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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 09 2015 10:02. Posts 2355 | | |
Deleting. I am back to poker.
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longple   Sweden. Nov 09 2015 10:21. Posts 4472 | | |
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Dinewbie   United States. Nov 09 2015 10:27. Posts 58 | | |
Always been a fan man. You and your gf look great together, happy to see you crushing poker as always. Also glad that you are enjoying the new life with coding. Keep it up and be happy! Don't stop blogging even if you get out of the poker game. It's always good to see how well other LPers are doing!
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 09 2015 10:32. Posts 8649 | | |
not gonna lie, i got a semi from like 7 different things in this blog. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 09 2015 10:44. Posts 34286 | | |
I love how cars look in black matte, ill do that one day |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 09 2015 12:32. Posts 15163 | | |
so sick
Giyom
boobies
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lebowski   Greece. Nov 09 2015 12:39. Posts 9205 | | |
| On November 09 2015 09:02 AndrewSong wrote:
If you guys have questions on poker feel free to ask here. I would love to contribute in making the games tougher.
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fuck! how has noone snap called this yet
uhmm... I guess you could tell us your general pf strat on the sb kind sir |
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d0zer1   . Nov 09 2015 13:29. Posts 6 | | |
is this all 1/2 6max zoom on 888 ? does it run a lot ? did you play any other games ?
harassing turtles is not cool, other than keep going : ) |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Nov 09 2015 15:42. Posts 4946 | | |
Definitely want to see more pics of the car. How hard is it to find a shop that you trust to do a good job like that? What do you look for? |
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ClouD87   Italy. Nov 09 2015 15:59. Posts 524 | | |
Nice car!
Anyway since you said we could ask about poker...
Would you recommend any book other than mathematics of poker and applications of nlhe?
What are the videos/coaches you would recommend watching that teach you how to practically win at poker? It seems there is a lot of misleading content from mediocre players even on runitonce. |
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PuertoRican   United States. Nov 09 2015 18:00. Posts 13174 | | |
Sweet blog. Thanks for the updates.
Also, I agree with Dozer regarding the turtle. |
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Trav94   Canada. Nov 09 2015 18:29. Posts 1789 | | |
Can you tell me your general thoughts on over-betting? How're you personally incorporating it into your game, if at all?
Also, nice read. GL with future endeavours |
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jvilla777   Australia. Nov 09 2015 20:55. Posts 1348 | | |
living the dream man, GL! |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 00:38. Posts 2355 | | |
thanks guys!
| On November 09 2015 11:39 lebowski wrote:
fuck! how has noone snap called this yet
uhmm... I guess you could tell us your general pf strat on the sb kind sir |
At 1/2 or any stakes with large player pool, it's important to play multiple strats for PF depending on your opponent. Below is a pf strat I'm using as a baseline.
vs CO I'm using 12% range. 56s+, QTs+, A9s+, AJo+, 77+
vs BU 22% 55+, 56s+, 75s+, A5s+, ATo+
SB vs BB - I started with a standard 48% steal. Now I'm comfortable stealing 60% as players aren't defending blinds as hard as they should. I would avoid limping strats with high rake.
I wouldn't recommend using the same PF strat and you may want to go little tighter especially vs BU. So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets in 3b pots geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. My range will not do well postflop if you are betting geometrically.
| On November 09 2015 12:29 d0zer1 wrote:
is this all 1/2 6max zoom on 888 ? does it run a lot ? did you play any other games ?
harassing turtles is not cool, other than keep going : ) |
yup 888 zoom and it runs pretty frequently. Lot of times player pool is small and we have 3handed zoom going and I like this a lot. |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 01:01. Posts 2355 | | |
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PoorUser   United States. Nov 10 2015 01:24. Posts 7472 | | |
| On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. |
examples of said boards? |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 01:29. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 09 2015 14:59 ClouD87 wrote:
Nice car!
Anyway since you said we could ask about poker...
Would you recommend any book other than mathematics of poker and applications of nlhe?
What are the videos/coaches you would recommend watching that teach you how to practically win at poker? It seems there is a lot of misleading content from mediocre players even on runitonce. |
To be honest, I haven't watched any video since cts days that had influence on my play. I kept up with watching videos but it was more so for entertainment or habit of going to sleep with Galfond's soothing voice. I heard Zaza is making videos again and I would definitely recommend watching him. He approaches poker completely differently than me but the way he's able to solve hands on the go and map a strategy is really cool. Definitely the best NL player producing videos right now |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 02:29. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 09 2015 17:29 Trav94 wrote:
Can you tell me your general thoughts on over-betting? How're you personally incorporating it into your game, if at all?
