The games are incredibly easy - Page 3

On November 25 2012 16:29 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2012 17:32 Enigma wrote: Always thinking person and inspiring. TY Ket! I have been having similar feelings lately, it is like you need to shift your focus to what you can control (your own skill level) instead of blaming outside factors/notions for your lack of results. If you still have any work ethic towards poker left you will be able to improve and overcome, but if you just say the games are too hard you will never beat them. GG not really what my post was about, but this attitude you describe is 100% correct

Isnt this attitude just the polar opposite of saying "games are unbeatable"?

I thought the point wobbly was making was that a majority of people would be much better off putting their time/effort into something other than playing poker these days.

being blindly optimistic seems just as bad as being blindly pessimistic

huh was just agreeing with what he was saying, that it's generally the right mindset to have to focus only on things you can control, work hard and take responsibility for all outcomes instead of just blaming the things beyond your control. this is a gd way to go about things not just in poker but in life.

where does anything wobbly said come into any part of this blogpost? that thread is somewhere else

Hey, I found forth this for you Ket Pet!!

https://www.summaries.com/index/Talent%20is%20Overrated.pdf

It's a nice summary of that Book you were talking about xD

ah..cheers

On November 24 2012 16:57 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2012 10:37 Ket wrote:   On November 24 2012 07:32 Loco wrote:   On November 24 2012 07:13 TheTrees wrote: Very positive post...need more positivity on LP It looks positive on the surface but the more I think about it the more it should be depressing to most. It's basically saying that if you haven't made it big already and you have put in a lot of efforts in the past few years, you suck, and there's no hope for you. And even if you somewhat made it big, you still suck somewhat if you find the games hard: you've probably hit some plateau you won't get past, and you're better off quitting. While those who don't suck don't need any kind of pep-talk, they're just crushing and they know how good they are. So the positivity is geared towards no one that needs it in reality, lol. I mean really think about it, Ket is saying he's not very good at all (what does that make 99% of LP players?) and the good news is for those who are motivated (more than him) and good (better than him), if I'm not misunderstanding the end of his post. imo it's good news for anyone with any interest in playing poker online and trying to win, as doing so today is a lot easier than it could be (it's harder than it was sure but that kind of thing can never ever last surely? that was a one-time bubble because poker was new to the mainstream) I'm not sure I'm getting what you're saying at the end. Are you saying that poker has a chance of becoming easier than it is right now? For this to happen there would have to be a devolution rather than an evolution in the way most people think about the game. But since it's a mathematical game, the chances of this happening do not exist. Anyway, I don't think it's good news for anyone trying to win. Everyone is trying to win, you know? People aren't playing to lose. But not everyone has the potential to become great. And to succeed in very competitive pursuits we cannot exclude the necessity of the potential for greatness. Where internet poker was in the recent past, the potential for greatness was not necessary. Little talent was required to reap it massive income. Now, without talent and hard work, even a small, steady income has become nearly impossible. Most of the people who are trying to win simply won't be able to, because that's how every single competition works. In this state of affairs it's everyone's will against everyone else's, but there are drastic differences between the information that has been gathered by those wills. After all, there has to be more losers than winners for the prize and glory to be worth pursuing. The idea that "where there's a will, there's a way" might be a nice thought, but in reality, there's only a way for a very few wills when there are many that are competing. If every runner ended up with a gold medal, there wouldn't be much of a competition. And it's quite easy given past information to know when a will is deluding itself as to what it can achieve. I mean, I think you get what I'm saying: if some guy has been grinding the low stakes for 4-5 years with a slightly positive winrate, you wouldn't bet on him reaching the top, ever, but you'd eagerly bet against him were he to be delusional enough to think so. So, there is more to it than wanting it: one must be fit for it.

everyone wants to win, but not everyone works hard in order to achieve that goal

true story

This hand got me thinking: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/993442

How many times does this happen daily, with me, the guy just donated $60 to me for no reason, then I tried to imagine how many millions people give away everyday by making completely absurd plays that are not ok in any kind of scenario whatsoever. So I remembered this blogpost because if you think about it, it really shows how much the game is really super easy for anyone who is willing to take all that free money that is available out there.

That vid is great, already seen it over several times