Your worst downswing experience? - Page 4

i dont really know that much about u ...but sounds to me most likely u just fell off.

i see a lot of ppl who used to be very good who arent doing well nowadays.

ket already made the obvious point. u have to constantly adapt your strategy due to the evolving nature of the games.

On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: i guess its my word against yours, but im inclined to believe my self due to my 8million hand database showing me that i was clearly a huge winner and now suddenly breakeven after blackfriday.

this mindset is the reason why the games will always be good. losing/breakeven players have a tendency to rationalize their losses away rather than looking inward when things go poorly for them and then argue that when things r going well for someone else that "they are just running hot" ... lol

On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: neither of you have enough hands so make those claims. i dont have much zoom hands, but 510 is very very tough compared to 2 years ago either A. everyone else who claims games who are tougher are wrong, i.e me or B. locoo and stroggoz are wrong and are simply running hot

Nvm you are probably right

On November 19 2012 20:04 MARSHALL28 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: i guess its my word against yours, but im inclined to believe my self due to my 8million hand database showing me that i was clearly a huge winner and now suddenly breakeven after blackfriday. this mindset is the reason why the games will always be good. losing/breakeven players have a tendency to rationalize their losses away rather than looking inward when things go poorly for them and then argue that when things r going well for someone else that "they are just running hot" ... lol

holy shit, do you even know who i am??
im not some random who started breaking even, i've stayed at the top for 5 years and constasntly changing and improving. you make it sound like im some random who knows nothing about improving. Yes new players come out of the woodwork and overtake the older generation of players, but thats not whats happening. Very very few players are winning in today's games.

Who are you to talk about my mindset? Do you have any idea how tough i am mentally? You actually think i am a lazy person when it comes to poker?? You are talking about one of the few players who has SNE for 5 years in a row.. I have one of the largest database to back up my claims, do the people who claim to win have that?

I think i am one of the most qualified people to speak on the toughness of the games for the past 5 years as i've constantly been one of the best on stars.. What about you??? Do you even have any idea compared to me?

Stop talking so much ridiculous shit.

On November 19 2012 20:16 locoo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: neither of you have enough hands so make those claims. i dont have much zoom hands, but 510 is very very tough compared to 2 years ago either A. everyone else who claims games who are tougher are wrong, i.e me or B. locoo and stroggoz are wrong and are simply running hot Nvm you are probably right

graphs stats sample size to support your claims that todays games is easy for you?

please dont post 200k hands and claim anything.

On November 19 2012 20:29 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 20:04 MARSHALL28 wrote:   On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: i guess its my word against yours, but im inclined to believe my self due to my 8million hand database showing me that i was clearly a huge winner and now suddenly breakeven after blackfriday. this mindset is the reason why the games will always be good. losing/breakeven players have a tendency to rationalize their losses away rather than looking inward when things go poorly for them and then argue that when things r going well for someone else that "they are just running hot" ... lol holy shit, do you even know who i am?? im not some random who started breaking even, i've stayed at the top for 5 years and constasntly changing and improving. you make it sound like im some random who knows nothing about improving. Yes new players come out of the woodwork and overtake the older generation of players, but thats not whats happening. Very very few players are winning in today's games. Who are you to talk about my mindset? Do you have any idea how tough i am mentally? You actually think i am a lazy person when it comes to poker?? You are talking about one of the few players who has SNE for 5 years in a row.. I have one of the largest database to back up my claims, do the people who claim to win have that? I think i am one of the most qualified people to speak on the toughness of the games for the past 5 years as i've constantly been one of the best on stars.. What about you??? Do you even have any idea compared to me? Stop talking so much ridiculous shit.

