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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 18:13. Posts 688

As I suggested in my blog, I will try to present one conspiracy theory that you’ve always wanted put under scrutiny and give its strongest arguments. Most of the suggestions were about aliens/MJ being an alien/lizard-aliens/reptilian matrix and so the conspiracy theory that is connected to this the most is the Reptilian Conspiracy Theory. If you are uninterested in this and do not want to spend your time reading it, please exit the thread now. This thread will take up no more than an inch by half an inch virtual space in the General Section of this forum so I believe those of you who are uninterested in discussing it will have an easy time skipping this virtual space designated for discussing the topic itself.

Now that all the uninterested parties are out of the thread, I can begin presenting the strongest arguments for this wild theory.

Here is the theory without giving my personal opinion in it.

This conspiracy theory suggests that there is a highly intelligent extraterrestrial humanoid Reptilian race walking on two feet like me and you. The theory suggests that this race controls our planet and is responsible for most of the famine, corruption, wars and almost every major evil we see today.



Look around. Only on this planet we have hundreds of thousands of different lifeforms in all kinds of shape – we have insects who spit poison, others who look like leafs in order to blend with the background. We have all types of plants – from poisonous to psychoactive, from plants eating insects to healing herbs… We have all kinds of animals – mammalian, reptilian, flying, swimming big, fat, small, skinny, funny looking, terrifying, poisonous and much more. Even the humanoid beings every one of us is familiar with range from midgets to Asians with strange eyes to black people with huge dicks or simply white folks with tremendous difference in facial features. There is no reason to close our minds to the possibility that somewhere among the TRILLION of stars and planets there might be a humanoid race that evolved into a Reptilian form rather than mammalian like. In 13 billion years of evolution, the Universe sure has to offer more than what we are familiar with from our 20-30 years of life experience and memory. Last time I checked, most people believed people evolved from monkeys in several thousand years so what makes it impossible for let’s say one of the many Dinosaur species to have evolved like monkeys into highly intelligent beings after MANY MILLIONS of years rather than a few thousand years as mainstream science suggests about the monkeys? It certainly is a possibility worth looking into. It’s not that the Reptilian theory says they evolved from dinosaurs, no. It’s just one of the possibilities and it’s a good example to give people perspective when thinking about the mechanisms of evolution.

The Reptilian Conspiracy Theory suggests that the Reptilian humanoids came to Earth in the ancient past and enslaved humanity.

The Sumerian Tablets dated over 5000 years ago found in modern day Iraq talk about the Annunaki (Those who from heaven came to Earth) and created Mankind in their image (sounds familiar?) to be a slave race and mine gold for them. They needed the gold for their planet Nibiru from which they came to Earth because they destroyed a big part of the ozone layer and had no protection from sun radiation. That’s why they needed pulverized gold to be put in their atmosphere and deflect this radiation. That whole thing was written on the tablets. It seems highly unlikely that the great Sumerian Civilization that had the first known written language and mathematical knowledge just spent their days recording fiction stories developing complex clay tablets after the hard days of hunting for food and doing work. It is much more likely that they recorded their history and the biggest events of their generation only to be remembered for the next generations. It is also very unlikely that ancient people like the Sumerians would have the knowledge of gold’s reflecting properties. Today, we know through scientific experimentation that gold is the best substance to reflect sun radiation. We put golden shields on space astronauts’ head armor (couldn’t find the right word lol) so they can look through gold and not have their brains cooked in space.



Some experts suggest that the Annunaki are in fact the Reptilians and they created modernday man through the genetic manipulation of an already existing creature. In the ancient Hebrew Bible (the Original), the text talks about Elochim, which means Gods (plural), creating us by their image. This was changed in the modernday Bible to “God” in order to fit the Christian Religion frame they put to suppress knowledge of the past. Every ancient civilization or culture has similar legends. The oldest worship is that of the Serpent! This is very important. China, Japan and many other oriental places – worship of the Dragon. Egypt – snake Gods; Africa – snake Gods/ Serpent worship; Hopi Indians – snake Gods;


Is it possible that at some point in time this Serpent/Snake/Reptilian race came to Earth and through genetic engineering (we already do today) changed the DNA of a certain monkey-like or human-like being and thus created modernday man as many ancient cultures suggest?



The legends say that this race of advanced beings can shapeshift – change their appearance. The African legend says that this Serpent race does not want to be known, they like to remain in the dark, pulling the strings from behind the scenes. Both in the African legends and in the Sumerian Tablets is talked about two brothers who lead their entire race and they have scaly/fish-like skin and are associated with water and one of the brothers, being the lead scientist, created modernday man. The similarities between the legends of these two totally unconnected cultures are astonishing. Moreover, you can find many similar statues or figures from Africa and Sumeria.




The theory suggests that this Reptilian race started having sex with the people on Earth that they created because they were beautiful and the resulting offspring were people with mixed Reptilian and Human genes and they were the ones who were given the rights to rule this planet and drive the Reptilian Agenda. The proponents of this conspiracy theory say that since that time up until today the rulling Elite has always been descendants of those initial bloodlines, resulting from the Reptilian-Human offspring.

We have all heard about the aristocratic blue bloodlines. They are all thought of as descendants of that mixed offspring and among the experts they are known as the 13 Bloodlines. We all know that the monarchies always transfer power to their offspring so isn’t it possible that this transfer of power started in ancient time and haven’t stopped until today? We can see today that many countries have dragon or snake symbols in their flags like Wales, Bhutan, Spain and many others. Could they be a referrence to the worship of the most sacred and beloved - their ancestors?







Interestingly enough, Berlusconi has this cool snake-shaped part of his garden:



You can also see the Snake symbol in the Pharmaceutical logos because Big Pharma plays a big part in their agenda. In many other logos and brands the dragon-snake symbol can be found like in Alfa Romeo for example.

This is the logo of the World Health Organization:



Alfa Romeo:



Here are some reptilian/snake/dragon statues representing the Reptilian Race:


Rome, Italy


Sumerian Statue, 4000BC

Other Sumerian figures:


Vatican:


London Gates:



The Reptilian Conspiracy theory states that since these 13 bloodlines are a huge minority compared to humans, they do everything in their power to remain in the dark. One of the ways that they are said to do this is by switching DNA sequences. As I already said, these descendants are believed to have both Reptilian and Human DNA and by switching DNA sequences they are said change “physical” form. Remember that your body is merely a combination of atoms and other particles in a certain order designed by the DNA. If you change the DNA (the code/input), you change the physical hologram that your body is (the result/the output). We already know substances that change shape according to sound or to magnetic influence so maybe such a shapeshift is possible too. It is said that in order for the Reptilians to keep their human form they need to have an abundance of human DNA. This happens mainly by drinking human blood. We all know the stories of the aristocratic vampires living in castles, controlling the people and killing them/drinking their blood like Dracula. Maybe the legends of the vampires are in fact talking about Reptilians.

According to some conspiracy theorists, the Reptilians cannot only shapeshift but also have developed holographic technology that can mask their Reptilian features if they need/want to. Some theorists even go as far as saying that the Reptilians have created synthetic humanoid robots looking just like you and me that can experience certain technological breakdown which can expose them. A lot of speculation is going on and I guess it’s normal considering the wild topic.

Interestingly enough, human embryos have reptilian features in the early stages of development in our bodies. If Reptilians have created us by their own image then this might be a clue to this. Ernst Haeckel theorized that the development of advanced species passes through stages represented by adult organisms of more primitive species.[7] Otherwise put, each successive stage in the development of an individual represents one of the adult forms that appeared in its evolutionary history. For example, Haeckel proposed that the pharyngeal slits of the pharyngeal arches in the neck of the human embryo resembled gill slits of fish, thus representing an adult "fishlike" developmental stage as well as signifying a fishlike ancestor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory

A scientist of great respect like Carl Sagan has written books on the Reptilian connection so to speak.



This is the shortest version I could come up with that explains in somewhat simple terms the Reptilian Conspiracy Theory. If you don't like the theory, please take your hatred towards the theory, not me.

Now, the question all of you are asking right now – is there video proof of a reptilian shapeshift or breakdown taking place? I can’t answer that but can only present the strongest arguments for such events and let you decide. After all, we are living in the video-age, cameras everywhere. If there was ever a time in history that someone can record a possible reptilian shapeshift and present it to others it’s today.

The Reptilian conspiracy theory suggests that most of the Reptilians and/or possible Reptilian humanoid robotoids (or something along those lines) are put in top and other key positions in order to control the Reptilian Agenda. Many speculate that among them are some of the Presidents, senators, officials, mayors, actors, singers, news anchors and TV show hosts.

I have compiled a series of videos that I think are the strongest possible video arguments for this theory. I will post them for you to decide for yourself. I will post the videos one by one and give some time for each video to be analysed and discussed in this thread. The most common problem this alleged Reptilians have is keeping their eyes and teeth human. Often, the eyes are said to turn into cat-eyes (slits) and the teeth – into sharp crocodile teeth. That’s why it is believed by some that they use holographic technology to mask these shapeshifting bugs that are not in their full control.

Most Reptilians are said to be in key positions as already said but some are said to live normal lives. The fist video shows a french girl in a TV show and the host and audience are astonished at her eyes. If someone knows French, it would be nice to see a translation. Here is the video:











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This is the documentary section:





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Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 15/06/2012 17:44

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 18:27. Posts 2140

oh no you didnt...


tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 18:30. Posts 2140

havent read this yet, but just wanna say this are not my words.

 Last edit: 13/06/2012 18:41

uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 18:35. Posts 3521


  On June 13 2012 17:13 D_smart_S wrote:




Look around. Only on this planet we have hundreds of thousands of different lifeforms in all kinds of shape – we have insects who spit poison, others who look like leafs in order to blend with the background. We have all types of plants – from poisonous to psychoactive, from plants eating insects to healing herbs… We have all kinds of animals – mammalian, reptilian, flying, swimming big, fat, small, skinny, funny looking, terrifying, poisonous and much more. Even the humanoid beings every one of us is familiar with range from midgets to Asians with strange eyes to black people with huge dicks or simply white folks with tremendous difference in facial features. There is no reason to close our minds to the possibility that somewhere among the TRILLION of stars and planets there might be a humanoid race that evolved into a Reptilian form rather than mammalian like. In 13 billion years of evolution, the Universe sure has to offer more than what we are familiar with from our 20-30 years of life experience and memory. Last time I checked, most people believed people evolved from monkeys in several thousand years so what makes it impossible for let’s say one of the many Dinosaur species to have evolved like monkeys into highly intelligent beings after MANY MILLIONS of years rather than a few thousand years as mainstream science suggests about the monkeys? It certainly is a possibility worth looking into. It’s not that the Reptilian theory says they evolved from dinosaurs, no. It’s just one of the possibilities and it’s a good example to give people perspective when thinking about the mechanisms of evolution.







Point out that this is the only part of your post that contains some kind of argumentation, where the rest is just different myths/folklore/ancient cultures that have been passed on word to mouth, paintings and sculptures and only high top society, until the print press, were able to transcend those folklore from generation to generation, where the differences in the stories/culture from society to society differences itself by not having a direct flow of information (think of it as the broken telephone).
As much as reptiles (mostly snakes and dragons, which is folklore for "giant" reptiles, more then a human/reptile race) are represented in ancient/modern civilizations, so is the bear, and the lion for example. I think it has more to do with the fact that all these animals have one thing in common: they are deadly to humans, especially in ancient times.

Wanted to clear out that all other "dominant" animals are as present through history as symbols as much as snakes and dragons. Misleading information is a conspiracy theorists best tool.


It has been speculated that accounts of spitting cobras may be the origin of the myths of fire-breathing dragons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon
Cool read, especially the "Comparative mythology" section.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 13/06/2012 18:39

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 18:38. Posts 2140

The Reptilian Theory goes much deeper than this. This is just the tip of the iceberg...


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 18:41. Posts 3521

if your not going to talk about it, then shut it, especially after the complaining about being trolled for your (nonexistent) ideas.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

SleepyHead   . Jun 13 2012 18:45. Posts 880

Two questions:

1. Are the reptillians and the Illuminati related?

2. When they were creating people, why did they give black people huge dicks?

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 18:45. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 17:41 uiCk wrote:
if your not going to talk about it, then shut it, especially after the complaining about being trolled for your (nonexistent) ideas.



No thank you. I will say whatever I want just as much as I want as long as I'm not insulting anybody. You should do the same. Peace.


CrownRoyal   United States. Jun 13 2012 18:46. Posts 11386

i love reptiles

WHAT IS THIS 

palak   United States. Jun 13 2012 18:52. Posts 4601


  On June 13 2012 13:09 tutz wrote:
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I guess we will find out very soon how wrong or right I am.


So ur theory contains a testable hypothesis and can be falsified? What is the hypothesis?

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tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:01. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 17:52 palak wrote:
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So ur theory contains a testable hypothesis and can be falsified? What is the hypothesis?



Well, a lot of the evidence I have come across to the Reptilians Theory has everything to do with the Illuminati and One World Order, it is all connected. Since there is also a lot of evidence (or clues if you wanna call it like that) that suggests something major will happen in the London Olympic Games 2012 I have to imply that if nothing happens, all the evidence that I have seen is bullshit, therefor I have no reason to believe the rest of the theory, since most of it is the same "kind" of evidence and the rest wont be enough to still convince me. In conclusion: after the London Games 2012 I will either be 100% absolutely sure about this or I just wont believe it anymore.

 Last edit: 13/06/2012 19:07

CrownRoyal   United States. Jun 13 2012 19:03. Posts 11386

i bet jesus was a lounge lizard.

WHAT IS THIS 

taco   Iceland. Jun 13 2012 19:03. Posts 1793

BAN. BAN. BAN.

I can not be the only person sick of this shit. This shit repels people from joining this board and/or becoming active, contributing participants in discussions.

BAN. THAT. DUDE.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:08. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 18:03 taco wrote:
BAN. BAN. BAN.

I can not be the only person sick of this shit. This shit repels people from joining this board and/or becoming active, contributing participants in discussions.

BAN. THAT. DUDE.



Dont over react. This thread is doing no harm to LP. Chill dude.


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 19:17. Posts 688


  On June 13 2012 18:01 tutz wrote:
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Well, a lot of the evidence I have come across to the Reptilians Theory has everything to do with the Illuminati and One World Order, it is all connected. Since there is also a lot of evidence (or clues if you wanna call it like that) that suggests something major will happen in the London Olympic Games 2012 I have to imply that if nothing happens, all the evidence that I have seen is bullshit, therefor I have no reason to believe the rest of the theory, since most of it is the same "kind" of evidence and the rest wont be enough to still convince me. In conclusion: after the London Games 2012 I will either be 100% absolutely sure about this or I just wont believe it anymore.



yin & yang . There are good powers that can prevent something bad happening on or around the Olympics. There is this Illuminati Mass Arrest theory lurking around that states how they will all be arrested soon by the good guys. I am kind of skeptical but keep an open-mind and I guess we will soon know a lot more.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

taco   Iceland. Jun 13 2012 19:18. Posts 1793


  On June 13 2012 18:08 tutz wrote:
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Dont over react. This thread is doing no harm to LP. Chill dude.


Having these retarded threads that make us all look like absolute fucking morons that give an audience to that absolute fucking retard
isn't harmful to LP? Then how was that Breivik joke?

His retarded retard threads are at the top of 'General', our most used discussion board, 85% of the time.