Also, nice read. GL with future endeavours |
I have two different strategy when it comes to over betting. First is a theoretical approach when I have a range advantage on the river. Betting as much as you can when you have a range advantage is the way to go as you can fit more bluffs into your range. That way you steal more of the opponent's equity from the pot and treat the problem as opponent always folds. Keeping blockers in mind is very important when you are building a bluffing range as many theory oriented players use blockers to build a calling range.
Second approach is an exploitable approach where you have a player that has a history of hero calling with a hand that is out of 1-alpha. Over betting strong hands or betting pot can work well to these players because they don't put importance in pot odds and see the problem as nuts or nothing and call with hands they would've otherwise fold to a standard bet. I still can't get around why 2-1 pot odds is more attractive than 3-1 but a lot of these guys are regs.
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 02:41. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 10 2015 00:24 PoorUser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. |
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8d 8h 9h is a good example and should be bet 1/3 ~ 1/4 on 3bet pots* |
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PanoRaMa   United States. Nov 10 2015 03:05. Posts 1655 | | |
| On November 09 2015 09:02 AndrewSong wrote:
However, sense has hit me as my PT4 is running out of trial and I will be uninstalling poker again in coming hours.
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handbanana21   United States. Nov 10 2015 03:23. Posts 3037 | | |
| On November 10 2015 01:29 AndrewSong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 17:29 Trav94 wrote:
Can you tell me your general thoughts on over-betting? How're you personally incorporating it into your game, if at all?
Also, nice read. GL with future endeavours |
I have two different strategy when it comes to over betting. First is a theoretical approach when I have a range advantage on the river. Betting as much as you can when you have a range advantage is the way to go as you can fit more bluffs into your range. That way you steal more of the opponent's equity from the pot and treat the problem as opponent always folds. Keeping blockers in mind is very important when you are building a bluffing range as many theory oriented players use blockers to build a calling range.
Second approach is an exploitable approach where you have a player that has a history of hero calling with a hand that is out of 1-alpha. Over betting strong hands or betting pot can work well to these players because they don't put importance in pot odds and see the problem as nuts or nothing and call with hands they would've otherwise fold to a standard bet. I still can't get around why 2-1 pot odds is more attractive than 3-1 but a lot of these guys are regs.
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 10 2015 06:59. Posts 6374 | | |
| On November 10 2015 01:41 AndrewSong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 00:24 PoorUser wrote:
| On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. |
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8d 8h 9h is a good example and should be bet 1/3 ~ 1/4 |
this is only true for wide ranges playing each other, its completely false for narrower ranges like ep vs btn etc, from pfr perspective obv
in fact i see no point in making such a meaningless statements like these without providing any context |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 07:40. Posts 2355 | | |
whats up with your hostility? obviously i'm not gonna provide any context when you talk in that tone |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 10 2015 08:49. Posts 2355 | | |
also, the 889 example was for 3bet pots and would've been obvious if you followed the dialogue. |
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Highcard   Canada. Nov 10 2015 11:17. Posts 5428 | | |
I'd ask, talk about Big Blind defense ranges and range splitting vs various open raise sizes. How do you determine defense frequency of range vs range (disregarding villain leaks like folding to 3 bets too often).
And follow up would be, how are you determining your IP defense strategy vs 3bets. How do you split your calling of 3bets and 4betting in relation to the 3bet pot odds they lay you. Example, them raising 3bb->9bb vs 3bb->12bb |
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Roald   Tuvalu. Nov 10 2015 11:40. Posts 2683 | | |
As much as I dislike javascript, it really is a language all developers need to be familiar with. If you want to do anything on the web you will need js to make the pages come alive. It is much better now than a few years ago where you had to have special logic all over the place depending on which browser someone was using. Luckily I haven't had to do too much web dev in the last few years. If you are trying to work in the field I think it's still the vast majority of jobs that will want you to at least be able to do some AJAX (or similar method) like second nature. I am now doing a lot of unity 3d development which lets you use js as a scripting language. Fortunately, C#, which is by far the best language, is way more popular among unity devs so I'm basically in heaven now. |
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lebowski   Greece. Nov 10 2015 14:08. Posts 9205 | | |
| On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
thanks guys!
