UFC 200: Cormier vs. Jones 2 - Page 2

Thanks everyone for their opinions, I am going to evaluate my possible bets. Probably going to make half of them.

- About Cormier and Jones, I see Cormier looking better everytime and Jones looked not as good as always in his last fight (maybe for the time out + his life style).

- I think Jose Aldo will win cause his stand up is superior and he is very difficult to take down, I think this is going to be similar to the first fight.

- About Tate and Nunez, if Tate wouldnt won the belt the odds will be different she is not that superior to Nunes IMO.

On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote: everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life

Are you basing that on actual facts or just stating it as one so its easier to validate your arguments ?
You shouldn't make conclusions about a bet based on assumptions, especially where the edges are slight.

I could easily see Cormier beating Jones if JBJ fights like he did vs OSP though.

Well-known high stakes sports bettor, Vegas Dave, is betting $1mil on Miesha Tate at 2-1.

On June 21 2016 20:35 PuertoRican wrote: Well-known high stakes sports bettor, Vegas Dave, is betting $1mil on Miesha Tate at 2-1.

Bisping over Rockhold? mmmm

No tickets uploaded about his alledged Bisping bet, so I call BS.

On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote: everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life Anyway we'll see in the rematch

Have you even tried coke? how do you know how much coke Jones did?


you are just talking out of your ass here

On June 22 2016 08:35 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2016 05:22 whamm! wrote: everybody on earth who's ever binged on that stuff. JBJ didn't just do it as some party favor you know, he really lived that coca life Anyway we'll see in the rematch Have you even tried coke? how do you know how much coke Jones did? you are just talking out of your ass here

yes. they call him the vacuum cleaner. whenever he's around people hide their shit because he'll make sure your shit gets cleaned.

you will see once they fight, the intangibles will show and prove my point. if i had stars id be willing to bet on my theory given the odds
coke for jbj is what side pussy was for tiger woods lol. once i saw him fight OSP like that, he was a totally different guy not willing to take risks
Cormier hasn't lost his mojo after his loss, so JBJ better be ready for a five round scrap with none of that OSP performance or else he'll get manhandled like everyone else

You do realize he did not fight on coke in his previous matches right ? And that there is no physical addiction to cocaine. He could potentially have psychological issues with MMA as a whole if he has it as a connection cocaine-MMA.
As a matter of a fact, fighting should be something he seeks due to the adrenaline rush

That being said yes he might be tentative and be psychologically weak, but it wont be, cause of the lack of cocaine. It all seems somewhat natural when put in perspective now. He screwed up big, he got a new chance, there was a lot on the line for Jones at that OSP fight, one loss and everything he was building falls apart instantly, plus he fucked up right before the fight with that speeding issue. Woulda been quite the downfall. He s obviously not the psychopath he projects to be, meaning he has tons of uncertainties and obviously he needed time to adjust considering his situation .

coke is like steroids, everyone does but nobody talks about it
even my mates at gym they try to hide from me that they use steroids lol

I had some friends that started selling coke and they told me 29808876 persons I knew and never imagined they do coke, lol, even my doctor at the time, its much more common than people think and its not everyone that does is addicted or go nuts after using a few times

One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...

On June 23 2016 04:09 Floofy wrote: One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...

Jones/DC to be stopped because of an eye poke +275.

Cormier vs Jones = hard fight to call. Jones looked horrible in his last fight imo, and their first fight was close enough that I think if Jones isn't at his best Cormier will probably beat him. People say Jones was just rusty which is possible, but he was only out a lil over a year and he was never injured or rehabbing, he was training the whole time.

So 100% Jones I think the odds are good, but if his mental game is off I think it's really close.

Lesnar vs Hunt = I'm surprised everyones dumping money on Hunt. Do you really think he can stop a lesnar double? Hunt has faced 1 good wrestler in the UFC and it was Stipe, who put a horrible mauling on him. Lesnar has been retired and old, but the dudes wrestling is still probably great. Then again, look how bad Fedor looked.

Frankie vs Aldo = Their first fight was really close, and it was Frankies first cut to 145. Since then I think Frankie has got much better and Aldo has declined. Got Frankie here.