 Last edit: 13/06/2012 19:18

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2012 19:21. Posts 688


  On June 13 2012 18:18 taco wrote:
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His retarded retard threads are at the top of 'General', our most used discussion board, 85% of the time.



So you think bumping it with your post helps it drop down in the "General"? Or you think it helps the discussion?

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

SleepyHead   . Jun 13 2012 19:22. Posts 880

They are always at the top of the General forum because they are popular and have many posts from people (like you)

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:23. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 18:18 taco wrote:
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Having these retarded threads that make us all look like absolute fucking morons that give an audience to that absolute fucking retard
isn't harmful to LP? Then how was that Breivik joke?




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His retarded retard threads are at the top of 'General', our most used discussion board, 85% of the time.



Nobody is being forced to participate.


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:32. Posts 5230

is that what LP has become lol sigh


taco   Iceland. Jun 13 2012 19:35. Posts 1793


  On June 13 2012 18:23 tutz wrote:
Nobody is being forced to participate.



You're seemingly forced to miss the point.

It's not about anyone being forced to participate - it's about the light that these absolutely fucking ridiculous (and if you can't see that they are, you need help)
threads shine on us as a forum.

You may not care about forums you use decaying and dying but I do.

Also: Get AdBlock.


palak   United States. Jun 13 2012 19:39. Posts 4601


  On June 13 2012 18:01 tutz wrote:
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Well, a lot of the evidence I have come across to the Reptilians Theory has everything to do with the Illuminati and One World Order, it is all connected. Since there is also a lot of evidence (or clues if you wanna call it like that) that suggests something major will happen in the London Olympic Games 2012 I have to imply that if nothing happens, all the evidence that I have seen is bullshit, therefor I have no reason to believe the rest of the theory, since most of it is the same "kind" of evidence and the rest wont be enough to still convince me. In conclusion: after the London Games 2012 I will either be 100% absolutely sure about this or I just wont believe it anymore.



Define "something major"

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:41. Posts 2140

Bomb attack (something that would kill thousands at least) or a "fake" Alien Attack


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 19:48. Posts 3521

so if any type of attack is done, it is 100% Illuminati related without any details or info on the attack (presupposing that the attack will kill substantial amount of people to make it important) ?

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 13/06/2012 19:50

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:52. Posts 2140


 Last edit: 13/06/2012 19:53

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 19:54. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 18:48 uiCk wrote:
so if any type of attack is done, it is 100% Illuminati related without any details or info on the attack (presupposing that the attack will kill substantial amount of people to make it important) ?



yes.


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 19:55. Posts 3521

lol that video makes it look like (at least in the first 10 sec) it is a actual BBC report.

they have "ben ando reporting", right at the begining, making you think the voice is from ben ando, from bbc, then the robot voice says a bunch of stuff making it look like that person talking is saying all the things the robot voice is saying. smart.

not to mention the still image is of a army dude talking, and caption of :FALSE FLAG....

stop watching after 20 sec, could probably find more of these.

You want subliminal messages? lol

  On June 13 2012 18:52 tutz wrote:


I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 13/06/2012 20:02

uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 19:57. Posts 3521


  On June 13 2012 18:54 tutz wrote:
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yes.

so what you are saying is that there is no possible way to attack the london games unless you are Illuminati motivated?

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 20:03. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 18:57 uiCk wrote:
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so what you are saying is that there is no possible way to attack the london games unless you are Illuminati motivated?



of course it is posible that someone else other than the illuminati attacks the games, but I wont believe it is someone else or whoever the media blames it for, I will believe it is the illuminati.


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 20:05. Posts 3521


  On June 13 2012 19:03 tutz wrote:
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of course it is posible that someone else other than the illuminati attacks the games, but I wont believe it is someone else or whoever the media blames it for, I will believe it is the illuminati.


so possibility of an attack motivated by the Illuminati is less then 100%, meaning you believe in things/events that are not 100%.

check mate?

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 20:08. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 19:05 uiCk wrote:
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so possibility of an attack motivated by the Illuminati is less then 100%, meaning you believe in things/events that are not 100%.

check mate?



yeah... so? its a theory, I believe in that theory. problem?


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 20:12. Posts 3521


  On June 13 2012 19:08 tutz wrote:
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yeah... so? its a theory, I believe in that theory. problem?


problem is that if any event happens, no matter what, your belief prior of the situation is the only proof you need for you to be absolutely sure of the event. Thats been the main problem with religion indoctrinating and enslaving the world for millenia. (ex: God exists, so any event is caused by god)

That and realization that belief trumps logic for some (if not most) people. that's my problem.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 13/06/2012 20:14

waga   United Kingdom. Jun 13 2012 20:14. Posts 2375

Just let those stupid thread die by itself for fuck sake.


uiCk   Canada. Jun 13 2012 20:15. Posts 3521

yea sorry, done here, blame boredom, but time for greater good and ignore time. Sry LP :/

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 13 2012 20:19. Posts 2140


  On June 13 2012 19:12 uiCk wrote:
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problem is that if any event happens, no matter what, your belief prior of the situation is the only proof you need for you to be absolutely sure of the event. Thats been the main problem with religion indoctrinating and enslaving the world for millenia.

That and realization that belief trumps logic for some (if not most) people. that's my problem.



well, I'm not a religious person. my belief in this case is based on some evidence, BUT I understand if one says my evidence is poor or not enough. You can say I made a leap of faith to fill where the evidence could not. I dont feel like that, but I accept that you think that. And my belief is not doing harm to anyone, like religion does in many cases. If anything I'm trying help others.

 Last edit: 13/06/2012 20:20

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 13 2012 20:58. Posts 2870


  On June 13 2012 19:05 uiCk wrote:
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so possibility of an attack motivated by the Illuminati is less then 100%, meaning you believe in things/events that are not 100%.

check mate?



What is 100% certain? Nothing. Everything has a probability, the more evidence pointing in that direction, the higher the probability of its truth. That is the way science works. You examine a theory, looking for clues to its truth or non truth value, and you stick with that theory until a more likely explanation comes up or it is completely falsified.

Doing it this way will lead you closer and closer to "the truth" probably without ever getting there with 100% certainty, but at least you are closer.

Flat earth -> Earth centric -> Solar centric theory etc. What is accepted as "the truth" has been revised many times throughout human history, in fact it is possible for "the truth" to shift over time, so what is the truth today, may not be it tomorrow.

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left 

Zep   United States. Jun 13 2012 21:20. Posts 2292


  On June 13 2012 19:19 tutz wrote: And my belief is not doing harm to anyone, like religion does in many cases. If anything I'm trying help others.


Phail.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Zep   United States. Jun 13 2012 21:25. Posts 2292


  On June 13 2012 18:54 tutz wrote:
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yes.

I'm assuming tutz means any type of grand scale attack such as a dirty bomb going off...

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Syntax   United States. Jun 13 2012 21:27. Posts 4415

Sigh... Ban imo.

wut wut wut 

player999   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 00:28. Posts 7978


  On June 13 2012 18:32 MiPwnYa wrote:
is that what LP has become lol sigh



this

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player999   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 00:33. Posts 7978


  On June 13 2012 18:01 tutz wrote:
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Well, a lot of the evidence I have come across to the Reptilians Theory has everything to do with the Illuminati and One World Order, it is all connected. Since there is also a lot of evidence (or clues if you wanna call it like that) that suggests something major will happen in the London Olympic Games 2012 I have to imply that if nothing happens, all the evidence that I have seen is bullshit, therefor I have no reason to believe the rest of the theory, since most of it is the same "kind" of evidence and the rest wont be enough to still convince me. In conclusion: after the London Games 2012 I will either be 100% absolutely sure about this or I just wont believe it anymore.



no, this probably wont happen. thats what the people who believe in the end of the world say, but then the world doesnt end (like year 2000, later this year, and all the other times), and the ppl that said it would come up with an excuse, a new date, and the dummies keep believing

you will just read up the excuses they come up with and keep believing

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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 01:09. Posts 2870

The future is uncertain and the end is always near - Jim Morrison

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left 

tapatapaz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 01:58. Posts 1279

my god, i have all my life stood up to defend people and their freedom of speech in online forums, but seeing all this shit _constantly_ piling up is way way too much.. and we are all to blame. after this post, i wont try to 'help' (i consider myself to be helping, some people may disagree) anymore so as not to fuel the fire




thats it, you got me. i am a reptile. ive been trying to come out for a long time but never had the courage nor the chance.. but this post got to me. as with all the other reptiles that ive known that had the eggs to speak the truth, i will soon probably be shipped back to Nibiru to be put in DarkJail, where you dont get no sunlight for a year and 100% of the inmates die.. been a fun stay though. oh, you probably want to ask me a lot of secrets about Earth and a who-is-who in the Reptillian Human world, so here it goes: a famous poster in this site is of the Netrilis lineage and they are OMG GOTTA GO THEYVE ARRIVED, FASTER THAN I THOUGHT, CHEERS GUYS BEEN FUN LOVED HUMAN PUSSY MY PS ACCOUNT HAS 3 MILLION DOLLARS THE USERNAME IS ToRaptors AND THE PASSWORD IS

And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal 

Royal_Rumble   Germany. Jun 14 2012 02:01. Posts 1760

Is this a huge level or trolling? ... I don't know, if this kind of stuff is as common in the general population as it is on LP.net, but I have the feeling that many poker players have lost the touch to reality. Maybe this is a underestimated side-effect of having an income by playing cards instead of having a real job with real world problems.
Just look around here, there are threads claiming we all live in the Matrix and it's all a huge conspiracy (tutz), we are ruled by reptilies (... no words, sorry), and other conspiracy stuff.

Some people really need a reality check.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned. Last edit: 14/06/2012 02:03

tapatapaz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 02:04. Posts 1279

ha. i was leveling you guys. there are no reptilians out there. just sit tight and keep to talking poker. have a nice day.

And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal 

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 02:13. Posts 2870

Most of us are probably ruled by the reptilian brain, the one that wants sex at any cost

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left 

player999   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 02:23. Posts 7978


  On June 14 2012 01:04 tapatapaz wrote:
ha. i was leveling you guys. there are no reptilians out there. just sit tight and keep to talking poker. have a nice day.



you're just saying that now to not blow your cover...

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

player999   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 02:25. Posts 7978


  On June 14 2012 01:01 Royal_Rumble wrote:
Is this a huge level or trolling? ... I don't know, if this kind of stuff is as common in the general population as it is on LP.net, but I have the feeling that many poker players have lost the touch to reality. Maybe this is a underestimated side-effect of having an income by playing cards instead of having a real job with real world problems.
Just look around here, there are threads claiming we all live in the Matrix and it's all a huge conspiracy (tutz), we are ruled by reptilies (... no words, sorry), and other conspiracy stuff.

Some people really need a reality check.



actually this is probably more frequent in the "regular population" than you would think, at least imo

if there is something that I've learned in my life is that people, in general, are very very very stupid

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

c4rnage   . Jun 14 2012 03:02. Posts 409



there is a snake being eated in Mexico flag, the theory is that mexicans are descendants from some badass eaglelike alien race that came to earth to save us from the reptillians


tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 03:21. Posts 2140

guys you talk to me like I didnt know how crazy this is lol I knwo guys, I know. the fact that you wont even consider this as a posibility for a second just show how closed your mind is. like morpheus said: "most people are not ready for the thruth". our mind is too deep in the matrix. try to free it for a bit, get rid of all fixed ideas that you have. some ppl here get pumped with the fact that the majority agrees with then, so they must be right, and they feel the urge to say how crazy and I'm how right they are.

"Oh I've always stood up for freedom of speech, but this is too much no no no no" . tell me about how much you have fought for our freedom of speech
"You need a reality check" Or do you?
"This is a huge troll". Or is it?

The truth...
"First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer

 Last edit: 14/06/2012 03:31

spugru   Finland. Jun 14 2012 04:06. Posts 187

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing tutz the world is run by reptilians who need gold for planet Nibiru.

Keep on puffin da erb.

play your position small soldier 

Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 04:40. Posts 20992


  On June 14 2012 02:21 tutz wrote:
guys you talk to me like I didnt know how crazy this is lol I knwo guys, I know. the fact that you wont even consider this as a posibility for a second just show how closed your mind is. like morpheus said: "most people are not ready for the thruth". our mind is too deep in the matrix. try to free it for a bit, get rid of all fixed ideas that you have. some ppl here get pumped with the fact that the majority agrees with then, so they must be right, and they feel the urge to say how crazy and I'm how right they are.

"Oh I've always stood up for freedom of speech, but this is too much no no no no" . tell me about how much you have fought for our freedom of speech
"You need a reality check" Or do you?
"This is a huge troll". Or is it?

The truth...
"First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer



Conspiracy theorists love quoting Schopenhauer, what they don't like is actually reading his works. If there is one person who would have died laughing at all of this it is him.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jun 14 2012 05:15. Posts 8918

I like the part where you say you wont give your opinion on this and then proceed to give, what I assume given the lack of quote marks or credit to another source, your opinions.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 05:18. Posts 2140

AMAZING how human bahavior is. Most of the posts here are you guys trying to tell me in some way that you are better than me. All you are trying to do is to boost your ego and put me down:

"You don't know what you are talking about."
"Read this, you are looking in the wrong place"
"You are just a stupid model"

The only guy that had a mature approach about this with me was Mariuslol. One guy here even sent me a PM telling me to read stuff that I'm pretty sure he never read himself, but it will:
1. Make him feel better
2. Imply that he is smarter than me cause he have read the content and I haven't (but I'm pretty sure he haven't either)
3. Try to put me down.

Guys, you can't put me down. Open you minds. Of course I might be wrong, sure. You dont need to give me credit for anything, but why the arrogance? Why the hypocrisy? Look at yourself. Are you proud of yourself? How many things you want to change in your life but you haven't? How judgemental are you about others? Are you being true to yourself? How do you treat you parents/friends? What are you goals in life? Why do you want so much to feel superior than? Where is the love? Answer those questions to yourself. DONT judge me. Understand.
You are not better than me.


dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 14 2012 05:43. Posts 1779

OPEN UP YOUR MIIIIINDS

this shit is fucking retarded

what the fuck


cariadon   Estonia. Jun 14 2012 05:47. Posts 4019

Titz and D_umbas_s for featured blog and a special tin foiled hat icon.

Click here for evidence !


Funktion   Australia. Jun 14 2012 05:55. Posts 1638

I saw a couple of TV documentaries on this called "V" (80's and 09). You can take this theory to the bank.


Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 06:10. Posts 20992

I went to truthism.com to look at their arguments and the only "proof" they have to offer is this video of a Reptilian:



Yeah, that's their only video on the channel. Though they have other ones on other channels of the same woman and they keep obsessing over her blinks, even though there is nothing particular on the others. They follow it up on the site with:

"Right now, I bet you're like, "Oh my God, oh my God! They're real, they're real!" Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. What, did you actually think that humans were the only intelligent beings in the universe? Moreover, who the fuck do you think created humanity in the first place? "An intangible god?" No. "Evolution?" Uh, no. "Aliens?" Duh."

