Getting a gun - Page 3

I am definitely PRO-guns. Most of u guys dont live here so you will never experience robbery but things get worse every year and these fuckers are fucking animals. get a bunch of sick guns with unlimited ammo and just make sure u know all the laws about procedure incase someone does break in that way when you kill him you don't get put in prison for shooting them in the back or whatever. The way I see it is they've already decided that they have to go all-in with life so you can't just let them get away with that otherwise he is going to keep robbing more people if you were an easy mark. also i think if you shoot him you should really just put the fucker down for good and execute him in a way that is consistent with how the whole robbery took place once u guys exchange fire. make sure he dies badly

- khan

You sound like you get robbed every other week?

lol murica

loool

On November 09 2012 07:01 okyougosu wrote:

fyp.

Seriously, the answer to being robbed is insurance, not defense. No matter the circumstances if my house ever got broken into I would fucking stand aside and let them take whatever they want, calling the police if possible. If you gave me a gun and guarantee'd shoot them everytime with no repurcussions to me I don't fucking take it, I just leave.

On November 09 2012 01:15 Nazgul wrote: I'm one of those who think a thief will be more eager to shoot you when you have a gun and that the % of endangering your family becomes larger with waving a gun around, this topic makes me feel out of place. Also not of the belief that breaking into someones house warrants death. It kind of makes sense for people living in the country with nobody around.

My father has been a hunter all his life and we always had guns in the house. I felt the same about them as you do, until my father got almost killed and the fact that my mother was carrying a 357 saved his life.

Where I live the dumb government has made it pretty much impossible to carry a gun legally, but every teenage crook carries a gun illegally

I used to have a shotgun in the house, but I borrowed it to my brother a couple of years ago, and the swapped it with somebody. still pissed about it. 2 or 3 years ago at about 9pm a bullet went thru the window of my daughters room. she was watching tv on the bed, we where in the room next door, and it sounded like somebody would have hit a huge hammer against the wall. i rushed to the room. bullet went thru window, some aluminum, then left a small hole in the wall. i found the lead bullet on the floor and like 2 days later i found the metal jacket of the bullet somewhere else in the room. we live on a 9th floor, and the living area isn't even considered that bad for local standards. We where all really nervous that night, and i didn't have the shotgun anymore in that time, so my wife made me sleep behind the entrance door with a loaded speargun.

On November 08 2012 23:53 thewh00sel wrote: Some good advice so far. Considering ccw in the future to keep in the vehicle/on me but until I get some practice I doubt I would go that route...Shotguns from what I've seen are very cheap, more than pistols even, so I don't see why I couldn't consider both. Just seems like one of those counter-intuitive things I guess, where you assume a pistol is a better starter weapon than a shotgun since it's smaller, but I guess a shotgun is more reliable/easier to use in a moment of need. Good stuff LP! Also in regard to the 9mm vs .40, I want something that my wife can shoot as well. And although it packs less punch I think the recoil of anything bigger would scare her away from trying it more than once at the range.

As someone who has done a lot of research on which weapon is the best for home protection...there is no question that the shotgun is the best. Honestly I would snag a shotgun for home defense and a handgun for a future CCW.

im surprised grenades still havent been mentionned
theyre effective and surprisingly cheap

I was slightly expecting "OUR FREEDOMS BEING GIVEN TO ANOTHER BASE!!!"

But I didn't read that. Kudos.

This thread makes Canada as good as Canada says Canada is, God Bless Canada, maple leafs and beavers, igloos and hockey. Canada.

are shotgun bullets better than handgun bullets at ricocheting?

I suppose the relationship between owning a gun and dying by gunfire probably has a lot to do with the fact that no training is required to own one. It's like saying car owners are more likely to die by auto accident than non-car owners. Now imagine if no license was required to drive. Regardless, all this talk about the .01% opportunity you will ever need to use one really comes down to whether or not you want to live in the .01% zone. I've seen a lot of fucked up videos on the internet, videos of people dying, being slaughtered, set on fire, mutilated and so forth. The shit is real and this shit happens every day. Somebody out there right now is going to have their throat slit or their head chopped off or their entrails eviscerated, etc. I just dont want to be that guy on the police tape who was killed because I just happened to step in the way of some maniac. Truth be told, it probably would increase the liklihood of getting shot if I tried to shoot an assailant. Afterall we both have the same goal of self-preservation. What else is he going to do when I pull a gun on him? Especially if he has the upper hand. But at the same time I have also seen countless videos of people being shot for no apparent reason whatsoever. So I simply try to remain vigilant. Make sure nobody can just sneak up on me and take me out, and maintain a constant level of suspicious alertness.

