Your worst downswing experience? - Page 5

playing a statistically significant number of hands (impossible in a year of 2-6tabling anyway) isn't the only good predictor of expectation imo.

although this method is much fuzzier and more fallible to natural human tendencies for overconfidence in own abilities relative to the field, you can deduce times you must have an edge by observing the plays your opponents make and identifying weaknesses or consistent mistakes/exploitable tendencies. If that happens to be often then it's much more reasonable than u make it sound to assume you have a decent expectation in the games.

marshall still sounds like the kid from bw.

something good is coming out of this thread

Here's the thing though, even if wobbly is wrong he's never 100% wrong. Which means he's always right.

On November 19 2012 21:13 Ket wrote: playing a statistically significant number of hands (impossible in a year of 2-6tabling anyway) isn't the only good predictor of expectation imo. although this method is much fuzzier and more fallible to natural human tendencies for overconfidence in own abilities relative to the field, you can deduce times you must have an edge by observing the plays your opponents make and identifying weaknesses or consistent mistakes/exploitable tendencies. If that happens to be often then it's much more reasonable than u make it sound to assume you have a decent expectation in the games.

Good point, but i want to add that NL is a game of incomplete information, many times you make assumptions of "good folds" or "good shoves" but in reality you dont know villain's true range. Also there will be times where you find someone's "weakness" but he also found yours and is exploiting it without your knowledge. So just having a feel of "im better" is far from enough to expect to win.

On November 19 2012 21:13 Ket wrote: playing a statistically significant number of hands (impossible in a year of 2-6tabling anyway) isn't the only good predictor of expectation imo. although this method is much fuzzier and more fallible to natural human tendencies for overconfidence in own abilities relative to the field, you can deduce times you must have an edge by observing the plays your opponents make and identifying weaknesses or consistent mistakes/exploitable tendencies. If that happens to be often then it's much more reasonable than u make it sound to assume you have a decent expectation in the games.

couldnt agree more. a strong player wouldnt be posting in a thread about variance complaining that it can't be beaten so he has to quit.

On November 19 2012 21:16 DaEm0niCuS wrote: marshall still sounds like the kid from bw.

u didnt know? ...im just running my normal hustle.

whats your overall winrate this year wobbly?

On November 19 2012 21:24 Stroggoz wrote: whats your overall winrate this year wobbly?

0.5bb/100 -300k 25/50+
+200k 10/20-

but super shitty year, feel unlucky but i feel its more to do with no fish

wobbly vs marshall would be pretty epic!

wobbly i think you are misrepresenting your year quite a bit. sounds like you are winning at a decent clip still for being a 24 tabler but presumably just ran really bad at bigger stakes with fish in games.

having a lower winrate should be no surprise to anyone. most players are choosing to play less tables than they used to, have improved their base games and there are less fish. but supposing you play 1200 hands an hour at an average stake of 4/8 with your winrate you are still making 48/hr playing and probably 125/hr in rakeback for not a bad hourly at all.

i cant speak for downswings though because im a low volume high winrate player that bumhunts PLO midstakes. im personally in the largest downswing buyin wise ive had in 6 years, roughly 35 in 30k hands. long overdue.

if it wasn't for liangyu and all that action this summer, would you be up this year wobbles?

On November 19 2012 21:02 DaEm0niCuS wrote: The best thing that could possibly happen would be hu4rollz

On November 19 2012 21:26 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 21:24 Stroggoz wrote: whats your overall winrate this year wobbly? 0.5bb/100 -300k 25/50+ +200k 10/20- but super shitty year, feel unlucky but i feel its more to do with no fish

so by telling me earlier that mid/hi stakes is dead, means in wobblesland that basically w RB a 400k year = dead?

u cant be this tarded wobbles, are u really up 200k on midstakes and complains on the state of the games as a 24 tabler?

cant wrap my head around this, pic or didnt happen


IMG CONFUSED JACKIE CHAN. JPG /IMG

screenshots of HEM/PT Raport page with only: this year's number of hands, stakes, BB/100, EV BB/100 and stop all the yelling guys

On November 20 2012 03:09 longple wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2012 21:26 wobbly_au wrote:   On November 19 2012 21:24 Stroggoz wrote: whats your overall winrate this year wobbly? 0.5bb/100 -300k 25/50+ +200k 10/20- but super shitty year, feel unlucky but i feel its more to do with no fish so by telling me earlier that mid/hi stakes is dead, means in wobblesland that basically w RB a 400k year = dead? u cant be this tarded wobbles, are u really up 200k on midstakes and complains on the state of the games as a 24 tabler? cant wrap my head around this, pic or didnt happen IMG CONFUSED JACKIE CHAN. JPG /IMG

Not that simple because of the 200k from 1020- like 130 was 1020. Why would I kid? Either I am shit compared to regs of today or games are close to dead IMO.

130 buyins won at 10-20, 60 buyins down at 25-50

can't be that 25-50 is a bit too tough?

Anyone knows, how NaNoNoKo is doing this year? I would be quite surprised if his graph changed at all.

I wonder if a poker site is some day gonna say "you know what ? The problem is there is just too many bumhunters. Lets bann ALL OF THEM.... RIGHTH NOW!!!!!!!!!"

On November 17 2012 22:57 AndrewSong wrote: Real downswing is when your cashier displays 0 with couple buyins left in your bank account. You think about killing yourself but decide to wait on that since you have points left to go biGGGGGG!

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wobbly, what was your ptbb winrate prior to 2012 ?