I'm sold.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 14/06/2012 06:34

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 06:17. Posts 688



Mike Tyson calls Don King a reptilian motherfucker after 2:00.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 14/06/2012 06:21

Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 06:28. Posts 20992

I have a couple very simple questions for you now d_smart_s. Why did the Reptilians create us as we are? That is, with subjective experience. Why couldn't they make simple robots to work for them? Why did they need to create self-aware beings to use as slaves? If you want something efficient, why create a human being instead of a real machine? You also run the risk that the human being awakens to the truth and can no longer be used as a tool. I mean, according to this site (truthism.com), those people who wrote it and those who believe it are no longer mind-controlled. Only those who deny "the truth" are weak-minded tools being used by the Reptilians. Did they undo their conditioning or 'programming' by simply acknowledging their true origins? How does that work? It's just a different belief after all. And again, why would a super-intelligent alien race who wants efficiency and to never be found risk 1) to be found and 2) that their creation ends up not being efficient as it could be with machines? Is it so that they could have fun spying on us while we talk about them in disbelief? It seems more likely that the one alien who created us was intoxicated as fuck... but there may be some conspiracy theorists who have arrived at that hypothesis already.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 14/06/2012 06:33

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 06:38. Posts 9634

Considering most people want OP banned since about the point he made his 1st post why are we obliged to bear with his idiotism ? If this is going to become a forum where any clown could spam with pointless threads just say so ill start opening threads with pictures of penguins with proof of them being the supreme mind ...

tutz you say to open our mind ? How do you define that exactly ? Should I open my mind to any world-end conspiracy theory ? Should I open my mind to any religion out there ? I m fine with tolerating people and beliefs up to a certain point, any other man that wanted a ban for OP is fine with that, however he's crossed the line long time ago. His threads are retarded, I doubt he himself believes any of that. The main idea of this thread is to boost his ego ... " give me any conspiracy theory and I will defend it " as if we are some kind of total idiots and he can convince us of anything he wants, as if we r some kind of puppets. This is beyond stupid and insulting. So you and OP could take your open minds and stick em at a certain place. Open mind and tolerance go hand in hand however when one of them depleted the other is drained as well



And wow if Mike Tyson is your argument .... a man whos job is to get constantly hit in the head for years ... yap anything he says would be damn legit

 Last edit: 14/06/2012 06:47

Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 06:45. Posts 20992


  On June 14 2012 05:17 D_smart_S wrote:


Mike Tyson calls Don King a reptilian motherfucker after 2:00.



No, you are being imprecise. He calls him a wretched SLIMY reptilian motherfucker.

In your op you have stated and I quote: "This conspiracy theory suggests that there is a highly intelligent extraterrestrial humanoid Reptilian race walking on two feet like me and you."

There is no mention of them being SLIMY. They walk on two feet like you and me, why would they be slimy? Are you slimy? Unless they walk on two feet in water? Is that your argument?

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 06:48. Posts 20992

Ok I think I get it now. They are slimy because they always get drunk and get that shit all over them and that's why they fucked up so much creating us and gave us subjective experience that could free us from their grasp. I've pieced it all together.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 06:56. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 05:28 Loco wrote:
I have a couple very simple questions for you now d_smart_s. Why did the Reptilians create us as we are? That is, with subjective experience. Why couldn't they make simple robots to work for them? Why did they need to create self-aware beings to use as slaves? If you want something efficient, why create a human being instead of a real machine? You also run the risk that the human being awakens to the truth and can no longer be used as a tool. I mean, according to this site (truthism.com), those people who wrote it and those who believe it are no longer mind-controlled. Only those who deny "the truth" are weak-minded tools being used by the Reptilians. Did they undo their conditioning or 'programming' by simply acknowledging their true origins? How does that work? It's just a different belief after all. And again, why would a super-intelligent alien race who wants efficiency and to never be found risk 1) to be found and 2) that their creation ends up not being efficient enough for them? Is it so that they could have fun spying on us while we talk about them in disbelief?



Thanks for the good tone, that's how a discussion goes.

The theory suggests that they came to Earth to mind for gold for their atmosphere. They soon realised that it's too hard work for them (they were mainly scientists) and so they decided to just play a bit with the genes of an already existing creature on Earth and make it suitable for the work. If they are to create some kind of synthetic robots able of hard work like mining, carrying the gold, sorting it out and stuff like that it would take them a long time I suppose. There is very little evidence as to what kind of technology they had or didn't have and we can only speculate whether creating a multifunctional synthetic robot of some sort would be possible for them. Certainly, the easiest way for them to change a bit the already existing creature on Earth.

The theory branches in two ways here. Some believe that the Reptilians took over the already existing Humanity by creating disasters with their planet (they simply move it close to Earth and gravitation does it's job creating tsunamis, huge tides, volcanos, earthquakes and most people die) and when most of Humanity was dead, they genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable. Proponents of this theory believe that this time is in fact the Fall of Mankind. The snake and apple... The snake is responsible for Eve eating the apple and the following Fall of Mankind. Those who think that this is the case say that before the Reptilians came, we had full 100% active DNA (rather than the 3% today, and the 97% Junk DNA). Scientists still cannot explain the remaining 97% DNA that lie dormant within us. There is no normal evolutionary explanation for that.

Other proponents of the Reptilian theory believe that they took an already existing monkey-like creature and created mankind to serve them. If that's the case, the 97% "junk" DNA would only mean that we have been given by the Reptilians a chance to evolve and become extremely powerful beings after activating all the 100%. This doesn't add up much because their agenda is said to be that of control and manipulation.

The Reptilian theory also suggest that they need us as food. They control us in the same way we control chicken or pigs in barns. They give us food, entertainment and they eat us. It's been teorized that one of the reason for wars, except for profit, is also to have big amounts of dead bodies for them to collect and eat. Many of the soldiers' bodies are not found and it's normal in a warzone. It's also speculated that the adrenal gland secretes enormous amounts of adrenalin and other hormones triggered by fear which are preferred by the Reptilians. The theory suggests that there are rituals where young girls and boys are taken and raped and murdered for the same reason - eating a body that has been subjected to fear. The enormous amount of missing children throughout the world and especially in the USA can to a certain extent be explained by these ritualistic sacrifices say the Reptilian proponents.We all know that animals who are in the thousands kept in the same barn are very stressed and produce low quality food because of these hormones in the meat. Reptilians are said to thrive on them. Reptilians do not eat robots, they eat humans, we are cattle - that's what the theory states.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 14/06/2012 07:26

brambolius   Netherlands. Jun 14 2012 07:02. Posts 1708


  On June 14 2012 03:40 Loco wrote:
Conspiracy theorists love quoting Schopenhauer, what they don't like is actually reading his works. If there is one person who would have died laughing at all of this it is him.



Try to imagine Schoppenhauer laughing his ass off, it's hard but funny

Heat......EXTEND 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 07:03. Posts 2140

I dont think any youtube video of ppl shape shifting in some way is evidence.


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 07:03. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 05:45 Loco wrote:
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No, you are being imprecise. He calls him a wretched SLIMY reptilian motherfucker.

In your op you have stated and I quote: "This conspiracy theory suggests that there is a highly intelligent extraterrestrial humanoid Reptilian race walking on two feet like me and you."

There is no mention of them being SLIMY. They walk on two feet like you and me, why would they be slimy? Are you slimy? Unless they walk on two feet in water? Is that your argument?


As I already said they are said to have fish-like skin. The Sumerian and African legend state that clearly and Reptilians are thought to be MANY types. From very short to very big and muscular with long nails. Some are said to have wings, some are said to have redish skin features, some are said to be more white. The big ones with the wings are considered the leaders, the little ones are just the workers.

Any thoughts on this video:



Does anyone know French here? Tried using Google Translator but the result didn't make much sense lol. I want to know what they are saying. She's kind of sexy though. Imagine what she can do with that tongue lol :D

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 14/06/2012 07:24

tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 07:06. Posts 2140


  On June 14 2012 05:38 Spitfiree wrote:
Considering most people want OP banned since about the point he made his 1st post why are we obliged to bear with his idiotism ? If this is going to become a forum where any clown could spam with pointless threads just say so ill start opening threads with pictures of penguins with proof of them being the supreme mind ...

tutz you say to open our mind ? How do you define that exactly ? Should I open my mind to any world-end conspiracy theory ? Should I open my mind to any religion out there ? I m fine with tolerating people and beliefs up to a certain point, any other man that wanted a ban for OP is fine with that, however he's crossed the line long time ago. His threads are retarded, I doubt he himself believes any of that. The main idea of this thread is to boost his ego ... " give me any conspiracy theory and I will defend it " as if we are some kind of total idiots and he can convince us of anything he wants, as if we r some kind of puppets. This is beyond stupid and insulting. So you and OP could take your open minds and stick em at a certain place. Open mind and tolerance go hand in hand however when one of them depleted the other is drained as well



And wow if Mike Tyson is your argument .... a man whos job is to get constantly hit in the head for years ... yap anything he says would be damn legit



I mean open your mind to all posibilities. ALL OF THEM. Dont deny anything. Consider anything is posible. Even the homeless drunk guy in your street that says humans came from ants. You dont need to listen to anyone talking about it, but DONT judge them. If you dont want to discuss about it then just dont. That is a truly open mind.


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 07:12. Posts 688

I think people don't understand that open-mindedness doesn't mean believing. It means that after you said to yourself "lol, that's idiotic", listen to the arguments, if they make some sense and you are interested - research a bit more and MAYBE some truth will sprung up. Maybe next time. But be open to possibilities. That way you are never going to be stuck in the wrong, at least not for a long time. It's like adapting your worldview based on new information every second. Most people stop after school, they have been educated, they know it, they start repeating and stop questioning. Just be like "hmm, I will see where this takes me after a few months of research". Peace .

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jun 14 2012 07:34. Posts 8623

I think this is case of some dude mixing somewhat legitimate concerns (a bunch of duchebags ruling the world) with totally retarded theories to discredit the idea.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 08:31. Posts 2140

First video I found on the internet that really caught my eye. You might think it is bullshit but you have to ask yourself at least one thing: why are his eyes dark instead of blue as we all know they are?


palak   United States. Jun 14 2012 08:32. Posts 4601


  On June 14 2012 06:06 tutz wrote:
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I mean open your mind to all posibilities. ALL OF THEM. Dont deny anything. Consider anything is posible. Even the homeless drunk guy in your street that says humans came from ants. You dont need to listen to anyone talking about it, but DONT judge them. If you dont want to discuss about it then just dont. That is a truly open mind.


Or judge ppl who give insane ideas with no evidence. Example: "higgs boson doesnt exist" ok need evidence..."protons dont exist" get the fuck out unless u have insane evidence
But if a person says something like "jews are an evil inferio race responsable for all wars" I have zero problem telling that person to go jump off a fucking cliff and considering them racist scum.

I wish ppl would stop saying science as the "keep an open mind" when the first thing that occurs to any scientific hypothesis put forth is extreme skeptism and critism of a new idea. Acceptance or consideration only comes if the idea survives the barrage of critism and is reproducible.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

Loco   Canada. Jun 14 2012 08:52. Posts 20992


  On June 14 2012 06:03 D_smart_S wrote:
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As I already said they are said to have fish-like skin. The Sumerian and African legend state that clearly and Reptilians are thought to be MANY types. From very short to very big and muscular with long nails. Some are said to have wings, some are said to have redish skin features, some are said to be more white. The big ones with the wings are considered the leaders, the little ones are just the workers.

Any thoughts on this video:



Does anyone know French here? Tried using Google Translator but the result didn't make much sense lol. I want to know what they are saying. She's kind of sexy though. Imagine what she can do with that tongue lol :D



Fish skin is only slimy if it is wet.

My native tongue is French. She speaks about her experiences in life, stating how hard her childhood was because everyone laughed at her. She said some guy gave her cat food in high school.

A person born with an abnormality is not very good proof of some wacko new age conspiracy theory.

And again, if they wanted to conceal themselves at all cost, they wouldn't be playing this game.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 08:57. Posts 2140

Richard Dawkins about Inteligent Alien Design:

http://www.theoligarch.com/richard-dawkins-aliens.htm

Francis Crick (co-discover of human DNA) also proposed the Directed Panspermia theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 09:01. Posts 688

Loco, could you please make a script of the conversation, really curious. Or someone else. Lol @ someone giving her cat food, that's fucking hilarious :D:D:D.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

palak   United States. Jun 14 2012 09:09. Posts 4601

Directed Panspermia-alien life randomly sent satellites all over hoping one would start life elsewhere. Also no one takes it seriously, it's just a fun what-if like lightsabers.

Logic steps u r making after that.
1. Aliens have timely inter galactic travel
2. Aliens have existed in same rough form for 3+ billion years (as long as life has been around on Earth )
3. Aliens directed flow of evolution to that of sentient life and human form.
4. Aliens who had near light speed travel capabilities 3 billion years ago actually give a flying fuck about our species that can't even reach Mars.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 09:47. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 08:09 palak wrote:
Directed Panspermia-alien life randomly sent satellites all over hoping one would start life elsewhere. Also no one takes it seriously, it's just a fun what-if like lightsabers.

Logic steps u r making after that.
1. Aliens have timely inter galactic travel
2. Aliens have existed in same rough form for 3+ billion years (as long as life has been around on Earth )
3. Aliens directed flow of evolution to that of sentient life and human form.
4. Aliens who had near light speed travel capabilities 3 billion years ago actually give a flying fuck about our species that can't even reach Mars.



Don't you think that there are too many unknowns and IF's and possibilities to make concrete assumptions of life elsewhere. It's like our civilization's advancement can be compared to other alien civilization somewhere in the Universe like a frog compares to us. The frog would know that there is a place with water and some land and he would have no clue that there are humans unless the frog sees one. Even then it would have no idea who we are what our agenda is. Some of us might want to dissect it for lab tests. Some will want to just kill it for fun. Others would take it and put it in a aquarium and play with it. It wouldn't have any idea of those things. It wouldn't know we have Ipads and can fly in planes. There are too many unknowns out there in the eyes of a Type 0 civilization (doesn't even register on the scale, too early in development). Lots of different agendas can be out there, just as each of us has good, bad and kinky intentions in our daily lives. So I think if one says "if there are reptilians it would mean this, this and this and that (assumptions) so that would mean (more assumptions) so that means it makes no sense (logical conclusion based on wild assumptions of alien lifeform and universal cycles we have no clue of)

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auffenpuffer   Finland. Jun 14 2012 10:41. Posts 1429

d_smart, what's your opinion on David Icke? Is he a credible theorist, and are his views of reptilians credible? In particular, what is your opinion on his idea that reptilians need to drink blood of blond virgins to keep their powers? Also he claims that the reptilians are even 3 meters talls, yet manage to pretend to be humans, which seems somewhat strange.



For those LPers who are unfamiliar with him, David Icke is best known advocate of the reptilian conspiracy theory, afaik he made the whole thing up actually. Icke used to work for the bbc, untill one day (and this is according to himself) he heard voices in his head telling him that he is Jesus Christ born again. After a talk show where he made his views public he lost his job and reputation, yet for some reasons was not send to hospital in spite of the obvious mental disorder. Luckily he soon found a new way to make a living, namely the reptilian conspiracy. He is particularly popular among neo-nazis, who interpret him as using code to talk about the jewish conspiracy (ie. that when he saying reptilians he means jews).

 Last edit: 14/06/2012 10:42

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 10:46. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 06:03 D_smart_S wrote:
Show nested quote +



As I already said they are said to have fish-like skin. The Sumerian and African legend state that clearly and Reptilians are thought to be MANY types. From very short to very big and muscular with long nails. Some are said to have wings, some are said to have redish skin features, some are said to be more white. The big ones with the wings are considered the leaders, the little ones are just the workers.

