in the dark which is logical of course. So that would mean they are not all powerful and everywhere. If you are creating a prison system that has to remain invisible to the slaves, you would have to create the illusion of people having the power of choice. That means that you HAVE TO give them some power so they remain deluded. There are still good people in politics. There are still good guys in the black projects. But they are few. There are guys like Jesse Ventura but how many? Very few... If you are an illusionist and your trick is to hide a car in front of an audience you still have to make it disappear somehow even if it's not real magic. You have to create a believable reality so that the slaves think they have a free choice and freedom. They would never rebel that way.
Why would you ever give them a choice and freedom at all? Why not just make them mindless numbnuts only able to collect gold day and night? Why give them intelligence? Why give them power? Why do they have to sleep 1/3 of their lives away, it does not sound very efficient to me?
Why are only a very little proportion of us gathering real gold, when that is all they want?
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Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.
And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On June 14 2012 11:31 D_smart_S wrote:
Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.
And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.
"They genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable" So they altered 97% of out DNA but somehow they were unable to remove: Free will, Intelligence and the need for sleep?
And they have been here for thousands of years travelling through galaxies to get here, but they dont have time to create a synthetic robot, so they have to alter monkeys, but they are not able to alter that significant 3% of our genes which enables us to expose their entire scheme?
What kind of atmosphere does their planet have where gold is able to float? Do they breathe Uranium?
And why do they need to alter their own atmosphere when they could just take our planet for themselves?
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA.
What civilization are you comparing us to? While there may actually be other alien civilizations out there you can't point to a planet say the aliens live here and we know X and X about the culture and civilization with definitive proof. Every other human civilization that came before us like the Romans/Mayans we are technologically vastly superior.
Why do you have such a hard time taking things at face value? Your idea's and theories are overly complex and convoluted. I really wish you had to take a basic IQ test or something before being able to access the internet. D_Smart_S I think you are polluting the gene pool of humanity and you should only bred with these reptiles you are slithering pretty hard right now
We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA.
What civilization are you comparing us to? While there may actually be other alien civilizations out there you can't point to a planet say the aliens live here and we know X and X about the culture and civilization with definitive proof. Every other human civilization that came before us like the Romans/Mayans we are technologically vastly superior.
Why do you have such a hard time taking things at face value? Your idea's and theories are overly complex and convoluted. I really wish you had to take a basic IQ test or something before being able to access the internet. D_Smart_S I think you are polluting the gene pool of humanity and you should only bred with these reptiles you are slithering pretty hard right now
He is arguing for the sake of arguing, something a lot of people don't get apparently. It is a very good practise, you should try it once. Argueing a point of view you don't believe yourself, might open your eyes to new ideas or better arguments/ counter arguments and other ways to percieve reality.
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On June 14 2012 11:31 D_smart_S wrote:
Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.
And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.
"They genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable" So they altered 97% of out DNA but somehow they were unable to remove: Free will, Intelligence and the need for sleep?
And they have been here for thousands of years travelling through galaxies to get here, but they dont have time to create a synthetic robot, so they have to alter monkeys, but they are not able to alter that significant 3% of our genes which enables us to expose their entire scheme?
What kind of atmosphere does their planet have where gold is able to float? Do they breathe Uranium?
And why do they need to alter their own atmosphere when they could just take our planet for themselves?
I meant that the theory branches in two directions. The Sumerian Tablets explain that the Annunaki came and altered the genes of a an already existing being. You can read the work of Zecharia Sitchin who was the world's leading expert in Sumerian language. He has written several books on the detailed historic records written in the Sumerian Tablets. There was even a book among the hundreds of tablets that was called The Book of Enki. As much as I remember almost all of the book is missing but you can research it yourself. There are many such 5000 y.o. historic records that need examining so don't ask me about every detail. Not all is known, some tablets have been stolen or destroyed...
So the two branches of the theory is that the Annunaki created us from monkey-like beings so they uplifted our evolution to make us their intelligent human slaves. But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have? They don't want us to evolve so why would they make us not only intelligent but also give us more DNA to evolve further through time when we would be able to break free from them.
The analysis of our DNA shows that the other 97% simply look switched off, like two wires plugged off or something like that. The whole idea of the "Fall of Mankind" is present in almost any ancient and modern culture/religion. We know the story from the Bible that the snake gave Eve the food which fucked us up and we became martyrs and slaves and we shouldn't eat from the tree of knowledge and if we don't do good we will burn in Hell for all eternity and all these fear-based and suppressive mechanisms installed within the global consciousness of mankind. So isn't it possible that there was a race of humans on Earth a looong time ago and these Reptilians came and created all kinds of disasters through the gravitational pull of their planet or some other means. They kill most people and leave some and switch off around 97% of their DNA to make them more controllable in all aspects. They have sex, give offspring that are reptilian-human hybrids and modernday man is created. They begin keeping track of their bloodlines that are the most pure and give them right to rule different places and their power transfers through every other generation. They can simply rewrite most of the history just like today where the winner writes the history. Of course, you can't just change the story a 100% because people would realise it so you do it subtly and so we see today the history of Ancient Sumeria but we can't be sure that it's 100% correct. Maybe the Annunaki didn't want all the truth out there and altered it a bit. You never know. To me, the more probable of the two branches of the Reptilian theory is that they switched off those 97% rather than boosted us from monkeys. So maybe that's the detail they altered in the history. It's pure speculation. I am just presenting the theory and it's differings among theorists. Nobody knows the whole truth, but we can at least try to analyse the ancient past and present and see where it takes us.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
^ So the other threads like the Olympic one and the Chicago one were what then? Why not argue something real like the gold standard vs the dollar or PC vs MAC, where both points have merritts if you want to practice debate skills. Debating that David Icke isnt a complete moron is just stupidity
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palak United States. Jun 14 2012 14:36. Posts 4601
But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have
Well to start with, that's not true. Just because right now only ~3% of our DNA is known to code for proteins doesnt mean the other 97% isnt functional in either unknown ways or in known ways which are just non-coding.