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 11:39 lebowski wrote:
fuck! how has noone snap called this yet
uhmm... I guess you could tell us your general pf strat on the sb kind sir |
At 1/2 or any stakes with large player pool, it's important to play multiple strats for PF depending on your opponent. Below is a pf strat I'm using as a baseline.
vs CO I'm using 12% range. 56s+, QTs+, A9s+, AJo+, 77+
vs BU 22% 55+, 56s+, 75s+, A5s+, ATo+
SB vs BB - I started with a standard 48% steal. Now I'm comfortable stealing 60% as players aren't defending blinds as hard as they should. I would avoid limping strats with high rake.
I wouldn't recommend using the same PF strat and you may want to go little tighter especially vs BU. So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets in 3b pots geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. My range will not do well postflop if you are betting geometrically.
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thanks a lot!
I'll have to figure out how not to spew uncontrollably with this information because I'm not sure I understand how betsizing affects the strat, I'm in the "regs who have shitty 3bet pot sizings" camp  |
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I've seem to hit a ceiling and been stuck at 2/4 for like the last 5 years 
Generally speaking, what do 2/4 regs need to work on the make the jump to like 3/6 and 5/10?
I know you have to be calling down and be putting in the money a lot more than what your comfortable with, but anything else like technical aspects? |
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ClouD87   Italy. Nov 10 2015 15:58. Posts 524 | | |
| On November 10 2015 14:52 JohnnyBologna wrote:
I've seem to hit a ceiling and been stuck at 2/4 for like the last 5 years 
Generally speaking, what do 2/4 regs need to work on the make the jump to like 3/6 and 5/10?
I know you have to be calling down and be putting in the money a lot more than what your comfortable with, but anything else like technical aspects? |
I know you have asked Andrew but a small consideration came to mind when I read this.
If you have been playing 2/4 for 5 years it means you have improved a ton since you first played at that level. Perhaps all you need is speed up your learning process that's already happening so you get ahead of the curve and can play higher levels? |
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Rinny   United States. Nov 10 2015 17:23. Posts 600 | | |
[QUOTE]On November 10 2015 11:17 AndrewSong wrote:
Thanks Tim. You won't regret the matte and if you don't like it, you can always take it off 
Ronald, good to hear. I haven't gotten around AJAX yet. I'm still solving higher order functions in javascript using maps, reduce, filter etc. It's very confusing to say the least. I'm hoping to learn a lot more once I'm comfortable with js.
You are ahead of 80% of web devs if you are doing functional stuff lol. I wouldn't be too worried about figuring out ajax calls ha-ha. |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. Nov 10 2015 17:23. Posts 5070 | | |
Do love the matte black wrap. I have an E92 M3 and have considered getting a matte black wrap in the past. I saw one in South Korea like 4 or 5 year ago and it was utterly stunning. Congrats on the results |
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Roald   Tuvalu. Nov 10 2015 20:35. Posts 2683 | | |
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Ronald, good to hear. I haven't gotten around AJAX yet. I'm still solving higher order functions in javascript using maps, reduce, filter etc. It's very confusing to say the least. I'm hoping to learn a lot more once I'm comfortable with js.
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redrain0125   Canada. Nov 11 2015 05:25. Posts 5455 | | |
Javascript is a weird language with many quirks and gotchas but you'll get to like it. It's a good time to start out as a web developer and also bad time, because while there are so many resources for self-learning, it seems like everyone and their mom and dad is a web dev. I honestly think the field is oversaturated ever since these social networks and mobile apps emerged. But, if you combine basic web development with something else like encryption technologies, data analysis, algorithms, etc to make a better skillset, I think you can stand out from most developers.
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devon06atX   Canada. Nov 11 2015 07:26. Posts 5460 | | |
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Pb   Greece. Nov 11 2015 16:29. Posts 98 | | |
| On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
I wouldn't recommend using the same PF strat and you may want to go little tighter especially vs BU. So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets in 3b pots geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. My range will not do well postflop if you are betting geometrically.
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Any possible tips on where to find more information about this? |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 11 2015 21:27. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 11 2015 15:29 Pb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:38 AndrewSong wrote:
I wouldn't recommend using the same PF strat and you may want to go little tighter especially vs BU. So far from my experience in 1/2, it seems like the biggest mistake regs are making is sizing bets in 3b pots geometrically on flops that shouldn't be bet this way. My range will not do well postflop if you are betting geometrically.