Any thoughts on this video:



Does anyone know French here? Tried using Google Translator but the result didn't make much sense lol. I want to know what they are saying. She's kind of sexy though. Imagine what she can do with that tongue lol :D



You do know that you can buy contact lenses which makes your eyes look like that, and a sensational TV show might exploit this to gain more viewers/money?

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 10:52. Posts 688

I do know, yes. That's why I am posting it for discussion and want someone to translate it sentence by sentence if possible .

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 11:00. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 09:41 auffenpuffer wrote:
d_smart, what's your opinion on David Icke? Is he a credible theorist, and are his views of reptilians credible? In particular, what is your opinion on his idea that reptilians need to drink blood of blond virgins to keep their powers? Also he claims that the reptilians are even 3 meters talls, yet manage to pretend to be humans, which seems somewhat strange.



For those LPers who are unfamiliar with him, David Icke is best known advocate of the reptilian conspiracy theory, afaik he made the whole thing up actually. Icke used to work for the bbc, untill one day (and this is according to himself) he heard voices in his head telling him that he is Jesus Christ born again. After a talk show where he made his views public he lost his job and reputation, yet for some reasons was not send to hospital in spite of the obvious mental disorder. Luckily he soon found a new way to make a living, namely the reptilian conspiracy. He is particularly popular among neo-nazis, who interpret him as using code to talk about the jewish conspiracy (ie. that when he saying reptilians he means jews).



I think one should be aware of all possibilities and gather enough information to reach logical conclusions. That being said I don't consider the theory EMPTY. It needs consideration and thought.

When I found out about the hundreds of Sumerian tablets telling the human history and how we were created to be a slave race and see their reptilian figures and statues and look around the world today and see how we are a slave race to the system, with hundreds of millions of people dying from thirst, many others from hunger and when I see how bankers and international leaders kill, steal and manipulate humanity I gotta ask myself - should I not consider the possibility that those guys from ancient Sumeria were right? You gotta question everything. Maybe soon we will have more answers. I believe plain refuting, denying and shouting "ban him" is just childish. And you know, at the end of the day - whether you are fucked by an alien or a human being isn't the most important thing. The dick in your ass is!

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 11:04. Posts 2870

The problem I have with this is: Would a vastly superior intellectual race able to modify our genes very precisely, ever allow us the opportunity to find out something, they did not want us to know? I don't think so.

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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 11:08. Posts 688

David Icke did not "make the whole thing up". The theory has been around since ancient time. It's just that it's been popularized by the global network - internet. David Icke is simply one of the guys to popularize and research it the most. You can find books and research on the same theory before Icke went public with it.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 11:55. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 10:04 Zorglub wrote:
The problem I have with this is: Would a vastly superior intellectual race able to modify our genes very precisely, ever allow us the opportunity to find out something, they did not want us to know? I don't think so.



We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA. To be superior doesn't having full control of every aspect, especially of natural evolution. If you take a dog and alter it's DNA they would still remain dogs to a huge extent and so if we were advanced humans with 100% activated DNA we would still retain some of that (~3% in our case) so we would still be able to think and reason but consciousness evoution is a slow process. And remember that just as there might be bad Extraterrestrials out there there can also be good ones whose agenda is to help us for some reason... maybe. If we put some tight narrow criteria and try to run the theory through it it would always fail because these same criteria are made too narrow. If we say "okay, out of the 1000 claims of this theory, there is one thing that doesn't really fit my assumption for them (that they would have 100% control over us throughout thousands of years) so that one things brings the whole theory down" that's maybe not the best thought process here. Moreover, the theory suggests that they are very few compared to us and they want to remain in the dark which is logical of course. So that would mean they are not all powerful and everywhere. If you are creating a prison system that has to remain invisible to the slaves, you would have to create the illusion of people having the power of choice. That means that you HAVE TO give them some power so they remain deluded. There are still good people in politics. There are still good guys in the black projects. But they are few. There are guys like Jesse Ventura but how many? Very few... If you are an illusionist and your trick is to hide a car in front of an audience you still have to make it disappear somehow even if it's not real magic. You have to create a believable reality so that the slaves think they have a free choice and freedom. They would never rebel that way.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 12:12. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 10:55 D_smart_S wrote:
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We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA. To be superior doesn't having full control of every aspect, especially of natural evolution. If you take a dog and alter it's DNA they would still remain dogs to a huge extent and so if we were advanced humans with 100% activated DNA we would still retain some of that (~3% in our case) so we would still be able to think and reason but consciousness evoution is a slow process. And remember that just as there might be bad Extraterrestrials out there there can also be good ones whose agenda is to help us for some reason... maybe. If we put some tight narrow criteria and try to run the theory through it it would always fail because these same criteria are made too narrow. If we say "okay, out of the 1000 claims of this theory, there is one thing that doesn't really fit my assumption for them (that they would have 100% control over us throughout thousands of years) so that one things brings the whole theory down" that's maybe not the best thought process here. Moreover, the theory suggests that they are very few compared to us and they want to remain in the dark which is logical of course. So that would mean they are not all powerful and everywhere. If you are creating a prison system that has to remain invisible to the slaves, you would have to create the illusion of people having the power of choice. That means that you HAVE TO give them some power so they remain deluded. There are still good people in politics. There are still good guys in the black projects. But they are few. There are guys like Jesse Ventura but how many? Very few... If you are an illusionist and your trick is to hide a car in front of an audience you still have to make it disappear somehow even if it's not real magic. You have to create a believable reality so that the slaves think they have a free choice and freedom. They would never rebel that way.


Why would you ever give them a choice and freedom at all? Why not just make them mindless numbnuts only able to collect gold day and night? Why give them intelligence? Why give them power? Why do they have to sleep 1/3 of their lives away, it does not sound very efficient to me?
Why are only a very little proportion of us gathering real gold, when that is all they want?

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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 12:31. Posts 688

Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.

And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.

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Funktion   Australia. Jun 14 2012 12:33. Posts 1638

To the naysayers, need more proof?



This footage is Neil Armstrong fighting one of the lizard men on the moon when he discovered their secret. PROOF.


casinocasino   Canada. Jun 14 2012 12:37. Posts 3347

I purpose we have a "retard thread" where we can group all the morons for personal-non-invasive-forum discussions..


Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 13:05. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 11:31 D_smart_S wrote:
Zorglub, I have answered those things in my post #64.

And they are said to have come here with the initial intention to mine gold. Many thousands of years have gone past and their Agenda might have changed at least once since then. Read post #64 for my answers on the other things you pointed out.



"They genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable" So they altered 97% of out DNA but somehow they were unable to remove: Free will, Intelligence and the need for sleep?

And they have been here for thousands of years travelling through galaxies to get here, but they dont have time to create a synthetic robot, so they have to alter monkeys, but they are not able to alter that significant 3% of our genes which enables us to expose their entire scheme?

What kind of atmosphere does their planet have where gold is able to float? Do they breathe Uranium?

And why do they need to alter their own atmosphere when they could just take our planet for themselves?

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Endo   United States. Jun 14 2012 13:06. Posts 953

I'm so confused....

It almost seems like someone edited all the posts and I cant tell if this is troll or not


FarmMylife   Canada. Jun 14 2012 13:20. Posts 111


  We are a very low tech civilization and we already alter genes and DNA.



What civilization are you comparing us to? While there may actually be other alien civilizations out there you can't point to a planet say the aliens live here and we know X and X about the culture and civilization with definitive proof. Every other human civilization that came before us like the Romans/Mayans we are technologically vastly superior.

Why do you have such a hard time taking things at face value? Your idea's and theories are overly complex and convoluted. I really wish you had to take a basic IQ test or something before being able to access the internet. D_Smart_S I think you are polluting the gene pool of humanity and you should only bred with these reptiles you are slithering pretty hard right now


Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 14:00. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 12:20 FarmMylife wrote:
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What civilization are you comparing us to? While there may actually be other alien civilizations out there you can't point to a planet say the aliens live here and we know X and X about the culture and civilization with definitive proof. Every other human civilization that came before us like the Romans/Mayans we are technologically vastly superior.

Why do you have such a hard time taking things at face value? Your idea's and theories are overly complex and convoluted. I really wish you had to take a basic IQ test or something before being able to access the internet. D_Smart_S I think you are polluting the gene pool of humanity and you should only bred with these reptiles you are slithering pretty hard right now


He is arguing for the sake of arguing, something a lot of people don't get apparently. It is a very good practise, you should try it once. Argueing a point of view you don't believe yourself, might open your eyes to new ideas or better arguments/ counter arguments and other ways to percieve reality.

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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 14:18. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 12:05 Zorglub wrote:
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"They genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable" So they altered 97% of out DNA but somehow they were unable to remove: Free will, Intelligence and the need for sleep?

And they have been here for thousands of years travelling through galaxies to get here, but they dont have time to create a synthetic robot, so they have to alter monkeys, but they are not able to alter that significant 3% of our genes which enables us to expose their entire scheme?

What kind of atmosphere does their planet have where gold is able to float? Do they breathe Uranium?

And why do they need to alter their own atmosphere when they could just take our planet for themselves?


I meant that the theory branches in two directions. The Sumerian Tablets explain that the Annunaki came and altered the genes of a an already existing being. You can read the work of Zecharia Sitchin who was the world's leading expert in Sumerian language. He has written several books on the detailed historic records written in the Sumerian Tablets. There was even a book among the hundreds of tablets that was called The Book of Enki. As much as I remember almost all of the book is missing but you can research it yourself. There are many such 5000 y.o. historic records that need examining so don't ask me about every detail. Not all is known, some tablets have been stolen or destroyed...

So the two branches of the theory is that the Annunaki created us from monkey-like beings so they uplifted our evolution to make us their intelligent human slaves. But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have? They don't want us to evolve so why would they make us not only intelligent but also give us more DNA to evolve further through time when we would be able to break free from them.

The analysis of our DNA shows that the other 97% simply look switched off, like two wires plugged off or something like that. The whole idea of the "Fall of Mankind" is present in almost any ancient and modern culture/religion. We know the story from the Bible that the snake gave Eve the food which fucked us up and we became martyrs and slaves and we shouldn't eat from the tree of knowledge and if we don't do good we will burn in Hell for all eternity and all these fear-based and suppressive mechanisms installed within the global consciousness of mankind. So isn't it possible that there was a race of humans on Earth a looong time ago and these Reptilians came and created all kinds of disasters through the gravitational pull of their planet or some other means. They kill most people and leave some and switch off around 97% of their DNA to make them more controllable in all aspects. They have sex, give offspring that are reptilian-human hybrids and modernday man is created. They begin keeping track of their bloodlines that are the most pure and give them right to rule different places and their power transfers through every other generation. They can simply rewrite most of the history just like today where the winner writes the history. Of course, you can't just change the story a 100% because people would realise it so you do it subtly and so we see today the history of Ancient Sumeria but we can't be sure that it's 100% correct. Maybe the Annunaki didn't want all the truth out there and altered it a bit. You never know. To me, the more probable of the two branches of the Reptilian theory is that they switched off those 97% rather than boosted us from monkeys. So maybe that's the detail they altered in the history. It's pure speculation. I am just presenting the theory and it's differings among theorists. Nobody knows the whole truth, but we can at least try to analyse the ancient past and present and see where it takes us.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

FarmMylife   Canada. Jun 14 2012 14:26. Posts 111

^ So the other threads like the Olympic one and the Chicago one were what then? Why not argue something real like the gold standard vs the dollar or PC vs MAC, where both points have merritts if you want to practice debate skills. Debating that David Icke isnt a complete moron is just stupidity


palak   United States. Jun 14 2012 14:36. Posts 4601


  But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have



Well to start with, that's not true. Just because right now only ~3% of our DNA is known to code for proteins doesnt mean the other 97% isnt functional in either unknown ways or in known ways which are just non-coding.

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anheway   . Jun 14 2012 14:48. Posts 338


  On June 14 2012 06:03 D_smart_S wrote:
Any thoughts on this video:



Someone already mentioned lenses.

I'll give more scientific explanation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloboma

http://www.science20.com/science_motherhood/coloboma_humans_cat_eyes


taco   Iceland. Jun 14 2012 14:57. Posts 1793


  On June 14 2012 10:00 D_smart_S wrote:
I think one should be aware of all possibilities and gather enough information to reach logical conclusions.



As I would say in bad Icelandic: Mesta bullshit aldarinnar.

You are not on that opinion at all, you want to gather incomplete information and reach illogical conclusions.


Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 15:37. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 13:18 D_smart_S wrote:
Show nested quote +



I meant that the theory branches in two directions. The Sumerian Tablets explain that the Annunaki came and altered the genes of a an already existing being. You can read the work of Zecharia Sitchin who was the world's leading expert in Sumerian language. He has written several books on the detailed historic records written in the Sumerian Tablets. There was even a book among the hundreds of tablets that was called The Book of Enki. As much as I remember almost all of the book is missing but you can research it yourself. There are many such 5000 y.o. historic records that need examining so don't ask me about every detail. Not all is known, some tablets have been stolen or destroyed...

So the two branches of the theory is that the Annunaki created us from monkey-like beings so they uplifted our evolution to make us their intelligent human slaves. But if that is true why do we use only 3% of the whole 100% DNA we have? They don't want us to evolve so why would they make us not only intelligent but also give us more DNA to evolve further through time when we would be able to break free from them.

The analysis of our DNA shows that the other 97% simply look switched off, like two wires plugged off or something like that. The whole idea of the "Fall of Mankind" is present in almost any ancient and modern culture/religion. We know the story from the Bible that the snake gave Eve the food which fucked us up and we became martyrs and slaves and we shouldn't eat from the tree of knowledge and if we don't do good we will burn in Hell for all eternity and all these fear-based and suppressive mechanisms installed within the global consciousness of mankind. So isn't it possible that there was a race of humans on Earth a looong time ago and these Reptilians came and created all kinds of disasters through the gravitational pull of their planet or some other means. They kill most people and leave some and switch off around 97% of their DNA to make them more controllable in all aspects. They have sex, give offspring that are reptilian-human hybrids and modernday man is created. They begin keeping track of their bloodlines that are the most pure and give them right to rule different places and their power transfers through every other generation. They can simply rewrite most of the history just like today where the winner writes the history. Of course, you can't just change the story a 100% because people would realise it so you do it subtly and so we see today the history of Ancient Sumeria but we can't be sure that it's 100% correct. Maybe the Annunaki didn't want all the truth out there and altered it a bit. You never know. To me, the more probable of the two branches of the Reptilian theory is that they switched off those 97% rather than boosted us from monkeys. So maybe that's the detail they altered in the history. It's pure speculation. I am just presenting the theory and it's differings among theorists. Nobody knows the whole truth, but we can at least try to analyse the ancient past and present and see where it takes us.



From this explanation it sounds like it is the females who are the reptiles. With their gravitational pull they are making disasters for the monkeys, who let the snake between their legs guide them. The monkeys are dragged into a dark hole, they switch off their own DNA and end up as couch potatoes, doing nothing but collecting gold for the reptile. The mitochondrial DNA spreads the virus to further generations. Maybe that is why women likes sunbathing so much

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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 15:57. Posts 688


  On June 14 2012 13:48 anheway wrote:
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Someone already mentioned lenses.

I'll give more scientific explanation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloboma

http://www.science20.com/science_motherhood/coloboma_humans_cat_eyes


Sure, there is room for speculation. I still want to see the script.

