UFC 154: St-Pierre vs. Condit

Date: Saturday, November 17th
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 17:30 LP.net / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (FX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card Time (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card

Georges St-Pierre (22-2) vs. Carlos Condit (28-5) (Welterweight Championship)
Martin Kampmann (20-5) vs. Johny Hendricks (13-1) (Welterweight)
Francis Carmont (19-7) vs. Tom Lawlor (8-4) (Middleweight)
Nick Ring (13-1) vs. Costa Philippou (11-2) (Middleweight)
Mark Hominick (20-11) vs. Pablo Garza (11-3) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Patrick Cote (17-8) vs. Alessio Sakara (15-9) (Middleweight)
Cyrille Diabate (18-8-1) vs. Chad Griggs (11-2) (Light Heavyweight)
Mark Bocek (11-4) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (17-6) (Lightweight)
Sam Stout (18-7-1) vs. John Makdessi (9-2) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

Antonio Carvalho (14-5) vs. Rodrigo Damm (10-5) (Featherweight)
Matthew Riddle (6-3) vs. John Maguire (18-4) (Welterweight)
Ivan Menjivar (24-9) vs. Azamat Gashimov (7-1) (Bantamweight)
Steven Siler (21-9) vs. Darren Elkins (14-2) (Featherweight)

Other

- GSP vs. Condit will unify the Welterweight belts.
- Kampmann vs. Hendricks a title eliminator bout. (the winner is next in line to fight for the belt)
- Fabio Maldonado was briefly linked to a bout with Cyrille Diabate at the event. However, Maldonado lost to Glover Teixeira on October 13th, 2012 at UFC 153, replacing an injured Quinton Jackson. Diabate is now slated to face Chad Griggs at the event.
- Stephen Thompson was expected to face Besam Yousef at the event. However, Thompson was forced out of the bout with a knee injury and was replaced by Matthew Riddle. Yousef was then forced out with injury, and replaced by John Maguire.

GSP > Condit (Should be a sick fight, and GSP's toughest fight to date. Condit is the epitome of a #1 contender who can legitimately win the belt, unlike other contenders who only offer 1 scary skill like boxing, wrestling, or BJJ.)
Kampmann > Hendricks (Hendricks hasn't proven anything to me yet, he won via split-decision vs. Pierce and Koscheck + lucky punch vs. Fitch. Hendricks offers the same skill set to GSP that Koscheck does.)
Carmont > Lawlor (Lawlor is kewl, but he only got on the main card cuz of Carmont, who is bigger/stronger with similar skill set.)
Philippou > Ring (Philippou is the superior boxer and has good TDD + better gas tank. Ring is basic and gases.)
Hominick > Garza (Who the fuck even knows nowadays with Hominick. Kid went on tilt after his trainer died, but I picked Yagin to beat him, which he did, and now he fights Garza, who's biggest threat is BJJ, which is where Hominick is weak.)
Sakara > Cote
Griggs > Diabate
Bocek > dos Anjos
Stout > Makdessi
Damm > Carvalho
Riddle > Maguire
Menjivar > Gashimov
Elkins > Siler

No way condit could beat GSP, at least is GSP returns in his old shape and doesnt try new things, i dont see condit avoiding the wrestlefuck.


Seeing wrestler promising more exiting fights lately GSP included is scary for betting tho, Franklin already lost a very easy fight because of that.

i wish i wrote myself a note a year ago that said "Dear Daut, do not buy into any hype that you hear on condit or against gsp. gsp is the perfect style to mash condit and condit has no chance. please just take advantage of bookies giving way better lines than previous gsps fights because he hasnt fought in 18 months and bet the house on him" unfortunately i wrote no such note because now i have lost all confidence in the bet. In the first episode of primetime gsp says "I came back to training and I wasnt the same, i was losing to guys who never challenged me before and people were looking at me like id never be the same again" dont know how i can trust in him after i hear him say that.

i will still probably bet a little on gsp, but just not gonna go buckwild at -350.


as for the other fights, the only one i have penciled at this point is sam stout. most of the others seem like the lines are close or the fight can go either way. i think stout is going to outclass makdessi who is garbage. im gonna peek around at what the twitterverse has to say but at this point i dont see any other very clear edge

^ I'd wait a few days to see if the lines shift, but if they do, I'd also take Carmont and Philippou to win.

no way condit will win this.-300 is fine imo.

im kinda with you, but their lines are just so lopsided. i guess i can see carmont winning 75%+ and philippou 70%+ but im not super confident in those odds.