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As a starter, check out some of the training videos produced by higher stakes NL players. Zaza would be a great place to start. Another would be getting hold of lengthy database of high stakes NL and going through the 3bet pots on spots the population agrees. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 13 2015 09:41. Posts 15163 | | |
I have a question
Were you working with the concept of R at all preflop, and what did you find? |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 13 2015 09:41. Posts 15163 | | |
Also what's your opinion on PokerSnowie's preflop strategy and using snowie in general |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 13 2015 09:52. Posts 15163 | | |
oh and if you care to share your database, pm  |
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Nitewin   United States. Nov 13 2015 21:22. Posts 1552 | | |
Why are you coding? What kind of salary do you expect to get? Unless you're a world class coder, your salary is probably ~100k at best. If you can lose 250k at highstakes you must be a millionaire. Invest that money wisely and live off the returns. Also, teach me poker???  |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 13 2015 23:31. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 13 2015 08:41 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
I have a question
Were you working with the concept of R at all preflop, and what did you find? |
Never heard of the term concept of R. Is that a fancy word of saying realizing your equity?
| On November 13 2015 08:41 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Also what's your opinion on PokerSnowie's preflop strategy and using snowie in general |
I've tried the trial and I think it's an okay tool to review your hands. I don't like it personally and think it's whatever.
As for snowie's preflop strategy, I dislike everything about it. I think it's too tight, and don't like it's complete disrespect for suited connectors. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 14 2015 00:04. Posts 15163 | | |
| On November 13 2015 22:31 AndrewSong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 08:41 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
I have a question
Were you working with the concept of R at all preflop, and what did you find? |
Never heard of the term concept of R. Is that a fancy word of saying realizing your equity?
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Minion   Brasil. Nov 15 2015 01:41. Posts 2112 | | |
Any advices on software to use to study and analise hands besides the basic HM and PT?
Wich ones did you use and liked it?
I feel i'm a few years lagging behind in this area. |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 15 2015 02:09. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 15 2015 00:41 Minion wrote:
Any advices on software to use to study and analise hands besides the basic HM and PT?
Wich ones did you use and liked it?
I feel i'm a few years lagging behind in this area. |
I feel you minion, I was in the same page as well since all my learning came from pattern recognition from playing and solving hand solution with friends that never went into detail.
Combonator would be a good place to start. You can open multiple combonators and run it for range vs range which I don't think any other software allows you to do. End game would be CRev though, and once you get around how to use it, you can solve any hand and get off the computer feeling like you got good work done.
As for the new and coming GTO solvers, I don't have much to say as I don't have much experience with it. Smuft seems to regard it highly which probably means something.
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Fayth   Canada. Nov 16 2015 06:41. Posts 10085 | | |
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ClouD87   Italy. Nov 16 2015 16:18. Posts 524 | | |
Would you please elaborate? What GTO solvers say is basically which sizes perform better with your range (super useful, especially on the flop), how much less % you can defend compared to minimum defense frequency when you are facing a bet from a stronger range (asymmetrical situations) and which hands should be bet or raised at higher frequency for value and protection. Rest seems just unemployable mixed strategies that are not viable in real life situations. Solving with CREV or Flopzilla+HoldEQ or combonator should be complementary to using GTO solvers, not interchangeable. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 19 2015 10:55. Posts 15163 | | |
Okay I have another one
What's your opinion on playing Zoom/masstabling and playing 4-5 tables and focusing on each of them?
Also how was scheduling important for you, and did you have rigid time management?
And what were your study/play rations overall |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 19 2015 22:33. Posts 2355 | | |
| On November 19 2015 09:55 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Okay I have another one
What's your opinion on playing Zoom/masstabling and playing 4-5 tables and focusing on each of them?
Zoom/masstabling depends on how well you multi-task. I had a year when I 30-40tabled 2/4-5/10 full ring and it was probably the worst decision I've made. Not only did I not make SNE, my winrate was mediocre and I realized too late that your learning through playing goes out the window when youre splitting so much of your brain power.
No one knows yourself better than you do, it's best to take an analyticsl approach to capitalize on your hourly and future hourly.
Also how was scheduling important for you, and did you have rigid time management?
And what were your study/play rations overall
I think Ive said this before but I was a terrible boss to myself. Ive probably played only dozen sessions or so on Friday and Saturday out of my 10 year online career. When I added Sunday to my weekly grind after seeing my buddy shipping Sunday mil, I final tabled two that month and ultimately chopped the last one for 280k. That was my record month of 350k and Black Friday followed 2 weeks after.
My study to play ratio was probably close to something like 70-30 study and play. This had more to do with all aspects of poker consuming my daily life(coaching, staking, friends being poker players etc).
One thing great I learned from poker is how important it is to prepare yourself and make the decision prior to the action. To give an extreme example that can't be applied to us, if you are a women being groped, most would not react because they are conditioned for passivity. Poker taught me that things like this should be conciously decided in advance so you would not lose precious time to decision making.
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