The incidence of coloboma/Cat Eye Syndrome is estimated at around 0.5 to 0.7 per 10,000 births, making it a relatively rare condition. That's a very rare condition. And from the pictures I have seen on Coloboma and other similar illnesses they are more likely to be random and on only of the eyes. The girl in the video looks very perfect which doesn't mean it can't be Coloboma.





The mutations that cause the Cat Eye Syndrome also lead to numerous health problems. That french girl on the video looks pretty normal to me in terms of behaviour. A script would be helpful.

Anal atresia (abnormal obstruction of the anus)
Unilateral or bilateral iris coloboma (absence of tissue from the colored part of the eyes)
Downward-slanting Palpebral fissures (openings between the upper and lower eyelids)
Preauricular pits/tags (small depressions/growths of skin on the outer ears)
Cardiac defects (such as TAPVR)
Kidney problems (missing, extra, or underdeveloped kidneys)
Short stature
Scoliosis/Skeletal problems
Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation.
Micrognathia (smaller jaw)
Hernias
Cleft palate
Rarer malformations can affect almost any organ

Note this:

Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation.

So if a proponent of the Reptilian theory shows you many cases of such possible shapeshift/hologram failiure among the top officials then does it mean they all have the Cat Eye Syndrome and most of them are mildly retarded or have kidney failiures and other severe health problems? As the thread develops I will post more and more of the videos that are more arguable.

This is Richard Baker:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Baker_(U.S._politician)





This is Andrew Sorkin, a Gerald Loeb Award-winning American journalist and author:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ross_Sorkin



Looks pretty healthy and with a sharp mind.

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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 16:11. Posts 2870

"Mental retardation -- although most are borderline normal to mildly retarded, and a few even have normal intelligence, CES patients occasionally exhibit moderate to severe retardation."

Even this fits perfectly with the female explanation

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tutz   Brasil. Jun 14 2012 16:33. Posts 2140

Didnt want to say but, I had an extra sensorial experience that led me to true and complete understanding that happened like 2 weeks ago.
This is exactly what I believe in, starts @ 4:00 :

OPEN YOUR MIND

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palak   United States. Jun 14 2012 17:00. Posts 4601

"Easily reached from other galaxies." what..milky way is 100,000–120,000 light years in diameter (wiki) the nearest galaxy is 2,500,000 light years away. Giving it the benefit of the doubt a person traveling between galaxies had to go travel 21 times the diameter of the milky way to reach us (and that's assuming we were at the moment on the opposite side of where they took off from. If a species had intergalactic travel, intragalactic travel is fucking simple.

Whole combing species thing just reminds me of this http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e04-cancelled


"During earths early history there were wars." followed by "Native earth species, humans...these new owners are in the bible"
Earths early history ie 4.5 billion years ago, not 300k.

Barbara Marciniak seems to think December 2012 is the end of the world. Just like a bunch of people who study history for a whole 10 seconds, and unlike the Mayans who didn't think it was the end of anything.

  Newly discovered wall writings found in Guatemala show the famed Maya culture's obsession with cycles of time. But they also show calendars that go well beyond 2012, the year when the vanished civilization, according to popular culture, expected the end of the world.
"So much for the supposed end of the world," says archaeologist William Saturno of Boston University, lead author of a study in the journal Science, which reported the discovery on Thursday.
Discovered in the ruins of Xultun (SHOOL-toon) , the astronomical calendar was unearthed from a filled-in scribe's room. While about 7 million Maya people still live in Central America today, the "Classic" Maya civilization of pyramid temples had collapsed there by about 900 A.D., leaving only a few birch-bark books dating to perhaps the 14th century as records of their astronomy, until now.
"The numbers we found indicate an obsession with time and cycles of time, some of them very large," Saturno says. "Maya scribes most likely transcribed the numbers on the wall in this room into (books) just like the ones later seen by conquistadors."
Explorers first reported the site of Xultun, once a large Maya center, in 1915. But it was only two years ago that National Geographic Society-funded archaeologists noted a small residential room partly exposed by looters. The room's walls proved to hold murals and small, delicate hieroglyphs inscribed in rows between paintings of scribes and rulers that not only corresponded to a 260 day ceremonial calendar and 365-day year, but the 584-day sky track of Venus and 780-day one of Mars.
Examination of the rows shows they are columns of numbers and symbols similar to lunar eclipse calculations found in early 16th century Maya writings that tied astronomical events to rituals. Some of them include dates corresponding to a time after the year 3500.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/...a-apocalypse-calendar-2012/54879760/1

edit: not end of the world i suppose, just "new awkening"

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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 17:06. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 15:33 tutz wrote:
Didnt want to say but, I had an extra sensorial experience that led me to true and complete understanding that happened like 2 weeks ago.
This is exactly what I believe in, starts @ 4:00 :

OPEN YOUR MIND



But but.... If I am the universe and you are the universe, why are people fighting? And who are you, when you are me? And who am I?

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nerdonpoker   . Jun 14 2012 17:30. Posts 414

I farted and shit came out


palak   United States. Jun 14 2012 17:33. Posts 4601

Barbara Marciniak in 1999

  I do. My plans are earlier than that, because I am practical. Ask anybody: my checkbook balances, my house is in order there's a few dust bunnies around but basically, I'm a real functional, grounded, right-here-now kind of person. I can perceive that there is going to be a tremendous amount of difficulty, and so I anticipate doing a move, because everything I do, I do by intention.
I always first make an intention when I want something to come into form whether I want to write a book, whether I'm pulling out of the driveway or whether I'm going to cook something. I always direct the energy of my day by saying, "I intend to be productive, I intend to create this." So my intention is to be in the right place in a self-supported, self-sustaining environment that's not isolated but where I can have my own water, my own energy source and my own food and work in a community sort of situation. I think this could be a very healthy choice, because this is what we've gotten away from.
The Pleiadians say that Y2K is planned obsolescence. They say this is the oldest trick in the book; that when you want to play a trick on a new budding culture, you give them this technology and you trick them so that the thing becomes obsolete and they're in your paws. The Pleiadians have this very other-worldly view because they see us as pawns in a game by other beings that we don't wake up to. Because we won't shift our perception, we won't wake up to it. Therefore, we pay people to be our popes and priests and presidents so that they can think for us and intercede with these beings without us knowing. That's one of their points of view.
And I'll tell you, studying the occult and illuminati and world management and new world order, it's looking very real to me. A lot of stuff they used to say to me I used to think was too far out, but I'd check it out because I'm a student. A lot of it comes down that there is this influence on our planet that has been here forever and we're unaware of it. And so we've become isolated. Technology isolates us even more.


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message277058/pg1

Current website for better source is down >.<


  The development of this meme can be traced through other means as well. Barbara Marciniak, who started channeling the Pleiadians in 1988, makes no mention of 2012 as the Ascension date in a 1998 interview with “The Monthly Aspectarian” (10). In that interview, she and the Pleiadians focused on Y2K instead. However her book editor and publisher was Barbara Hand Clow, who also published Jenkins and Arguelles. By 2004, Marciniak was including the 2012 for Ascension, and had the Pleiadians commenting on the Mayan Calendar as well. (11)

(again need website archieve to come up for better source) http://www.2012hoax.org/new-age-ascension


  Barbara Marciniak
Channeler Marciniak offered the following:

The year 1999 will be noted by a tremendous number of monetary fluctuations.
Many inventions, brilliant solutions, and ideas burst forward in the spring of the year, all released from past memory.
On a political level, you will find more scripted glamours occupying every mediated moment. The events on television, in trials, and litigations are but a small sliver of the actual misdeeds.
Many people will step forward in 1999 with claims of truths revealing practices of dark sexual misdeeds that will shock and frighten the public.
Human consciousness will undergo a major awakening, and the bigger picture of reality will explode, resulting in a wave of tremendous action.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa122798.htm

Brick, brick, brick, brick, and brick

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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 17:55. Posts 2870

Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry.
Mama's gonna make all your nightmares come true.
Mama's gonna put all her fears into you.
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Mama's gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Ooooh baby, ooooh baby, oooooh baby,
Of course mama's gonna help build the wall.

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anheway   . Jun 14 2012 18:52. Posts 338


 
So if a proponent of the Reptilian theory shows you many cases of such possible shapeshift/hologram failiure ...


Ah yes, the "hologram failure" ... for some believers it's easier to come up with the theory that reptilians can't fully control their 'human form' than the simple technical fact that video codecs aren't perfect. I've just seen plenty of vids on youtube but this one is interesting cause someone could actually compare it to the original:

OMG she's a reptilian:





What really happened:

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Syllogism   New Zealand. Jun 14 2012 18:54. Posts 214






chris   United States. Jun 14 2012 19:29. Posts 5505

i like the idea of this thread. i didnt read the full OP, or most of the thread, but it could be fun to talk about the conspiracies - not like anyone has to take it seriously, and if someone does, so what.

there are billions of people who have religion, and some even blow themselves up, and others, in that belief, like cults.

i think i saw someone suggest a dedicated section for this type of topic. i think good idea.

5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly 

chris   United States. Jun 14 2012 19:29. Posts 5505

not like many people talk poker on here, or dont troll, anyway.

5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2012 20:27. Posts 9634

Tutz its only natural for non heavy ignorant people to search for "something more", it would suck if this is what we are living for: from birth - learn, work, make a family, die - seems like our purpose is just genetical and we leave nothing behind really. Not even people like Einstein leave anything behind in the global sense of it all, no research would really matter as generations move on and everybody dies. So whats the point in life if there isnt some greater purpose for the greater good ... a cosmical purpose would be the most sufficient thing to hang on to, it would fulfil absolutely everything a mind could desire. After all our everyday life couldnt be all there is, that would make us small and unappreciated who would want that ?


Sorry dude but you have a really bad understanding of the term "open- mind" . Yes it does mean you keep it open for new ideas, new experiences and beliefs and so on. However those things shouldnt become a part of you unless they are heavily argumented and proved otherwise you will become the next victim of a sect. And that video almost made me fall asleep. I dont think that being judgemental and being open minded are two opposite things that shouldnt/couldnt co-exist. I also find that being non judgemental would be kind of bad for society itself, people would be far less motivated if noone was judging things, there would be no growth, no evolution, we would be stuck in one place since competition wouldnt exist. Its all in the very core of our character. You are actually judging me while telling me that I shouldnt be judging anyone and I should keep an open mind which is exactly the opposite of what you want isnt it ? :D


Its not really hard to find somewhat good written materials "proving" any conspiracy theory which on first read would sound sooo right and legit that it would almost make us feel stupid for not realizing this by ourselves ...
I mean look you saw a somewhat decent video and you are so astonished by it all ...
Yeah there could be reptiles and there could be a great univeral need to make humanity reach a new evolutionary level ... but honestly i dont give a crap about it even if they do exist and there are far more sufficient ways to make us achieve that.
So reptiles if you do exist :
Fuck you and your lazy asses
Sincerely,
The race you created

P.S. kind of a long post ... couldnt really fit everything in and my thought are probably very chaoticaly written but then again i dont care so


TianYuan    Korea (South). Jun 14 2012 20:52. Posts 6817


  On June 14 2012 05:56 D_smart_S wrote:
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Thanks for the good tone, that's how a discussion goes.

The theory suggests that they came to Earth to mind for gold for their atmosphere. They soon realised that it's too hard work for them (they were mainly scientists) and so they decided to just play a bit with the genes of an already existing creature on Earth and make it suitable for the work. If they are to create some kind of synthetic robots able of hard work like mining, carrying the gold, sorting it out and stuff like that it would take them a long time I suppose. There is very little evidence as to what kind of technology they had or didn't have and we can only speculate whether creating a multifunctional synthetic robot of some sort would be possible for them. Certainly, the easiest way for them to change a bit the already existing creature on Earth.

The theory branches in two ways here. Some believe that the Reptilians took over the already existing Humanity by creating disasters with their planet (they simply move it close to Earth and gravitation does it's job creating tsunamis, huge tides, volcanos, earthquakes and most people die) and when most of Humanity was dead, they genetically altered the remaining ones switching off 97% of their DNA and making them controllable. Proponents of this theory believe that this time is in fact the Fall of Mankind. The snake and apple... The snake is responsible for Eve eating the apple and the following Fall of Mankind. Those who think that this is the case say that before the Reptilians came, we had full 100% active DNA (rather than the 3% today, and the 97% Junk DNA). Scientists still cannot explain the remaining 97% DNA that lie dormant within us. There is no normal evolutionary explanation for that.

Other proponents of the Reptilian theory believe that they took an already existing monkey-like creature and created mankind to serve them. If that's the case, the 97% "junk" DNA would only mean that we have been given by the Reptilians a chance to evolve and become extremely powerful beings after activating all the 100%. This doesn't add up much because their agenda is said to be that of control and manipulation.

The Reptilian theory also suggest that they need us as food. They control us in the same way we control chicken or pigs in barns. They give us food, entertainment and they eat us. It's been teorized that one of the reason for wars, except for profit, is also to have big amounts of dead bodies for them to collect and eat. Many of the soldiers' bodies are not found and it's normal in a warzone. It's also speculated that the adrenal gland secretes enormous amounts of adrenalin and other hormones triggered by fear which are preferred by the Reptilians. The theory suggests that there are rituals where young girls and boys are taken and raped and murdered for the same reason - eating a body that has been subjected to fear. The enormous amount of missing children throughout the world and especially in the USA can to a certain extent be explained by these ritualistic sacrifices say the Reptilian proponents.We all know that animals who are in the thousands kept in the same barn are very stressed and produce low quality food because of these hormones in the meat. Reptilians are said to thrive on them. Reptilians do not eat robots, they eat humans, we are cattle - that's what the theory states.



My brain hurts.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 14 2012 21:02. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 19:27 Spitfiree wrote:
Tutz its only natural for non heavy ignorant people to search for "something more", it would suck if this is what we are living for: from birth - learn, work, make a family, die - seems like our purpose is just genetical and we leave nothing behind really. Not even people like Einstein leave anything behind in the global sense of it all, no research would really matter as generations move on and everybody dies. So whats the point in life if there isnt some greater purpose for the greater good ... a cosmical purpose would be the most sufficient thing to hang on to, it would fulfil absolutely everything a mind could desire. After all our everyday life couldnt be all there is, that would make us small and unappreciated who would want that ?


Sorry dude but you have a really bad understanding of the term "open- mind" . Yes it does mean you keep it open for new ideas, new experiences and beliefs and so on. However those things shouldnt become a part of you unless they are heavily argumented and proved otherwise you will become the next victim of a sect. And that video almost made me fall asleep. I dont think that being judgemental and being open minded are two opposite things that shouldnt/couldnt co-exist. I also find that being non judgemental would be kind of bad for society itself, people would be far less motivated if noone was judging things, there would be no growth, no evolution, we would be stuck in one place since competition wouldnt exist. Its all in the very core of our character. You are actually judging me while telling me that I shouldnt be judging anyone and I should keep an open mind which is exactly the opposite of what you want isnt it ? :D


Its not really hard to find somewhat good written materials "proving" any conspiracy theory which on first read would sound sooo right and legit that it would almost make us feel stupid for not realizing this by ourselves ...
I mean look you saw a somewhat decent video and you are so astonished by it all ...
Yeah there could be reptiles and there could be a great univeral need to make humanity reach a new evolutionary level ... but honestly i dont give a crap about it even if they do exist and there are far more sufficient ways to make us achieve that.
So reptiles if you do exist :
Fuck you and your lazy asses
Sincerely,
The race you created

P.S. kind of a long post ... couldnt really fit everything in and my thought are probably very chaoticaly written but then again i dont care so



We know that animals evolve into something else over time (Animals to humans for example)(Morphology), even rocks dont stay the same but pass through different stages. We know that planets and stars evolve over time (Stellar evolution) and there are billions and billions of them out there. A not so far fetched idea would be for humans to evolve into something else, perhaps a planet or a moon or a star.

