UFC 202: Diaz vs McGregor 2 - Page 14

On August 21 2016 14:44 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 21 2016 06:13 Floofy wrote:   On August 21 2016 06:04 Baalim wrote:   On August 21 2016 05:57 Floofy wrote:   On August 21 2016 05:48 Baalim wrote:   On August 21 2016 05:38 Floofy wrote:   On August 21 2016 05:26 Baalim wrote: I like Dallas Winston score of 47-46.... the judges were instructed to score more 10-8 rounds, Round 1 was absolutely 10-8 under new rules and Round 3 could very likely be 10-8 too. Maybe i need to rewatch it but i disagree. Round 1 wasn't a 10-8 at all imo. But round 3 probably was one. Nate didnt land a punch, 3 knockdowns, bloodied up, limping bruised leg. In boxing a single knockdown gives you a 10-8 round Blood does not mean a thing. It was 34 SS vs 25 SS. And these Knock downs weren't real knock downs, it was more Diaz faking being knocked down so conor makes the mistake of going to the ground, Maia vs Silva style. you mention blood doesnt meana thing then quote fucking significant strikes? get the fuck out, you arent even trying. And no, Nate wasnt falling back to pull guard for fucks sake his face was a mess Since when are judges supposed to ignore SS and instead judge based on blood in the face?? Do you even know what the judges's criterias are? facepalm this is so dumb i feel my IQ dropping by replying... I know blood doesnt count, but signifcant strikes doesnt tell the story, otherwise we wouldnt need judges and would only count strikes, a light jab to the face is a significant strike the same as a power straight to the face that throws you on your ass. The first round was absolute dominance, Nate got his face smashed in and he could barely walk and Conor made him look like he had no business being there in the cage, given the new UFC scoring rules that encourage judges to give 10-8 scores more liberaly the 1st and 3rd round should have been 10-8 rounds

I rewatched that first round and even tho conor won it very clearly, i still think this is far from a 10-8. There is even a point (around 30 seconds left mark) where Conor seemed hurt and was running away.
They both landed around the same ammount of punches.
What made the difference is conor landing those leg kicks. But if that round is a 10-8 then 30%+ of the UFC rounds should be 10-8s.


On the other hand im tempted to call round 3 a 10-8 under new rules. The first 4 minutes were ok, but then in last 40 seconds conor was getting annilated and if this lasted 1 more minute he might have been finished.

Great fight. I thought Nate looked really off. Wasn't sharp with his 1-2's like he usually is. In the post fight press conference he said he injured his knee a month out and couldn't do much grappling and then injured his rib and couldn't do much striking. I'm inclined to believe it. Didn't look like the same guy that fought Michael Johnson thats for sure.

Conors cardio still being complete shit is pretty surprising. I think guys are gonna start game planning to take him into later rounds. He definitely looked great in the first round, though Diaz is kinda built to make him look good since he's super hittable and slow even for a LW. Conor did do a pretty good job at kicking and moving and still landing big punches.

AJ is a monster. It's lame that we probably won't get to see him fight Jones. At least for a long time.

Cerrone looks like a new man at WW. Can't believe he finished Rick Story. Rick has one of the best chins I've ever seen and is a legit top 10 WW. Never thought I'd see Cerrone move up and be a top 10 WW.

On August 21 2016 14:49 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 21 2016 11:40 cariadon wrote: That's a bit biased. Conor did a lot better conditioning wise compared to last fight. (Strategy plays into this aswell). I dont think he showed any improvement in cardio, he paced himself more but thats it, he still faded extremely early, halfway to the second round and there was no grapling, no clinching nor brawling to sap his energy, he gasses out of nowhere for no reason. Cruz mentioned that his style might be too draining but come on... Cruz keeps constant motion jumping widely from place to place that seems way more draining, i dont see how Conors style could be draining at all

I mean that was going to be my initial response to him too, but I do feel that he s right, as this isn't Conor's natural fight weight plus he was facing someone that can really hurt him and managed to do so right at that 2nd half of 2nd round. I do feel that he would've not lasted 5 rounds even at current pace previous fight, so we are indeed somewhat biased.

Also mad props to Cerrone, that combo that enabled him to finish the fight was one of the most beautiful things I've seen in the UFC.
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On August 21 2016 14:49 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 21 2016 11:40 cariadon wrote: That's a bit biased. Conor did a lot better conditioning wise compared to last fight. (Strategy plays into this aswell). I dont think he showed any improvement in cardio, he paced himself more but thats it, he still faded extremely early, halfway to the second round and there was no grapling, no clinching nor brawling to sap his energy, he gasses out of nowhere for no reason. Cruz mentioned that his style might be too draining but come on... Cruz keeps constant motion jumping widely from place to place that seems way more draining, i dont see how Conors style could be draining at all

This was Conors biggest test to date cardio wise and he managed to endure a grueling 25 minute fight. Maybe he "faded" when he injured his leg (there were not many leg kicks after one point). Adrenaline causes you to fade aswell and this was a very important chapter in his legacy. Losing 0-2 to Nate would cloud whatever he'd go on to achieve. Nate landed some good ones on Conor and he took them. Even in the clinch he survived when pressured. Usually he walks people down but now he was back against the wall.

Good to see the sportsmanship after fight was over.
What was the gate this time compared to last?

i actually wanna see conor vacate the FW belt and go after alvarez asap.