if theres ever a time to capitalize on fading gsp now would be it imo. you have someone who has been dying to fight gsp whose last match was a decisive win vs a big name in nick diaz compared to someone who signed with 888poker and is doing god knows what the last few years with his free time. if gsp loses and still continues to fight all of the lines will be much lower and tougher to make plays on. i cant say that condit will win through pure fight* analysis but I think hes a pretty sick mma fighter with some nice results and the ability to finish/big gas tank. also, whenever anyone gets into gambling sponsorships it always messes up their main profession so its a nice angle to plug in when deciding to tail or fade a particular fighter

why the hell is kampmann a dogg he has looked so good

anytime the top guys start going down on themselves i see it only as a way to hype the fight up cause if he talks 100% confident the lines are gonna suck ass -- anytime gsp is like 'ya this is gonna be the toughest fight in my life' i just think 'omg he is gonna rape so hard' lol. in this case coming back from such a big injury and getting manhandled at the gym for a while should be super normal as u get rusty but he mentions that if he didn't feel ready he would call dana and cancel but he didn't...

this should be a tougher match than his last few - more strategical from both sides but gsp is gsp imo

Yea I think GSP will fuck him up. I still think it was a highly suspicious call from the judges which got Condit here, he looked really questionable against Rory Macdonald and was really close to losing a decision, knocking out Hardy isn't exactly the most impressive thing either and while his knee against Kim Dong-Hyun was super cool it's not something I see him hitting against GSP.

I'm thinking GSP might actually finish him, but that's just a feeling.

Good card overall. Rooting for Kampmann who in my opinion is one of the most exciting fighters in the welterweight division. Heart says him, brain is not decided. Other then that:

Carmont > Lawlor Carmont should win I guess but he did not look good in Sweden so I'm not all all certain about this fight.
Philippou > Ring Philippou is on a roll, not a big fan of either fighter.
Hominick > Garza Hominick should
Sakara > Cote
Griggs > Diabate
Bocek > dos Anjos
Stout > Makdessi
Damm > Carvalho
Riddle > Maguire
Menjivar > Gashimov
Elkins > Siler

All I know is that every time there has been even a slight inkling of doubt involving GSP losing, GSP has come in and destroyed whoever was put in front of him. I can't see any reason to doubt him for this fight.

"I came back to training and I wasnt the same, i was losing to guys who never challenged me before and people were looking at me like id never be the same again" dont know how i can trust in him after i hear him say that.
You can trust in him because this happening probably meant it just made him even more determined to become even better than he was before.

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Things we know about GSP returning to MMA

- GSP is one of the smartest, if not the smartest MMA fighter of all time.
- He wouldn't return to MMA after being on the sideline for 18.5 months, rehabbing his knee, if he wasn't 100% ready.
- He doesn't have to worry about money, and there's no way he felt pressure from the UFC to defend his title, especially since he is supposed to defend it at least 1 time a year and he hasn't defended it in 18.5 months and was never stripped of the title.
- It makes for a great story if he talks about "how he felt like he was at the lowest point in his career, how nobody thought he'd come back, and they saw him as damaged goods." That's the equivalent of someone being the champion for years and then losing the title, only to rebuild himself and win the title back. The audience eats sad stories like that up, and feeds off of it.
- Did you see how confident GSP looked in his promo video? When was the last time we ever saw GSP make a banana-grin smile? It was when he was in the jacuzzi with the 3 random groupies as well as another random groupie grinding on his dick in a dance club, probably hoping to get butt fucked by the champ.
- In conclusion, GSP is smart, one of the best athletes in all of MMA, adapts to every fight, doesn't worry about money, isn't being hassled to fight on a certain date, is now returning to MMA on his own free will.

p.s. I hope Condit doesn't fight dirty and do front/side kicks to the knee of GSP, which is now popular thanks to Jon Jones and I think Anderson also has done it. GSP already said that he hopes Condit tries to attack his knee, which makes me think he's been working on the fast take down to counter that.

As much as I was OK with Condit beating Diaz w/ superior cardio and slightly out scoring, if he takes the title away from GSP the same way it's gonna be sad and bad for MMA.

^ No way that would happen. GSP is too smart for that, especially since he's seen it happen to someone else. GSP never does the same mistake twice. Also, the fight is in Canada, no way GSP would lose a close decision, let alone lose to someone backpedaling the whole fight.

The only way Condit will win is if he finishes GSP within 2 rounds via TKO.

Im gonna put whats left of my sb roll after the Franklin fiasco on GSP.

Not too excited fot the card though some decent fights but nothing that gets me pumped to see it.

"The 15-year-old UG Nazi hacker known as Cosmo* or Cosmo the God was sentenced in juvenile court on Wednesday in Long Beach, California."

must be the same guy from LP 100%

I'm going to see it at the Centre Bell with a bunch of friends, should be a blast!

On November 11 2012 21:27 Oddeye wrote: I'm going to see it at the Centre Bell with a bunch of friends, should be a blast!

Take some pics and make a blog about your experience!

On November 11 2012 20:23 Zadan wrote: "The 15-year-old UG Nazi hacker known as Cosmo* or Cosmo the God was sentenced in juvenile court on Wednesday in Long Beach, California." must be the same guy from LP 100%

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