Maybe planets and stars are intelligent, but we are just too stupid to realize it yet. There is only a 3% difference in the DNA of a monkey and a human, but there is a world of difference in our ability to understand our surroundings.

Then there is this curious thing: A 1D creature would only see one dimension of a 2D creature, a 3D creature would only see three dimensions of a 4D creature, and so on.

Would we understand or even percieve a 5D creature, when we don't share that extra dimension and it may be a thousand times smarter than us?

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whamm!   Albania. Jun 14 2012 21:07. Posts 11625


  On June 14 2012 16:30 nerdonpoker wrote:
I farted and shit came out




check your shit for baby lizards


Graisseux   Canada. Jun 14 2012 23:29. Posts 474


  On June 14 2012 20:02 Zorglub wrote:
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We know that animals evolve into something else over time (Animals to humans for example)(Morphology), even rocks dont stay the same but pass through different stages. We know that planets and stars evolve over time (Stellar evolution) and there are billions and billions of them out there. A not so far fetched idea would be for humans to evolve into something else, perhaps a planet or a moon or a star.

Maybe planets and stars are intelligent, but we are just too stupid to realize it yet. There is only a 3% difference in the DNA of a monkey and a human, but there is a world of difference in our ability to understand our surroundings.

Then there is this curious thing: A 1D creature would only see one dimension of a 2D creature, a 3D creature would only see three dimensions of a 4D creature, and so on.

Would we understand or even percieve a 5D creature, when we don't share that extra dimension and it may be a thousand times smarter than us?


These threads are so crazy that trolls are hard to distinguish from the other maniacs lol I actually believed for at least 2 min that you really meant humans evolving into stars and stars having intelligence.


Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 15 2012 01:02. Posts 2870


  On June 14 2012 22:29 Graisseux wrote:
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These threads are so crazy that trolls are hard to distinguish from the other maniacs lol I actually believed for at least 2 min that you really meant humans evolving into stars and stars having intelligence.



I did Here is the simple and quick version: Mass is energy, energy is information, given enough information a nuclear fusion process begins within your head, your head explodes and you become a star. This is what happened to Einstein and many other stars.

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tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 01:56. Posts 2140

There is a very interesting series called Ancient Aliens that explains a lot of what if went on in the begining.
Especifically the episode 3 of the first season talks about why the Reptilians (Annunaki) came to earth and why they did what they did with several scientists commenting on it. It is worth watching the entire serie.

 Last edit: 15/06/2012 01:59

Dayum   United States. Jun 15 2012 03:54. Posts 30

I just want to say that I love these threads by OP. I find all this information fascinating. Here's a video about the hidden human history recommended by Joe Rogan that I found extremely interesting and I hope some of you do too.


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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 03:54. Posts 688

So what do LPers think of these strangely-eyed guys like Richard Baker? Why does he have slits on both eyes, do you find it strange and worth discussion?

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Dayum   United States. Jun 15 2012 03:56. Posts 30

I'm not sure how to get the youtube vid to show up... It works when I preview my post but it doesn't seem to be working once my message has been posted.

I keep going and going but Im not the pink bunny. Instead of beating on a drum I never stop thinking money. 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 04:03. Posts 688

Did you copy-pasted the http address?

Here is Richard Baker once again, let's discuss this creepy motherfucker.

#!

Pause the video at 16 seconds and read what the guy voted for (I have not checked information, check it yourself, I don't have time now). According to the video he has voted for the Patriot Act + other anti-human rights laws/legislations...

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D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 04:38. Posts 688



This lecture is something like 50-80 pounds for the live performance and they are always sold out months in advance and it's a very interesting watch. Yeah, there is a mixture of facts, speculation and conclusions but it also goes deeper in the supposed Reptilian Conspiracy Theory. The video does not deal exclusively with the Reptilian theme. It encompasses many different interrelated subjects and brings them into one worldview. Just food for thought on the topic of this thread.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jun 15 2012 05:54. Posts 5647


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 07:04. Posts 688

#!

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 07:15. Posts 4019

The "smart" in his name is the biggest troll of them all, i propose we address him as D_umbas_S from now on.


palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 08:31. Posts 4601


  On June 15 2012 00:56 tutz wrote:
There is a very interesting series called Ancient Aliens that explains a lot of what if went on in the begining.
Especifically the episode 3 of the first season talks about why the Reptilians (Annunaki) came to earth and why they did what they did with several scientists commenting on it. It is worth watching the entire serie.



I have watched almost every episode of that series and I cant remember a single scientist or PhD historian ever being shown talking. Also the show is disgustingly inaccurate.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 08:54. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 07:31 palak wrote:
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I have watched almost every episode of that series and I cant remember a single scientist or PhD historian ever being shown talking. Also the show is disgustingly inaccurate.


You are very attached to the idea of formal mainstream education as a credible base to your knowledge. We are talking about things that are not widely accepted, that the mainstream does not talk much about or accept. We are trying to look at the world in a total different way that we have been tought. If you keep listening to the same source you will get the same answers. You also say things that you have no way of being so certain of, like saying the serie is disgustingly inaccurate. Well how can you ever know that really? Did you analyze every episode, hours and hours of documentary to come to this conclusion or you are trusting your mainstream source again? I'm watching the series right now as we speak I have seen 2 scientists alone is this episode. If you think they are credible or not I dont know, but there are people that have dedicated their entire life to this matter.


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 09:13. Posts 688

Dude, he compares new information to the mainstream information and if it doesn't match it's false. He doesn't understand that the so-called "mainstream truth" is just a theory. It is the official theory therefore it is the absolute truth, ask the PhDs who have built their carreers on defending that truth - that's his logic. I have not seen ONCE palak to question something the government does and deeply think about the possibilities. He is a repeating station "government says you are wrong therefore you are wrong, link - wikipedia". That's psychology, just let him be, he won't get it. He will simply open wikipedia and copy-paste the mainstream theory and base his opinion on it. Everyone on LP knows that. He doesn't understand that there are highly intelligent people who study different subjects deeply and they are called researchers. They present facts, speculation and conclusion and you see if it makes sense and try to make up your own mind. To palak, it's either they are 100% correct or 100% wrong and after the wikipedia checkout he realises that they don't match so it's BS without any further need to investigate. He is a shallow thinker, but you can't do anything, tutz. As you can see from almost every post of his, he basically needs to believe someone. He asks "who is the source, who told you so?" There is no evidence or clue that he himself can analyse, he simply wants to attach himself to someone else respected person's opinion so that he won't think. "lol so this guy says these facts, he's an idiot, does he have 3 PhDs? NO? LoL I won't listen to him." "Here this is a video of a university lecure of a guy who has 3 PhDs and shares the same opinion as me, watch it, you can believe him because of the PhD."

He refuses to actually form his own opinion based on facts and reasoning, he needs to believe a guy that he respects. He has grown up with the government/mainstream truth and will defend it till he dies. Better listen to retards like Penn and Teller or whatever these jokes are named and "debunk" everything. They are like "hey, everyone has seen those retarded videos of UFOs, it's all BULLSHIT. Here - we built a model and trew it in the air and took two pictures, they look real but they are not! UFOs Debunked!!!". That's why I won't bother arguing with palak, he simply does not know how to think crytically and form his own opinion. Sorry for the harsh words, palak, but you know it is true.

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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 15 2012 09:14. Posts 1779

tutz do u share your ideas with your gf or close friends? what do they think?

if my gf would start srsly believing in such shit i would jump asap


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 09:30. Posts 9634

If you want a strong legit argument about OP's theory watch " V " series both old and new !


D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 09:33. Posts 688

lol i was just gonna post the trailer. If you could combine Olympics thread + this thread you get something like the trailer :D




Any thoughts on that tongue guy?

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tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 10:34. Posts 2140

I think that tongue is pretty lame, just a normal tongue.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 10:39. Posts 2140

get the fuck out of london...

-u-u


palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 11:25. Posts 4601


  On June 15 2012 08:13 D_smart_S wrote:+ Show Spoiler +



This coming from a person who thinks
1. Hemp oil cures cancer
2. The gerson therapy cures cancer
3. Oxygen peroxide may cure cancer
4. Blood electrocution may cure cancer.
5. Laetrile cures cancer
6. "There is not 1 single evidence that HIV leads to AIDS!"
7. Fema is making death camps.
8. The illuminati control the world.
9. That there would be a large terrorist attack in Chicago in May.
10. That schizophrenic people are hearing voices from other universes.
11. That quantum entanglement is measured using human cells and allows for faster than light communication.

Plus other crap I can't remember.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 11:34. Posts 688


  On June 15 2012 09:34 tutz wrote:
I think that tongue is pretty lame, just a normal tongue.



yeah it's a bit longer than most people's tongues but why does he act like that? Never seen a person acting like that. It's almost like he didn't know what's going on for 30 seconds. And that happens on the news! What was he thinking lol. It almost looks like he is restarting himself and waiting for his software to turn on again. I don't understand what would make a News Anchor do that gimmicks for half a minute, unable to read or talk, looking completely disorientated and then he turns normal again.

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palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 11:36. Posts 4601

Really cant wait til August 13th
Also didn't think it would take needing explanation why I say a show which says things like: the pyramids were powering orbital space crafts, the mayans thought 2012 was the end of the world, or
  A church in southern France is said to hold the key to alchemy--and a gateway to another part of the universe. Locals in Cusco, Peru believe UFO sightings are connected to lost gold at the bottom of Lake Puray. And some believe underneath the Great Sphinx of Giza lies an entire library left behind by extraterrestrials--a library stored on gold.



But how bout u list ur 3 favorite ancient alien episodes and this weekend I'll watch them and post a factual analysis of them.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jun 15 2012 11:36. Posts 5647


  On June 15 2012 08:13 D_smart_S wrote:
Dude, he compares new information to the mainstream information and if it doesn't match it's false. He doesn't understand that the so-called "mainstream truth" is just a theory. It is the official theory therefore it is the absolute truth, ask the PhDs who have built their carreers on defending that truth - that's his logic. I have not seen ONCE palak to question something the government does and deeply think about the possibilities. He is a repeating station "government says you are wrong therefore you are wrong, link - wikipedia". That's psychology, just let him be, he won't get it. He will simply open wikipedia and copy-paste the mainstream theory and base his opinion on it. Everyone on LP knows that. He doesn't understand that there are highly intelligent people who study different subjects deeply and they are called researchers. They present facts, speculation and conclusion and you see if it makes sense and try to make up your own mind. To palak, it's either they are 100% correct or 100% wrong and after the wikipedia checkout he realises that they don't match so it's BS without any further need to investigate. He is a shallow thinker, but you can't do anything, tutz. As you can see from almost every post of his, he basically needs to believe someone. He asks "who is the source, who told you so?" There is no evidence or clue that he himself can analyse, he simply wants to attach himself to someone else respected person's opinion so that he won't think. "lol so this guy says these facts, he's an idiot, does he have 3 PhDs? NO? LoL I won't listen to him." "Here this is a video of a university lecure of a guy who has 3 PhDs and shares the same opinion as me, watch it, you can believe him because of the PhD."

He refuses to actually form his own opinion based on facts and reasoning, he needs to believe a guy that he respects. He has grown up with the government/mainstream truth and will defend it till he dies. Better listen to retards like Penn and Teller or whatever these jokes are named and "debunk" everything. They are like "hey, everyone has seen those retarded videos of UFOs, it's all BULLSHIT. Here - we built a model and trew it in the air and took two pictures, they look real but they are not! UFOs Debunked!!!". That's why I won't bother arguing with palak, he simply does not know how to think crytically and form his own opinion. Sorry for the harsh words, palak, but you know it is true.



... Jimmies Rustled

Eveything you have said applies much more to yourself than Palak. You, D_smarts_S, are the one who is 100% locked in your belief.
I know you are going to ignore this post, as you ignored every one of Palaks perfect rebuttals of your conspiracy theory baby-nonsense.

Your thinking is incredibly flawed, biased, and you are reaching false conclusions becasue of it. You are exactly the kind of person I'd like to have at the poker table: so sure that he is right, so badly broken in his thought process.

The scientific method is the most succesful approach to knowledge so far invented. It's strength is not based on building up proof, but in falsification. Unless a theory is falsifiable, it is useless. A scientist invents a theory, then he set out to try to Disprove it. If everyone fails to disprove it, It is accepted, for now. But, just like religion cannot be falsified, so too, there is nothing that could falsify these conspriacy theories, is there? It maybe is true that there are 4th dimensionl reptiles living among us. But it might also be true that there are 4th dimensional seaslugs, have you seen how oily that politicians skin is? or 4th dimonsional {any other animal}. or a telepathic teapot in low earth orbit might be controlling world leaders. Or you are living in the matrix and neo is trying to wake you up. and any number of 100 billion other unfalsifiable theories that distract you from living life and getting anything real done. You can find the kind of weak "evidence" that you trust for any of these.

You can't even reply to one of Palaks' posts, point by point. He has colon-crucified you every time, and you just ignore, ignore, ignore.

But why am I posting logically. There is nothing to make better here.

Back to trolling ITT!


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 12:05. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 10:36 palak wrote:
Really cant wait til August 13th
Also didn't think it would take needing explanation why I say a show which says things like: the pyramids were powering orbital space crafts, the mayans thought 2012 was the end of the world, or
Show nested quote +



But how bout u list ur 3 favorite ancient alien episodes and this weekend I'll watch them and post a factual analysis of them.


I see no problem with that quote. Not saying it is true but somehow posible. It is totally out of what we consider ordinary, but I'm way passed that point as you can see. I'm not here to debunk Ancient Aliens, the serie is interesting and present unknown info to most people, they present intereting facts and "crazy" conclusions, period. Conclusions considered "crazy" by the popular idea, or as you said, disgustingly innacurate cause it conflicts with the mainstream science theories, but that doesnt mean those conclusions are imposible. Anyway, like I said, the info presented in the serie is interesting and you dont have to agree with the Conspiracy Theorists or anyone commenting of the serie, scientist or not.

I'm indeed looking foward to the London Games. If nothing happens, great, I was wrong! And I will probably have to publictly apologize for bothering the LP community with this matter.

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tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 12:10. Posts 2140

Trying my best english here, let me know if I dont make sense.


palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 12:23. Posts 4601

The show isn't disgustingly inaccurate cuz of what it presents but because of what it doesn't. It gives a one sided point of view that is so biased and empty in terms of factual content and discussion that it is more fiction than fact. For example claiming and talking about thebMayans predicting the world to end in 2012 without showing or discussing all the evidence that the Mayans didnt think it was the end of the world or egyptian rocks they says were cut with lasers without ppl saying what evidence there is that the rocks were cut with stone or metal tools.

As for ur English it's "series" not "serie". I can't recall anytime that u have actually said anything in english that was drastically incorrect not understandable...just minor grammar errors b/c English is the shittiest language on the planet for writing.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 12:43. Posts 4019


  On June 15 2012 11:10 tutz wrote:
Trying my best english here, let me know if I dont make sense.