Cain vs Browne = Cain probably takes him down and mauls him. Wouldn't be too surprised if Travis lands something big and tko's him though.

Hendricks vs Gastelum = Hendricks should probably beat him in a semi competitive decision.

Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.

On June 23 2016 04:09 Floofy wrote: One important thing to consider about the Jones/Cormier fight, is BJM will be the ref. This is probably going to hurt JBJ's game a lot. He really won't let Jones let his hands open...

Damn great rpoint. I was so pumped BJM was kept warning Elias for pawing with his hand open. I can definitely see BJM taking a point from Jon if he does it too much.

On June 24 2016 01:16 Stim_Abuser wrote: Not sure why everyone is so down on Hendricks. He easily should of beat Robbie in their 2nd fight. Yes he looked bad against Wonderboy, but Wonderboy looks far and away the best fighter at WW. I think Wonderboy will make Robbie look like an amateur as well.

I used to think like you, and then i read Firas Zahabi's analysis and i kinda changed my mind.

Essentially what he said is, Hendricks was A LOT smaller when he fought WOnderboy, than when he fought GSP.
Hendricks was probably the heaviest WW, and with the IV4 ban, he had to get smaller.
But being smaller also means being weaker...

Zahabi is essentially saying that, if the Hendricks who fought Wonderboy shows up, Gastlelum should even have the egde in wrestling.
On the other hand, if the Prime Hendricks shows up, then he should have the edge.
So essentially the correct play should be to wait for weight ins and see how Hendricks looks.

Zahabi also hinted that Hendricks most likely was on peds (and we know GSP claimed that many times too), and right now, everything leads to believe its very possible he was.

On June 24 2016 01:09 Stim_Abuser wrote: Cormier vs Jones = hard fight to call. Jones looked horrible in his last fight imo, and their first fight was close enough that I think if Jones isn't at his best Cormier will probably beat him. People say Jones was just rusty which is possible, but he was only out a lil over a year and he was never injured or rehabbing, he was training the whole time. So 100% Jones I think the odds are good, but if his mental game is off I think it's really close. Lesnar vs Hunt = I'm surprised everyones dumping money on Hunt. Do you really think he can stop a lesnar double? Hunt has faced 1 good wrestler in the UFC and it was Stipe, who put a horrible mauling on him. Lesnar has been retired and old, but the dudes wrestling is still probably great. Then again, look how bad Fedor looked. Frankie vs Aldo = Their first fight was really close, and it was Frankies first cut to 145. Since then I think Frankie has got much better and Aldo has declined. Got Frankie here. Cain vs Browne = Cain probably takes him down and mauls him. Wouldn't be too surprised if Travis lands something big and tko's him though. Hendricks vs Gastelum = Hendricks should probably beat him in a semi competitive decision.

Even if Lesnar takes him down Mark Hunt remains being very dangerous when tired/hurt, he spends no energy at all he doesnt even block just shows the forehad against punches and looks for the left hook and Lesnar just needs one of those to crawl into a ball, also Lesnar poses no striking threat whatsoever to Hunt, so he can stand very heavy hands down making it very hard for Lesnar to take him down

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On June 24 2016 17:08 lucky331 wrote: which sportsbook offers the most mma propbets?

5-Dimes is good

On June 23 2016 21:31 PuertoRican wrote: ^ Posted on June 4, 2016. (notice the boot on Assuncao's foot) Assuncao suffered a broken ankle at the end of 2014 which had trouble healing, then he went under the knife to fix it. In a Sherdog interview back in January 2016, Assuncao mentioned his doctor has yet to clear him, but expects to be cleared in 5-6 months (around June 2016). It makes you wonder why he's wearing a cast on his previously injured foot one month before he's scheduled to fight.

The picture Erick Silva posted is old. Here is the original picture and date:

Basically, Erick Silva originally uploaded this picture in July 2015. What was posted earlier this month was a re-upload, since he wants to hype up his friend who is fighting soon, and will most likely get a title shot if he wins.

So, Assuncao is healthy like we originally expected him to be.