Your worst downswing experience? - Page 6

On November 20 2012 07:08 MiPwnYa wrote: wobbly, what was your ptbb winrate prior to 2012 ?

slightly over 3bb/100 7 million hands if i remember correctly

when i get back to aus in a few months i'll post pre 2012 and 2012 graph and u will see for your self..

I dont know about beatable or not but its ridic to say games now are better than a couple years ago, how can they possibly be better?

Wobbly, you posted some results in your blog some time ago for 6millions+ hands.

On November 20 2012 09:06 kingpowa wrote: Wobbly, you posted some results in your blog some time ago for 6millions+ hands.

tyty
i think thats till towards the end of 2011......

Do you know the rake you paid for those 6M hands ?

On November 17 2012 22:57 AndrewSong wrote: Real downswing is when your cashier displays 0 with couple buyins left in your bank account. You think about killing yourself but decide to wait on that since you have points left to go biGGGGGG!

You are the fucking man Drew

Anyway, I had like a 20,000 sng game breakeven stretch this year. I think it was something like 1.8 million hands :[ Long term can really suck :D

On November 19 2012 21:02 DaEm0niCuS wrote: The best thing that could possibly happen for poker would be to adjust to rake by stake for all games, so that it's not 10bb/100 at the lower stakes. This however will never happen.

I've been saying this for years. It won't happen until players organize and actually fight for a system that would allow more winners. Health of the games would be 1000x better if the rake were more reasonable. Imagine if the rake cap had been arbitrarily set at 50 cents when online poker started? A brave new world.

On November 20 2012 09:43 Fujikura wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 22:57 AndrewSong wrote: Real downswing is when your cashier displays 0 with couple buyins left in your bank account. You think about killing yourself but decide to wait on that since you have points left to go biGGGGGG! You are the fucking man Drew Anyway, I had like a 20,000 sng game breakeven stretch this year. I think it was something like 1.8 million hands :[ Long term can really suck :D

u played 1.8 million hands this year ? Jesus somebody must teach me to stop beeing lazy :/

is the hu thing gonna go down?
let us know so we can bet

On November 20 2012 16:51 MiPwnYa wrote: is the hu thing gonna go down? let us know so we can bet

who you taking? and what kind of odds?

I hear you wobbly. Even doing my best bumhunting.. i was struggling trying to run 2/4-5/10 post black friday.. And its gotten even worse this year on stars. Not proud of regging up 1/2 for like 80% of my hands. But theres still decent money to make there along with sne.

On November 20 2012 18:15 chris wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 16:51 MiPwnYa wrote: is the hu thing gonna go down? let us know so we can bet who you taking? and what kind of odds?

Id bet on marshall, hes obv the weaker player so how about my 800 to your 1k

Much lower stakes, but for the last couple of years i used to win at +3bb/100 (50nl-200nl about 4mil hands) and have been breakeven this year over about 1mil hands. I game select a lot fwiw, can't understand how some people won't game select and want to make a living at 100nl, where the rake is like 7bb/100.

2012 graph

On November 18 2012 10:22 wobbly_au wrote: So check it guys, tomson pmed me to respond to this thread. I dont want this to turn into massive long thread and hijack it from OP but here is a too long didn't read version of my poker story. Started in June 2007 in my final semester of uni, friend (filthy999 on here) gave me 50$ and told me i'd make a good poker player and 6months later i had 110k never once going bust or ever endangering my roll and always having 20+ buyins (most of the time 50+). Long story short i made 1.7mil with rakeback included in 5 years. The worst downswing ever was maybe 200k hands of breakeven and a total of perhaps 60 buyins... My winrate overall over 8million hands is 2bb/100. Its definately not fantastic or anything compared to someone like galfond, but in my defence i've always played 24 tables.. At the table i've always felt i was either the best or the 2nd best at most of the games i've sat in, even in todays climate. I know i come across on this board as arrogant, asshole what ever you call it, and thats because i am smart. I was a high honor roll student in Syduni, got all kinds of prizes and scholarships and took on poker like it was natural to me, but this year was very very different for me. Even though I felt like i was still one of the best players on stars, i've broken even this whole year (no joke). I am down 120k this year (up 120 in rakeback) and unless something in the environment changes i dont plan on coming back. I am not discouraged about my own abilities but i am actually convinced the game is dead, after blackfriday happend alot of pros moved out of country just to keep gambling yet all the fish stopped playing. Even though I think i am better than most regs i play with but my edge on them is so small that it may not be enough to cover rake. Im actually interested to see anyone post a good winning graph this year over 1.5mil+ hands.. I really cant think of any name on stars that is going to have a good looking graph Anyways thats my 2cents to this, maybe im wrong and am just another washed up old school reg P.S im quitting after i hit SNE this year and hoping the poker economy (legislation changes) other wise im going to join my friend who is starting a private investment fund.