You haven't made any sense since the day you joined LP, possibly earlier. The only small reptilian in this thread hides in D_umbas_S pants. Lucky for us, the only plausible person he can impregnate is Titz. Oh btw, how is your girlfriend taking your bulshit Titz? Can we have your girlfriend in the well on LP? Would be awesome.


dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 15 2012 12:44. Posts 1779

tutz u dodged my question


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 12:54. Posts 2140

Wtf ppl keep asking me of my personal life when it is not what is being discussed. I already answered that before, so I will just copy/paste here the quote:

 
On June 13 2012 16:35 tutz wrote:
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On June 13 2012 16:14 bigredhoss wrote:
tutz do you talk with your g/f about these ideas you have? if yes what does she think about them.



yes we do! a lot actualy. she have seem/read almost everything I have, I showed it to her in the most part. she enjoys learning about this different theories, sometimes she even look up some interesting stuff online and tells me about it and we discuss. she lived in india for 2 years, used to be a yoga teacher there besides being a model, she have done vipassana 4 times in her life, anyway she is a really cool/positive mind person, vibrations, power of the mind and toughts, etc. she thinks it is totally posible, but she doesnt have her mind made up for any specific theory of creation, god or anything really. she says there are too many posibilities and we as humans know nothing for certain about this endless universe we live. she says that all bad things that have ever happened in history have happened because one thinks one knows more or is better than other. anyway, this is going too deep.

summing up what she thinks: do good to other people, take all negative things/toughts away from your life, that how she is about everything. she know I'm in this online poker forum trying to do some good but told me that whenever it starts becoming a negative discussion I should stop it and move on. she understands me, and she doesnt think I'm crazy. to be honest, I could change my mind tomorrow about this, really. I'm not locked with any fixed ideas. but as of right now this seems to be very fucking true to me.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 12:59. Posts 2140

about my friends I talk about this things with my closest friends only, they are all cool and open minded with me so I'm really glad to have them as friends, besides other qualities. I don't go deeper into this much tough except with my girl. my personal life have nothing to do with this, but I must say I'm very happy about pretty much any aspect of my life.


cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 13:05. Posts 4019

Has it ever occurred to you that, albeit good intentions, you are actually a plague in this forum and destroying it ? One D_umbas_S is enough as is. Every post you make you are sawing the branch you are sitting on, digging the hole you are in deeper. Your girlfriend is probably keeping you relatively sane ( compared to D_umbas_S who is beyond help ) and you should appreciate her more instead of trying to troll her with stupid pranks.


cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 13:06. Posts 4019

Unless, of course, lizards are controlling your brain. In which case i suggest wearing a tin foiled hat.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 13:26. Posts 2140

Hey cariadon,

You should focus building a better self instead of focusing your time on bashing and attacking others, I really think it would make you a happier person. Peace buddy


taco   Iceland. Jun 15 2012 13:34. Posts 1793


  On June 15 2012 12:26 tutz wrote:
You should focus building a better self instead of focusing your time on bashing and attacking others, I really think it would make you a happier person. Peace buddy



Says the dude that has been accusing people of literally being lizards/reptilians?
I'm not sure since I don't read a lot of the retarded posts in this thread but I'm guessing you've been doing that.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 13:39. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 12:34 taco wrote:
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Says the dude that has been accusing people of literally being lizards/reptilians?
I'm not sure since I don't read a lot of the retarded posts in this thread but I'm guessing you've been doing that.


I'm not saying people are lizards, I'm saying we (humans) are basically controled by reptile aliens in almost every way. That is not the same of bashing or making others feel worse about themselves. It is just how I see the world.

 Last edit: 15/06/2012 13:40

2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 15 2012 14:16. Posts 1387

A couple of wishes:

-To everyone that hasn't (especially those of you who believe in reptilian alien mind control, etc.), please consider exposing yourself to some actually useful information. I recommend some of the really fun and interesting videos by CrashCourse on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/crashcourse

The most accessible / fun videos are the World History videos. I'd start from video 1. They are all golden.

Learning a little more about how the world has changed over the years might open your eyes a bit to actually thinking about useful things and gaining some rational understanding of the world around you.

-To everyone, plz stop posting in this fucking thread unless you sincerely believe in ancient aliens and lizard people. All you do by posting in it is promote the view to more vulnerable minds who may come across this pathetic sophistry, this horrible disfigurement of rational thought, these theories promoted by those who wish to profit from the ignorant, mentally ill, or otherwise vulnerable individuals. All you're accomplishing is to help these ideas reach more people by bumping this thread

(I only post in here because its the #1 thread and thus I'm not bumping it )

+-Last edit: 15/06/2012 14:22

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 14:54. Posts 4019

Titz, you should focus on not being a retarded fuck. The only conspiracy i see happening here is Titz and D_umbas_s giggling like girls while trolling everyone. I mean no way can they be serious... can they ?
We have had moderation for less. Are the mods on vacation or something?


cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 14:57. Posts 4019

Were you a good person when you put your pubes in your girlfriends sandwiches or whatever else you did to get some internet fame?


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 14:57. Posts 2140

I'm 100% serious here man. Would love if people would take it more seriously and made their own research even if they end to the conclusion they dont believe on the Reptilian Theory, at least would be an informed conclusion. If anyone is trolling here it seems to be you.


Achoo   Canada. Jun 15 2012 15:04. Posts 1454


Poll: Ban ?
(Vote): Yup, it's getting old
(Vote): No, let him troll

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 15:09. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 13:57 cariadon wrote:
Were you a good person when you put your pubes in your girlfriends sandwiches or whatever else you did to get some internet fame?



Never did that, I put salt on her sandwich and I knew she would take it as a joke. We do pranks with each other all the time, we find it funny and entertaining, but we dont always film it. If you see every prank that I have out on the internet she is always laughing at what I do to her.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 15:16. Posts 2140

Interesting that the Reptilian Theory is so out of what people think to be posible that there are a lot of people here that still think I'm trolling. Funny how the internet work these days...


palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 15:34. Posts 4601

Is that poll for tutz or dsmart? Tutz is fine, dsmart should be gone

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 15:51. Posts 4019

I scrolled through your awful blog to find you have removed the videos. Might it be to hide her embarrassed, confused, nervous and courtesy laughter ?


2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 15 2012 15:56. Posts 1387

TBH I don't get what cariadon's issue is, pretty sure he's on a much faster ban train than anyone else here (and deserve it nearly as much as d_iCan'tType"smart"Here_s)

Can we PLEASE just vote certain users "off the island" and into ban land?


  On June 15 2012 14:34 palak wrote:
Is that poll for tutz or dsmart? Tutz is fine, dsmart should be gone



+-Last edit: 15/06/2012 15:56

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 16:03. Posts 688

Troll-fest is on. It's time the mods stop the offtopic. This thread is about discussing the topic. If you don't like it, why are you here? To troll, of course, not to reason or to discuss. You are not bringing anything to the thread except childish behaivour and trolling. All you trolls just keep bumping and prolonging the duration of this thread. Pathetic attempt at stopping free speech. Oh wait, it's not that you are against free speech, you are only against those with different opinions or those attempting to question the mainstream theory that is just that - a theory. Too much ego...

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech 

Syntax   United States. Jun 15 2012 16:03. Posts 4415


  On June 15 2012 10:36 Silver_nz wrote:
Show nested quote +



... Jimmies Rustled

Eveything you have said applies much more to yourself than Palak. You, D_smarts_S, are the one who is 100% locked in your belief.
I know you are going to ignore this post, as you ignored every one of Palaks perfect rebuttals of your conspiracy theory baby-nonsense.

Your thinking is incredibly flawed, biased, and you are reaching false conclusions becasue of it. You are exactly the kind of person I'd like to have at the poker table: so sure that he is right, so badly broken in his thought process.

The scientific method is the most succesful approach to knowledge so far invented. It's strength is not based on building up proof, but in falsification. Unless a theory is falsifiable, it is useless. A scientist invents a theory, then he set out to try to Disprove it. If everyone fails to disprove it, It is accepted, for now. But, just like religion cannot be falsified, so too, there is nothing that could falsify these conspriacy theories, is there? It maybe is true that there are 4th dimensionl reptiles living among us. But it might also be true that there are 4th dimensional seaslugs, have you seen how oily that politicians skin is? or 4th dimonsional {any other animal}. or a telepathic teapot in low earth orbit might be controlling world leaders. Or you are living in the matrix and neo is trying to wake you up. and any number of 100 billion other unfalsifiable theories that distract you from living life and getting anything real done. You can find the kind of weak "evidence" that you trust for any of these.

You can't even reply to one of Palaks' posts, point by point. He has colon-crucified you every time, and you just ignore, ignore, ignore.

But why am I posting logically. There is nothing to make better here.

Back to trolling ITT!



this for god sakes. close thread. this guy is a joke.

wut wut wut 

traxamillion   United States. Jun 15 2012 16:03. Posts 10468

they came here for the fire club chronic


traxamillion   United States. Jun 15 2012 16:04. Posts 10468

tutz does your girl like anal?


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 16:09. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 14:51 cariadon wrote:
I scrolled through your awful blog to find you have removed the videos. Might it be to hide her embarrassed, confused, nervous and courtesy laughter ?



I removed them a little while after I posted them here, I had no reason to keep them there. But I dont have to explain that to you do I? You can believe or do whatever you want regardless of what I say or how I behave. We dont need to be talking about my personal life.

 Last edit: 15/06/2012 16:16

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 16:11. Posts 2140

I'm not going to answer any questions about my personal life here anymore, thanks for the interest.


Graisseux   Canada. Jun 15 2012 16:35. Posts 474


  On June 15 2012 00:02 Zorglub wrote:
Show nested quote +



I did Here is the simple and quick version: Mass is energy, energy is information, given enough information a nuclear fusion process begins within your head, your head explodes and you become a star. This is what happened to Einstein and many other stars.



Bahahah awesome


Achoo   Canada. Jun 15 2012 16:52. Posts 1454

LOL free speech, wtf are you talking about ?, I'm worried about you son I think you need some rest now ...A reptilian conspiracy LOL, just wanna test to see if people here enjoy your shitty spot or are getting tired of them like I am.... and yeah fuck you you pollute my visual environment, so don't come back with the usual "don't like don't look", it is a community site it's not a fucking free tribune for deranged people like you ...

edit: I'm drunk I meant posts not spots lol

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or notLast edit: 15/06/2012 18:33

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 17:08. Posts 4019


  On June 15 2012 14:09 tutz wrote:
Show nested quote +



Never did that, I put salt on her sandwich and I knew she would take it as a joke. We do pranks with each other all the time, we find it funny and entertaining, but we dont always film it. If you see every prank that I have out on the internet she is always laughing at what I do to her.

I removed them a little while after I posted them here, I had no reason to keep them there. But I dont have to explain that to you do I? You can believe or do whatever you want regardless of what I say or how I behave. We dont need to be talking about my personal life.


Thanks for telling me to go watch a video that you have already removed, Titz.

D_fart_S keep ignoring every post that annihilates your every word. Nice job throwing the classic freedom of speech reference in there. It does not excuse you of not making any sense or your failures to produce comprehensible reasoning.



tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 17:19. Posts 2140

This is basically the reason I did not open a thread about this like D_Smart_S did. I knew it would not result in much good discusion but just hate instead mainly because the theory is totally different than what everyone accepts. It is just imposible to argue the theory from scratch in a forum like this. If anyone wants to know more about this please take a look at my blog, the "Change your ways" entry. Watch the 5 first minutes of the "Soul travelers" (#1 in the list) video, you might get interested in watching the rest.

 Last edit: 15/06/2012 17:22

YoMeR   United States. Jun 15 2012 17:28. Posts 12438


  On June 15 2012 15:04 traxamillion wrote:
tutz does your girl like anal?



i'd like to know the answer to this question as well

eZ Life. 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 17:37. Posts 4019


  On June 15 2012 16:19 tutz wrote:
This is basically the reason I did not open a thread about this like D_Smart_S did. I knew it would not result in much good discusion but just hate instead mainly because the theory is totally different than what everyone accepts. It is just imposible to argue the theory from scratch in a forum like this. If anyone wants to know more about this please take a look at my blog, the "Change your ways" entry. Watch the 5 first minutes of the "Soul travelers" (#1 in the list) video, you might get interested in watching the rest.



Not starting this thread frees you from the written ejaculations that are your posts ? Did you become a better person and wish to withdraw from this thread and disappear into the void like your girlfriend suggested? When all else fails, exit with a statement that puts yourself above others (the in a forum like this part) and have the last word. Very mature or still room to grow as a person ?


Achoo   Canada. Jun 15 2012 17:40. Posts 1454


  On June 15 2012 15:04 traxamillion wrote:
tutz does your girl like anal?



+1, you ought to answer this one.

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 17:42. Posts 688

Moving on topic.



What theories do all of you have about these photographs?

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 15/06/2012 17:42

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 17:51. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 16:37 cariadon wrote:
Show nested quote +



Not starting this thread frees you from the written ejaculations that are your posts ? Did you become a better person and wish to withdraw from this thread and disappear into the void like your girlfriend suggested? When all else fails, exit with a statement that puts yourself above others (the in a forum like this part) and have the last word. Very mature or still room to grow as a person ?


I'm sorry but I couldnt understand half of your post but I see that you insist in bringing my gf to this matter when it is obviously that you shouldnt. Other than that it seems that you are trying to attack me as much as you can, so I have no choice but to ignore you from now on. Peace buddy


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 18:07. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 16:42 D_smart_S wrote:
Moving on topic.



What theories do all of you have about these photographs?



I'm sorry man, even tough I agree with you about the reptilian theory I don't find those kind of youtube videos to be good evidence. Really..

 Last edit: 15/06/2012 18:08

D_smart_S   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2012 18:22. Posts 688

That's fine. I am posting it for discussion. How do you explain his two hands? This is from a newspaper cover page so it's taken with a professional camera and there is nothing wrong or pixelated with any other part of the picture. What is your theory for the way his two hands look?

User was banned for this post.

Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speechLast edit: 15/06/2012 18:23

jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Jun 15 2012 18:28. Posts 2835

But what if the vulturites wants you to believe its the reptilians ??? Ever thought about that??

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 18:35. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 17:28 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:
But what if the vulturites wants you to believe its the reptilians ??? Ever thought about that??



A conspiracy within a conspiracy?


tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 18:37. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 17:22 D_smart_S wrote:
That's fine. I am posting it for discussion. How do you explain his two hands? This is from a newspaper cover page so it's taken with a professional camera and there is nothing wrong or pixelated with any other part of the picture. What is your theory for the way his two hands look?



Well I don't really know, but I can't conclude it is reptilian just because of that picture. Maybe a disease of some kind, really dont know. It is posible it is him shape shifting in some way sure, I just don't like present that as evidence.


Raidern   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 18:47. Posts 4243

I understand that a lot of you don't like this thread (I've been hoping it would fade away quick) and hate the fact that there are people bringing these subjects up. Still, there is no point in bringing Tutz' girlfriend into the discussion. Leave her out of this, she isn't a poster on the forum.

im a regular at nl5Last edit: 15/06/2012 18:48

tutz   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 18:55. Posts 2140


  On June 15 2012 17:47 Raidern wrote:
I understand that a lot of you don't like this thread (I've been hoping it would fade away quick) and hate the fact that there are people bringing these subjects up. Still, there is no point in bringing Tutz' girlfriend into the discussion. Leave her out of this, she isn't a poster on the forum.



thank you very much.
good moding right here


uiCk   Canada. Jun 15 2012 19:34. Posts 3521

i think Idiocracy was the most insightful movie of all time and looks like Mike Judge is the real prophet and his vision of the world seems to be correct. Sad shit.