Basically I just dont like the idea of entrusting my safety to the fate of the universe, and simply saying "today I hope I dont die because I intend to do nothing to protect myself".

So far I don't really follow just about any of the reasoning for owning a gun.

Why doesn't the pro gun crowd ever just come out and say guns look cool, guns are fun to shoot, guns makes me feel powerful and better about myself?

On November 09 2012 18:01 RiKD wrote: Why doesn't the pro gun crowd ever just come out and say guns look cool, guns are fun to shoot, guns makes me feel powerful and better about myself?

i thought that part was just assumed

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No?

I actually thing getting a gun is one of the most retarded thing to do, only make you in danger, someone get into your house to steal, if he has a gun, and see you with a gun, what will happen? hes gona be scared for his life as much as you, and shootings will happens,
what you want to do is keep these people out
i dont see people going into your house when a big dog guard it when a shit tons of others house can/will be easier to get into
+ dogs are good for families
hugging one reduce stress and all
its good for your wife when you are not home, shes gona feel better with a big dog than a gun hidded somewhere + dont feel alone
good for your kid too, dogs can be very protective of kids/families + fun for your kid ;o)
dogs brings tons of positiv stuff
kind of a job but worth it
you can train your dog to attack too, like any cop's dog... its way harder to fight a 130 pounds dog than a 250 pounds human...

posted a german shepherd pic but obv shit tons of diff dog can do the job

don't have to feed a gun tho

I figure this story is worth mentioning:

During my time in Thailand it was about 9pm on a Wednesday and i start to hear some screaming in my apartment building.

At first i thought it was just some drunken revelry, but it continued and became more distressed.

At this point, I stood up from my desk and opened the door to the hallway so i could hear better, I heard more anguished screaming.

Armed with nothing but my boxer shorts and t-shirt I walked down the hall to find the location of the screams. As i walked down the hallway a number of people were peeking out their doorways, but no one joined me.

I entered the stairwell of the building, looked over the handrail to the level below and saw a Thai guy savagely beating his GF who was in the fetal position on the stairs.

So, at this point i knew i had to break up the fight. So i yelled as hard as i could "OI" to create a distraction. He (she did too) looked up at me, and we all froze in a moment of time. I did nothing more than posture myself, there was no aggression and i didnt need to strike back.

By this point a couple of other people had left their apartment to see what was happening and a couple of Thai people interevened. One man and one women, They seperated the couple and walked them away from eachother for a bit to cool down.

I didnt do anything that I considered heroic. In fact I did what i think anyone should have done in that situation. Investigated what was happening and defused the situation with minimal danger to myself and everyone else. There was no need for me to fly down the stairs and try and kick the guys head in.

What was more concerning was what I heard people say shortly afterwards when i told them this story. I was told that "I shouldnt get involved" because this is normal for Thai people, and that "I risked getting beaten up by the man and his friends" for "getting involved"

The level of cowardliness amazed me. Its easy to excuse doing whats right by coming up with excuses of what "could" happen.

Now lets imagine I had a gun in that situation and that i lent over the handrail and pointed it at the guys dome. Do you really think that was going to help the situation?

Should i have been concerned that when i yelled at the guy over the handrail he was going to pull out a gun and shoot me?

Plenty of guns floating around in Thailand and plenty of guys on methamphetamine wielding them.

The point is this, dont live your life thinking you need a shooter to protect yourself. A little common sense and restraint will keep you safe.

Invest in some good locks and an alarm system if youre worried for your childs safety, but seriously, from the bottom of my heart, dont risk her life by bringing a gun into the house.

Wh00sel ive always thought you were one of the smartest guys on LP and your blog pretty much confirms it. Youre in control and working hard. However this blog post is depressing. I cant help but feel that this would be a bigger mistake than when you bought the GT-R.