You've never been anything but a complete and utter scumbag at the tables so i won't be nice.

I've played a tonne of hands with you. You are just another idiot who the games have gone past who has too much of an ego to admit it. Even if you were a sicko player with the attitude you have it would have stunted your growth. But thinking you're a superstar when you're a sub-par 5/10 regular of course means you're going to end up breaking even.

Oh and as for your 300k+ theory, here are my results for the year, and i know for sure there there are plenty of people making more than me!


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On November 21 2012 07:35 NotInThDiner wrote: Show nested quote + On November 18 2012 10:22 wobbly_au wrote: So check it guys, tomson pmed me to respond to this thread. I dont want this to turn into massive long thread and hijack it from OP but here is a too long didn't read version of my poker story. Started in June 2007 in my final semester of uni, friend (filthy999 on here) gave me 50$ and told me i'd make a good poker player and 6months later i had 110k never once going bust or ever endangering my roll and always having 20+ buyins (most of the time 50+). Long story short i made 1.7mil with rakeback included in 5 years. The worst downswing ever was maybe 200k hands of breakeven and a total of perhaps 60 buyins... My winrate overall over 8million hands is 2bb/100. Its definately not fantastic or anything compared to someone like galfond, but in my defence i've always played 24 tables.. At the table i've always felt i was either the best or the 2nd best at most of the games i've sat in, even in todays climate. I know i come across on this board as arrogant, asshole what ever you call it, and thats because i am smart. I was a high honor roll student in Syduni, got all kinds of prizes and scholarships and took on poker like it was natural to me, but this year was very very different for me. Even though I felt like i was still one of the best players on stars, i've broken even this whole year (no joke). I am down 120k this year (up 120 in rakeback) and unless something in the environment changes i dont plan on coming back. I am not discouraged about my own abilities but i am actually convinced the game is dead, after blackfriday happend alot of pros moved out of country just to keep gambling yet all the fish stopped playing. Even though I think i am better than most regs i play with but my edge on them is so small that it may not be enough to cover rake. Im actually interested to see anyone post a good winning graph this year over 1.5mil+ hands.. I really cant think of any name on stars that is going to have a good looking graph Anyways thats my 2cents to this, maybe im wrong and am just another washed up old school reg P.S im quitting after i hit SNE this year and hoping the poker economy (legislation changes) other wise im going to join my friend who is starting a private investment fund. You've never been anything but a complete and utter scumbag at the tables so i won't be nice. I've played a tonne of hands with you. You are just another idiot who the games have gone past who has too much of an ego to admit it. Even if you were a sicko player with the attitude you have it would have stunted your growth. But thinking you're a superstar when you're a sub-par 5/10 regular of course means you're going to end up breaking even. Oh and as for your 300k+ theory, here are my results for the year, and i know for sure there there are plenty of people making more than me! Uploaded with ImageShack.us

pfft dont give a shit how u think I am as a person. But i am interested in your results, could you please rehost on a different site? I am overseas (China) and the webserver you used seems to be blocked.

On November 21 2012 07:28 the cleaner wrote: Much lower stakes, but for the last couple of years i used to win at +3bb/100 (50nl-200nl about 4mil hands) and have been breakeven this year over about 1mil hands. I game select a lot fwiw, can't understand how some people won't game select and want to make a living at 100nl, where the rake is like 7bb/100. 2012 graph

Saw your blog and yea me, you and i'd say most of the regs are basically experiencing the same thing.

@Wobbly, here`s the gist of his stats:

Total: 486 644$ (EV adjusted: 566 000$)
9bb/100 @ 460k hands total

8bb/100 over 377k hands of 5/10 as the meat, some 10/20 and 25/50. Too lazy to fill in all the details from his graph, but it looks pretty sick.

[QUOTE]On November 21 2012 08:14 TianYuan wrote:
@Wobbly, here`s the gist of his stats:

Total: 486 644$ (EV adjusted: 566 000$)
9bb/100 @ 460k hands total

8bb/100 over 377k hands of 5/10 as the meat, some 10/20 and 25/50. Too lazy to fill in all the details from his graph, but it looks pretty sick.[/QUOTE

pretty sick results, guess there will always be exceptions aye?

Mystery man, how have your year's results compared to the last few years?

On November 21 2012 05:50 MiPwnYa wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 18:15 chris wrote:   On November 20 2012 16:51 MiPwnYa wrote: is the hu thing gonna go down? let us know so we can bet who you taking? and what kind of odds? Id bet on marshall, hes obv the weaker player so how about my 800 to your 1k

you're a sick hustler Q ! I feel pretty sure Marshall is a heads up and short handed specialist.
let's see what unfolds

On November 21 2012 07:35 NotInThDiner wrote: Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Yes but how much did you lose?