I mean stupid people would not survive not to long ago. now they multiply and have a powerful tool, internet, to share their stupidity and spread a culture of, stupidity.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike TysonLast edit: 15/06/2012 19:35

player999   Brasil. Jun 15 2012 19:52. Posts 7978


  On June 15 2012 10:25 palak wrote:
6. "There is not 1 single evidence that HIV leads to AIDS!"



lol that is pretty funny (and sad at the same time ) if it's an actual quote

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 21:15. Posts 4019


  On June 15 2012 17:47 Raidern wrote:
I understand that a lot of you don't like this thread (I've been hoping it would fade away quick) and hate the fact that there are people bringing these subjects up. Still, there is no point in bringing Tutz' girlfriend into the discussion. Leave her out of this, she isn't a poster on the forum.



How many similar threads/blogs/posts started by D_umbas_S have been deleted so far?

If you put a ton of salt in your girlfriends sandwich, throw coffee at her naked body and post videos of it on a public forum then in my book you are an idiot and deserve kitchen sinks thrown at you. I asked how his gf was taking his bulshit as an indication to how deep the rabbit hole goes and if there is a possibility of a reality check for Mr.Salty. I was actually one of the first posters who said the pranks are a bad idea and i have openly said his girlfriend deserves better than to be made fun of and posted on this forum. Looking back at what you did Titz how do you rate your pranks on a scale of a good person being 10 and a reptilian being 0 ?


Zep   United States. Jun 15 2012 21:17. Posts 2292


  On June 15 2012 17:22 D_smart_S wrote:
That's fine. I am posting it for discussion. How do you explain his two hands? This is from a newspaper cover page so it's taken with a professional camera and there is nothing wrong or pixelated with any other part of the picture. What is your theory for the way his two hands look?

User was banned for this post.


NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

PoorUser    United States. Jun 15 2012 21:38. Posts 7472

he wasnt banned for that post specifically. that message just came up because that post was used to get to his user profile.

Gambler Emeritus 

uiCk   Canada. Jun 15 2012 22:12. Posts 3521

Victory.




in b4 LP Mods are illuminati reptilians

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 22:18. Posts 4601

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 15 2012 22:34. Posts 2870

I simply don't get it.

1: People are unable to ignore a poster, some magical power forces them to click on his threads and reply even though they are repulsed by his posts and they know it.

2: People are getting mad, offensive even furious at someone because he does not believe the same as they do.

Let me ask you guys:

Does information hurt you? Are you afraid he might be right or what exactly makes you mad? Why does unconventional worldviews/perspectives hurt you, even if it was stupid and obviously false?

I guess this is why religious people fight. I simply don't get how you can be offended because someone percieves things, in a different way than you do. Personally I find it funny and/or inspirering to hear of other ways to percieve reality, depending on the level of logic, credibility and proof.

Pooruser even has a ying/yang symbol, which is quite ironic in the context.

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it leftLast edit: 15/06/2012 23:02

palak   United States. Jun 15 2012 23:01. Posts 4601

I, possibly speaking for many, was not angered by his views. It was his constant insulting of others.

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 15 2012 23:02. Posts 4019

1. You are no different.
2. Mad because the duo is ruining a forum that has given me much.
If you judge this thread by the level of logic, credibility and proof there is nothing inspiring or funny to be found.
I hope your hangover isn't too bad tomorrow Zorglub, cheers !


Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 15 2012 23:08. Posts 2870


  On June 15 2012 22:02 cariadon wrote:
1. You are no different.
2. Mad because the duo is ruining a forum that has given me much.
If you judge this thread by the level of logic, credibility and proof there is nothing inspiring or funny to be found.
I hope your hangover isn't too bad tomorrow Zorglub, cheers !



1: In this context I am different, I usually don't get offended by text and especially not text that isn't trying to offend me
2: How are they ruining anything when you can just choose to ignore their posts?

Even if it isn't funny or inspirering to you, it may be to someone else. cheers!

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left 

taco   Iceland. Jun 16 2012 03:22. Posts 1793


  On June 15 2012 21:34 Zorglub wrote:
Does information hurt you? Are you afraid he might be right or what exactly makes you mad?



Because we as a community are an advertisement to outside communities.

Does our advertisement say "Join a friendly and educational discussion about poker and other topics" or "We are fucking retarded and constantly discuss the most retarded shit in the universe"?

I'll tell you that if I was a business I wouldn't want to use that second advertisement.... do we?

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 03:25

tutz   Brasil. Jun 16 2012 03:48. Posts 2140

edited

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 03:49

Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 16 2012 03:52. Posts 2870

Well if you are the one to decide what I am allowed to discuss in "other topics" in this community, then I would not want to join your community anyway. And I am afraid your business would only be attractive to a certain kind of people, who fancies dictatorships and who needs others to decide and think for themselves.

I started out with nothing and I still got most of it leftLast edit: 16/06/2012 03:56

taco   Iceland. Jun 16 2012 03:57. Posts 1793


  On June 16 2012 02:52 Zorglub wrote:
Well if you are the one to decide what I am allowed to discuss in "other topics" in this community, then I would not want to join your community anyway. And I am afraid your business would only be attractive to a certain kind of people, who fancies dictatorships and who needs others to decide for them.



So you would be fine with people discussing and planning say, kidnapping, torture, abuse and rape of children on this forum?

If you are, there is something seriously wrong with you, if you aren't; Stop acting like I'm being a fascist dictatorship loving hypocrite for wanting to draw a line, since you do too.

Because like you say, if we limit our scope of allowable discussions to exclude the aforementioned we are only attractive to a certain kind of people and being a dictatorship.

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 03:57

tutz   Brasil. Jun 16 2012 04:02. Posts 2140

So you are comparing the offer of a different world view (that doesnt involve hurting anyone) with children molestation? lol
I agree with Zorglub 100%


RaiNKhAN    United States. Jun 16 2012 04:08. Posts 4080

i would throw tutz's cat off a three story building just to prove they land on their hind legs

The biggest Rockets, Sixers, and Grizzlies fan you will ever meet! 

taco   Iceland. Jun 16 2012 04:14. Posts 1793


  On June 16 2012 03:02 tutz wrote:
So you are comparing the offer of a different world view (that doesnt involve hurting anyone) with children molestation? lol
I agree with Zorglub 100%



Please don't act this stupid.

If someone implies, or pretty much outright says that it should be perfectly fine for anyone to discuss anything in the 'Other topics' section
and I point out that it so obviously should not you're going to make the silly "Oh you're comparing this to literally Hitler?" comment?
Oh wait that's what you just did.


It's beneath you to be this illogical, even for a man who believes in reptilian overlords.


tutz   Brasil. Jun 16 2012 04:23. Posts 2140

wtf but that is what you did, you compared:

 
So you would be fine with people discussing and planning say, kidnapping, torture, abuse and rape of children on this forum?



am I missing something? why did you brought children molestation up in the first place?


taco   Iceland. Jun 16 2012 04:31. Posts 1793


  On June 16 2012 03:23 tutz wrote:
wtf but that is what you did, you compared:
Show nested quote +


am I missing something? why did you brought children molestation up in the first place?


When someone says or implies that absolutely fucking anything is possible and you demonstrate with an example that that's simply not true
it doesn't fucking matter at all what example you used now does it?

I brought up 'the discussion and planning of the kidnapping, etc, of children' to demonstrate that there clearly should be a 'dictatorship' that selects what topics can be discussed
in 'Other topics'. Am I being clear or do I need to use more expletives?

Also while we're on the subject of logic: Reptilian fucking overlords?

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 04:32

Namaste   Germany. Jun 16 2012 04:46. Posts 2

Can the mod at least say why Dsmart was banned? He posted only one rough message 4 pages ago and it was much more mellow compared to carladon or one of the other trolls? Was he banned for presenting a theory neutrally that people wanted discussed in the first place? Was he banned because someone doesn't want his views challenged and wanted to slip back into his narrow-minded hole? Are the mods actually taking example from Obama and making certain topics forbidden to be talked about and basically establishing virtual dictatorship? Does LP promote trolling but not discussion? Does LP users want mods who treat them unfairly and ban anyone who presents a different opinion or tries to challenge their belief systems?Why was the ban permanent? Did he kill someone or did he just killed someone's belief system? I don't see one message saying the reason why he was banned at all, and why is it a permanent ban. Thanks. I hope I don't get banned.

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 05:15

taco   Iceland. Jun 16 2012 04:59. Posts 1793


  On June 16 2012 03:46 Namaste wrote:
Why was the ban permanently?



Who but the moderators and D_Smart_S would know at this point that this ban was permanent, if it was?

Hello again D_smart_S.


brambolius   Netherlands. Jun 16 2012 06:22. Posts 1708

lolollo

Heat......EXTEND 

Namaste   Germany. Jun 16 2012 07:38. Posts 2


  On June 15 2012 20:38 PoorUser wrote:
he wasnt banned for that post specifically. that message just came up because that post was used to get to his user profile.



I can't find anything in the rules that qualify this ban as "by the rules of the forum". I think I smell that a few troll-friends asked you or some other mod to do it.

So I have this message on my home page "Your account has been banned. Check your private messages for more information"

So I listened to the advice and checked my messages and this is all the info, no reason:

From: LP.net Bot
Posts: 136
Subject: Permanently banned 2012-6-15
Date: 6/15 20:09
Banned on: 2012-6-15 20:09:35

It would be a shame if LP has mods who ban for personal reasons. If it is to be considered a public forum rather than a personal forum, it has to follow the rules in the rules section. If the mod who banned me can show me the rule and explain the reason I was perma-banned I would be happy.

User was banned for this post.

 Last edit: 16/06/2012 07:51

brambolius   Netherlands. Jun 16 2012 10:15. Posts 1708

Somehow i feel kinda bad for him now lol

Heat......EXTEND 

Roald   Tuvalu. Jun 16 2012 12:11. Posts 2683

As far as I am concerned, the ban legitimizes dsmart's claims. Here is a similar story http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/neverseconds-shut-down/

My point is that when you're right, the establishment tends to shut you down. Another example that is well known http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus

We can chalk this up as another victory for the lizard people but they know in their heart of hearts that some day we will rise up

drugs, animals, children are welcome -Xavier 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 16 2012 12:34. Posts 4019


  On June 15 2012 22:08 Zorglub wrote:
Show nested quote +



1: In this context I am different, I usually don't get offended by text and especially not text that isn't trying to offend me
2: How are they ruining anything when you can just choose to ignore their posts?

Even if it isn't funny or inspirering to you, it may be to someone else. cheers!


1. You are no different because you just had to make a post yourself. Double standards? Hypocrisy?
2. You are right in identifying that i am mad but my reasons are not what you stated but the content the duo has contributed to this forum.
Contrary to what you are implying this forum remains a democracy and under such rule we, the majority, can agree to well... put you in jail or in D_smart_S case sentenced to worse.

I kept quiet for some time but it is my duty as a poster to express how i feel about matters that affect myself and the well-being of LP. I was also against the official boobs thread for which i got a lot of hate for. I gave them, as i am trying now to give you the benefit of the doubt because from what i can remember you were reasonable in another discussion and older than me. I kind of get what you are saying but you are not expressing it in the best possible way.

P.S. + Show Spoiler +


Zep   United States. Jun 16 2012 14:32. Posts 2292


  On June 16 2012 06:38 Namaste wrote:
Show nested quote +

I think I smell that a few troll-friends asked you or some other mod to do it.

This statement alone should alarm people as to the psychopath we are dealing with. It's one thing to speculate on the origins of the Illuminati, it's another to speculate on EVERY piece of information out there like d_umbas_s did. if you go back and read his responses to people, you will see he is trying to read between the lines on everything everyone wrote against his arguments. It's scary and comes across as completely disrespectful.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

Achoo   Canada. Jun 16 2012 14:46. Posts 1454

0wned bitch.

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

Zep   United States. Jun 16 2012 14:54. Posts 2292

There lies a hypocritical flaw in d_umbas_s' point of view in regards to free speech that I feel needs to be addressed. You can't go around advocating for the right of free speech while at the same time stating such things as:

“If you are uninterested in this and do not want to spend your time reading it, please exit the thread now. This thread will take up no more than an inch by half an inch virtual space in the General Section of this forum so I believe those of you who are uninterested in discussing it will have an easy time skipping this virtual space designated for discussing the topic itself.”

In other words, if you are offended or disagree with what I am saying, skip over it and do not disrupt the discussion that is taking place. That is the exact opposite of freedom of expression. You can't just say, what I am posting is unpopular, but because of freedom of speech you have to listen to it and can't respond in anyway. Keep this in mind: There will always be a free market response. If you advocate for the freedom of expression while disrespecting those intending to use it, then you're going to have the brutal backlash that he did which led to people trolling and telling him to fuck off. I always advocated for d_umbas_s' freedom to express what he was attempting to say. The problem was he was not posting material in an appropriate part of the site. The material he was writing was really appropriate for a blog, and a blog only. That's what I told him he should do, and that's what I expressed towards the mods what they should do.

I really am disappointed in the mods on this one. I think they should have either done this months ago or they should have warned him to post the material in a blog and blog only. This is terrible accountability by the mods, and I hope they recognize it and change.

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2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 16 2012 15:55. Posts 1387

I would prefer that d_smart_s got some official warning beforehand, though I honestly wouldn't expect it to be prevent him from posting. And he may of gotten warning in private -- don't know all the facts. OH not to mention it might serve as a decent warning with every other post in your last several threads is purely a call for you to be banned LOL

In the last couple of weeks there has been a complete lack of compassion toward d_smart_s, on my part as well, but its a fact that life (even if its 'just forum life') that people aren't always friendly and others will not forever tolerate bad or disrespectful behavior -- even if said behavior is at least partly the result of factors outside of someone's direct control. Plus this isn't a conspiracy theory forum :O

I sincerely hope that d_smart_s considers visiting a mental health professional and discussing his world view frankly and with an open mind toward the professional's input.

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Mortensen8   Chad. Jun 16 2012 16:35. Posts 1845

The problem with something like this is that its based on very little. I'll defend your right to believe in it and talk about it but it makes us all look crazy to the average person which is why I think it is a disinformation tactic. I hear people talking about some history channel show and that should tell you everything it is in mainstream television. Even if these beings existed bringing them to the attention of people would not really do anything.

Excellent points discussed in this video and talks about the fallacies of this theory as well.

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Zorglub   Denmark. Jun 16 2012 20:24. Posts 2870



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cariadon   Estonia. Jun 16 2012 22:57. Posts 4019


player999   Brasil. Jun 16 2012 23:43. Posts 7978


  On June 16 2012 19:24 Zorglub wrote:


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the name of the song is wrong

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brambolius   Netherlands. Jun 17 2012 07:44. Posts 1708

Ok, so, if the guy was banned for starting these kind of threads, why isn't this locked yet ? Are we having a wake or something ?

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2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 17 2012 08:20. Posts 1387

It was getting pretty far down the forum until you bumped it brah

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brambolius   Netherlands. Jun 17 2012 11:38. Posts 1708

uhm...no it was like 3rd as it is now....

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2c0ntent   Egypt. Jun 17 2012 15:48. Posts 1387

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