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
On June 14 2012 11:31 D_smart_S wrote:
Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.
And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.
"They genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable" So they altered 97% of out DNA but somehow they were unable to remove: Free will, Intelligence and the need for sleep?
And they have been here for thousands of years travelling through galaxies to get here, but they dont have time to create a synthetic robot, so they have to alter monkeys, but they are not able to alter that significant 3% of our genes which enables us to expose their entire scheme?
What kind of atmosphere does their planet have where gold is able to float? Do they breathe Uranium?
And why do they need to alter their own atmosphere when they could just take our planet for themselves?
I meant that the theory branches in two directions. The Sumerian Tablets explain that the Annunaki came and altered the genes of a an already existing being. You can read the work of Zecharia Sitchin who was the world's leading expert in Sumerian language. He has written several books on the detailed historic records written in the Sumerian Tablets. There was even a book among the hundreds of tablets that was called The Book of Enki. As much as I remember almost all of the book is missing but you can research it yourself. There are many such 5000 y.o. historic records that need examining so don't ask me about every detail. Not all is known, some tablets have been stolen or destroyed...
So the two branches of the theory is that the Annunaki created us from monkey-like beings so they uplifted our evolution to make us their intelligent human slaves. But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have? They don't want us to evolve so why would they make us not only intelligent but also give us more DNA to evolve further through time when we would be able to break free from them.
The analysis of our DNA shows that the other 97% simply look switched off, like two wires plugged off or something like that. The whole idea of the "Fall of Mankind" is present in almost any ancient and modern culture/religion. We know the story from the Bible that the snake gave Eve the food which fucked us up and we became martyrs and slaves and we shouldn't eat from the tree of knowledge and if we don't do good we will burn in Hell for all eternity and all these fear-based and suppressive mechanisms installed within the global consciousness of mankind. So isn't it possible that there was a race of humans on Earth a looong time ago and these Reptilians came and created all kinds of disasters through the gravitational pull of their planet or some other means. They kill most people and leave some and switch off around 97% of their DNA to make them more controllable in all aspects. They have sex, give offspring that are reptilian-human hybrids and modernday man is created. They begin keeping track of their bloodlines that are the most pure and give them right to rule different places and their power transfers through every other generation. They can simply rewrite most of the history just like today where the winner writes the history. Of course, you can't just change the story a 100% because people would realise it so you do it subtly and so we see today the history of Ancient Sumeria but we can't be sure that it's 100% correct. Maybe the Annunaki didn't want all the truth out there and altered it a bit. You never know. To me, the more probable of the two branches of the Reptilian theory is that they switched off those 97% rather than boosted us from monkeys. So maybe that's the detail they altered in the history. It's pure speculation. I am just presenting the theory and it's differings among theorists. Nobody knows the whole truth, but we can at least try to analyse the ancient past and present and see where it takes us.
From this explanation it sounds like it is the females who are the reptiles. With their gravitational pull they are making disasters for the monkeys, who let the snake between their legs guide them. The monkeys are dragged into a dark hole, they switch off their own DNA and end up as couch potatoes, doing nothing but collecting gold for the reptile. The mitochondrial DNA spreads the virus to further generations. Maybe that is why women likes sunbathing so much
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Sure, there is room for speculation. I still want to see the script.
The incidence of coloboma/Cat Eye Syndrome is estimated at around 0.5 to 0.7 per 10,000 births, making it a relatively rare condition. That's a very rare condition. And from the pictures I have seen on Coloboma and other similar illnesses they are more likely to be random and on only of the eyes. The girl in the video looks very perfect which doesn't mean it can't be Coloboma.
The mutations that cause the Cat Eye Syndrome also lead to numerous health problems. That french girl on the video looks pretty normal to me in terms of behaviour. A script would be helpful.
Anal atresia (abnormal obstruction of the anus)
Unilateral or bilateral iris coloboma (absence of tissue from the colored part of the eyes)
Downward-slanting Palpebral fissures (openings between the upper and lower eyelids)
Preauricular pits/tags (small depressions/growths of skin on the outer ears)
Cardiac defects (such as TAPVR)
Kidney problems (missing, extra, or underdeveloped kidneys)
Short stature
Scoliosis/Skeletal problems
Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation.
Micrognathia (smaller jaw)
Hernias
Cleft palate
Rarer malformations can affect almost any organ
Note this:
Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation.
So if a proponent of the Reptilian theory shows you many cases of such possible shapeshift/hologram failiure among the top officials then does it mean they all have the Cat Eye Syndrome and most of them are mildly retarded or have kidney failiures and other severe health problems? As the thread develops I will post more and more of the videos that are more arguable.
"Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation."
Even this fits perfectly with the female explanation
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