On November 19 2012 20:43 MiPwnYa wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 20:29 wobbly_au wrote:   On November 19 2012 20:04 MARSHALL28 wrote:   On November 19 2012 19:48 wobbly_au wrote: i guess its my word against yours, but im inclined to believe my self due to my 8million hand database showing me that i was clearly a huge winner and now suddenly breakeven after blackfriday. this mindset is the reason why the games will always be good. losing/breakeven players have a tendency to rationalize their losses away rather than looking inward when things go poorly for them and then argue that when things r going well for someone else that "they are just running hot" ... lol holy shit, do you even know who i am?? im not some random who started breaking even, i've stayed at the top for 5 years and constasntly changing and improving. you make it sound like im some random who knows nothing about improving. Yes new players come out of the woodwork and overtake the older generation of players, but thats not whats happening. Very very few players are winning in today's games. Who are you to talk about my mindset? Do you have any idea how tough i am mentally? You actually think i am a lazy person when it comes to poker?? You are talking about one of the few players who has SNE for 5 years in a row.. I have one of the largest database to back up my claims, do the people who claim to win have that? I think i am one of the most qualified people to speak on the toughness of the games for the past 5 years as i've constantly been one of the best on stars.. What about you??? Do you even have any idea compared to me? Stop talking so much ridiculous shit.

i've more than earned my claim.

NL is for the most part solved, and the rake hasn't gone anywhere. Makes mid stakes pretty hard to beat.


PLO is extremely high variance and many of the players just take turns running good. And the rake is worse.

wobbly ..

dunno u .. but .. wanna play?

On November 19 2012 20:52 MARSHALL28 wrote: wobbly .. dunno u .. but .. wanna play?

are u serious? lol funny how a few months of run hot can make anyone think they are good.

On November 19 2012 20:49 DaEm0niCuS wrote: NL is for the most part solved, and the rake hasn't gone anywhere. Makes mid stakes pretty hard to beat. PLO is extremely high variance and many of the players just take turns running good.

yup at the end of the day, pros still need the constant influx of fish money, the USA FISH MONEY. With out that regs will just be dumping stacks to each other, the ones who run good will think they are still winning and the ones who run bad will die out or give up (me). But the reality of it is, poker is a zero sum game and with USA out of the picture alot of the money influx is gone.

k so if im the delusional one and u r playing well obv i should lose a lot.

itd be a pretty big mistake to pass up that kinda opportunity... especially for someone so good they made sne 5 years in a row!

ok marshall vs wobbly go

EGO WAR, ftw.

The best thing that could possibly happen for poker would be to adjust to rake by stake for all games, so that it's not 10bb/100 at the lower stakes.


This however will never happen.

marshall vs wobbly plox

On November 19 2012 20:57 MARSHALL28 wrote: k so if im the delusional one and u r playing well obv i should lose a lot. itd be a pretty big mistake to pass up that kinda opportunity... especially for someone so good they made sne 5 years in a row!

claim games are easy and win alot
attack one of the best players on stars with nothing about slander saying im lazy and weak minded
when attacked with valid points go defense and bring up HU

what kind of professional reg are u?

This thread is a discussion on big downswings and i came in to make the claim that its very normal in todays games because i doubt tomson has any kind of a winrate, loco and strogoz voice their doubts.

At no point did i say I am the king of HU, i've stated i've won a shit load of money from NL cashgames in the last 5 years and have the authority to say certain aspects of that game has changed. Please dont derail this thread.

On the other hand if you think are top shit we can arrange to play HU on 10/20 locked in for atleast 5 buyins tho. But the results of that does not change the fact that i have authority to discuss and make certain claims on the deteriorating NL games of today. Where as you really dont have any authority or even evidence to suggest that either i am shit or games are easy.

On November 19 2012 21:03 wobbly_au wrote: On the other hand if you think are top shit we can arrange to play HU on 10/20 locked in for atleast 5 buyins tho. But the results of that does not change the fact that i have authority to discuss and make certain claims on the deteriorating NL games of today.

i never said anything about my skill level, i just made the basic assumption that it's better than yours if you are breakeven for the entire year. obviously this is booked.

lol