I much prefer Conor vs Aldo II but I think it will be Alvarez. I think Conor really doesn't want to or maybe even can't make that cut anymore. I think its the reason they haven't announced Alvarez next opponent, they were waiting to see how this fight went.

Seeing as how Conor still has bad cardio even after 5 months of focusing on it, I think Aldo probably beats him if he fights safe and goes the leg kick + grappling route.

I think the Alvarez fight has a very good chance of being pretty boring with Alvarez wrestle fucking him.

On August 21 2016 12:01 whamm! wrote: clearly his fighting weight is not at 170, he even admitted to it that he couldn't get any abs even when eating good (not garbage fatty food like the first fight). at 155 he'll definitely get the best of both worlds - heavy power, better endurance but no deathly weight cut

true. imagine conor vs lawler shit. or even woodlely. and rory and condit...

On August 21 2016 23:33 Stim_Abuser wrote: I much prefer Conor vs Aldo II but I think it will be Alvarez. I think Conor really doesn't want to or maybe even can't make that cut anymore. I think its the reason they haven't announced Alvarez next opponent, they were waiting to see how this fight went. Seeing as how Conor still has bad cardio even after 5 months of focusing on it, I think Aldo probably beats him if he fights safe and goes the leg kick + grappling route. I think the Alvarez fight has a very good chance of being pretty boring with Alvarez wrestle fucking him.

conor should win LW belt asap so we could get conor vs nate 3 asap. that's the idea..

On August 22 2016 03:15 alejandicto wrote: Salaries of both fighters: Conor McGregor: $3,000,000 (no win bonus) def. Nate Diaz: $2,000,000 Shit :O

Conor McGregor: $3 million (no win bonus)
def. Nate Diaz: $2 million

Anthony Johnson: $270,000 (includes $135,000 win bonus)
def. Glover Teixeira: $65,000

Donald Cerrone: $170,000 (includes $85,000 win bonus)
def. Rick Story: $41,000

Mike Perry: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Hyun Gyu Lim: $18,000

Tim Means: $62,000 (includes $31,000 win bonus)
def. Sabah Homasi: $12,000

Cody Garbrandt: $54,000 (includes $27,000 win bonus)
def. Takeya Mizugaki: $39,000

Raquel Pennington: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
def. Elizabeth Phillips: $12,000

Artem Lobov: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Avila: $10,000

Cortney Casey: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Randa Markos: $14,000

Lorenz Larkin: $78,000 (includes $39,000 win bonus)
def. Neil Magny: $47,000

Colby Covington: $42,000 (includes $21,000 win bonus)
def. Max Griffin: $10,000

Marvin Vettori: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Alberto Uda: $10,000

http://bigbrandboys.com/luxury/conor-...mated-15-million-ufc-202-performance/

If I were to guess the number for Conor is somewhere close to reality depending on actual PPV buys. Nate's is probably a lot lower. The entire article seems speculation, but interesting nonetheless.

Took PRs advice betting Perry to win in rnd 1, paid out massive!

Bet Nate v Conor over 1.5 and 2.5 rnds.

Won ML on Larkin, Perry and Artem but lost on story, texeira ad Nate.

I lost my bet on Magny but won on Rumble and Connor.

That salary difference is fucking abismal: 10 K vs 3 million. The reason is obvious, but the minimum payment should be 50 K.

Ways to retire as a UFC fighter right now :

1.Fight McGregor
2. Retire

From what ive read diaz didnt make that much less. Maybe 2 million.

Diaz 10.5 million from ppv shares

Connor 11.5 million from ppv shares.

Both 250k from reebok sponsorship

Both fotn bonus.

Connor got 100k more for his afterparty and 3 million vs 2 million base pay

Diaz didnt get ppv shares in the 1st fight so he did real well for himself here. Really in his financial best interest to have that fight go exactly as it did to get him his best shot at a 3rd fight.

Just to look things from perspective, Diaz made 16k for fighting RDA just 3 fights ago.

It is truly a red panty night when you get to fight Conor.

On August 22 2016 18:53 northsails wrote: Just to look things from perspective, Diaz made 16k for fighting RDA just 3 fights ago. It is truly a red panty night when you get to fight Conor.

Nate also called out Dillon Danis during the post-fight press conference (which didn't get aired live), because Danis is an American who helped an Irishman prepare to fight an American and is thus a traitor.

It's basically Nate talking shit and probably setting up a nice payday in one of those popular BJJ events where he can get a lot of money and publicity for competing. It would actually be cool if it worked out this way, since he could heal up and then have a match with Danis in BJJ, and then take some time off and prepare for his 3rd fight with Conor after Conor fights whomever is next on his hit list.

Earlier this morning, Danis said he'd fight Nate in BJJ and MMA, whichever Nate preferred. Danis just turned 23-years-old today (he looks 30), and he said he'll transition into MMA after he wins some tournament(s) that he has always wanted to win.

Interesting thought Diaz' career is way better off losing to Conor in the second fight than it is beating him. I don't think I've ever seen a similar situation (mainly because usually fighting a superstar implies a belt on the line nor are trilogies common). It's pretty funny.

yeah. i don't get why diaz fans hate conor. conor basically got diaz made. and nate himself knows it. he even mentioned post fight that it will depend on conor what's next. "he's the business man" he said.