Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 114

On March 19 2019 17:43 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2019 16:06 Santafairy wrote: I already sourced this, if you don't have the capacity to click a single link and read an article then uninstall your browser and throw your computer into a river Source what?? Its very clear from my question that I'm not disputing any factual claims in those links even though its Fox News. YOU need to your read your own links and more importantly try to understand them so we don't have another mishap where you think an investigation that actually took place was prevented. You'll see that the FBI obtaining emails wasn't even part of a warrant, which of course wouldn't even really be possible to get since a crime has not even been committed in theory. Clinton willfully turned over her emails and negotiated (lol at fox news for using scare quotes there) that ones unrelated to security not be seen (Clinton foundation). That's your big deep state conspiracy. That's what you're putting up as a match to Trump's cronies actually pleading guilty and being imprisoned. Post some more stuff though and pretend it vindicates you.

okay again manafort is in jail. thumbs up, another corrupt swamp rat drowned

now

keeping in mind that trump isn't manafort just because you hate and want so much for him to be guilty of something, try and calmly explain, what did trump do?

On March 21 2019 10:19 Santafairy wrote: okay again manafort is in jail. thumbs up, another corrupt swamp rat drowned

Its not a random bout of corruption, Manafort laundered money for Putin's Ukrainian puppet and one of his changes he was convicted of was literally 'conspiracy against the United States'. Even if you were to take the line that that fact is entirely coincidental and has nothing to do with Donald Trump or election interference at the very least it completely justifies the existence of the Mueller investigation. Right now, Trump is probably guilty of obstruction of justice and campaign finance violations, which is nothing compared to effective treason but the investigation is still underway and its still a lot worse than anything Hillary Clinton has done.

Your logic is so flawed its painful to read

and its still a lot worse than anything Hillary Clinton has done

People like Clinton and Bolton can get publicly executed and I would have nothing against it.

You're spending so much time thinking about irrelevant stuff though. They are just the current generation of yielding the political power hammer, they might go in jail or be assassinated or whatever and it doesn't even matter since then the next generation of power-hungry imbeciles will come

Your country has sickening problems in the face of gun control, healthcare and education and you spend time on the public circus

Muller's investigation is over, no more indicments, not a single charge about anything related to Russia.



A ridiculous espionage novel about treason because of a ex tape in an attempt to topple an elected president involving the two biggest nuclear powers in the world is just insane, Trump became very aggressive against Russia to prove he wasn't in Putin's pocket, the game the DNC and media played was so unbelivably reckless, they put the entire planet at risk in their fucking bullshit politics game, fuck them.

In before McNasty still claims that Trump is Putin's stooge over some pee sex-tape despise that the investigation coming up with nothing and more importantly that this administration has shat on Russia like no other after the cold war, Crimea sanctions, selling weapons to Ukraine (Obama didnt dare to do that), bombing Syria facilities with Russians in it etc.

Oh also Assange is a Russian operative that Trump hired to help in the elections... that has spent like 5 years imprisoned and is under a secret DOJ indictment with no pardon in sight.

Wait so, Russian stooge Assange wants to disclose the Muller's investigation details... but those details surely contain proof that Trump is also a Russian stooge.


How does this conspiracy work McNasty, this is getting more complicated lol.

Whats satisfying to watch as an outsider that has nothing to do with the USA is how the "left" continue repeating the same mistake over and over and over again and they will eventually push society to re-elect Trump which will be the funniest shit to ever happen in politics since ages.

Anyway if he s that "innocent" , I'm pretty sure Trump can declassify the report and publish it publicly so point fingers at the commission and laugh

I dont think he will for the same reason you shouldn't talk to the police without an attourney even if you are innocent.

Also there isn't really a motivation to do so, do you think the people that are convinced now like McNasty would admit their mistake if the document were released to the public? I seriously doubt it, so it would just give some information and potential political ammunition for no gain at all.

mueller is compromised

it's time to subpoena him

On March 23 2019 02:08 Baalim wrote: I dont think he will for the same reason you shouldn't talk to the police without an attourney even if you are innocent. Also there isn't really a motivation to do so, do you think the people that are convinced now like McNasty would admit their mistake if the document were released to the public? I seriously doubt it, so it would just give some information and potential political ammunition for no gain at all.

Nah, I wouldn't do it as well but for different reasons, the publicity of the document would only cause further chaos in the political realm

On March 22 2019 23:38 Baalim wrote: Muller's investigation is over, no more indicments, not a single charge about anything related to Russia.

This was covered just 2 posts up, you're being really lazy here Baal. Breakdown is here, none of it is opinion its all just factual information. All of the convictions except maybe Cohen are Russia-related, and Cohen's testimony certainly was.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Getting tired of repeating this, but its obvious the Mueller investigation has already proven its worth. If Republicans (or whatever random alt-righties) had their way the investigation would have been shut down and these criminals would still be at large.

On March 22 2019 23:59 Baalim wrote: Wait so, Russian stooge Assange wants to disclose the Muller's investigation details... but those details surely contain proof that Trump is also a Russian stooge.

This is just asking people on the internet for money. Its a complete scam. The idea that wikileaks needs a million dollars to hack William Barr over the weekend is completely absurd.

Also you're doing this weird thing where you're simultaneously spiking the football because Trump was exonerated while at the same time acknowledging that the report hasn't even been released and that Trump is essentially holding the cards on that issue.

On March 23 2019 05:30 Santafairy wrote: mueller is compromised

Its been the WITCH HUNT!! crowd that's been calling Mueller compromised all this time with their 'FBI LOVERS LISA PAGE AND PETER STRZOK!' nonsense. Now that its announced no new indictments (again there are plenty of old ones), all of a sudden Mueller has been legit all along.

Also due to our fucked up laws a sitting president can't be a indicted (federally), the 'no new indictments' only really effects Jared Kusher, Don Jr., and whatever randoms.

As a foreigner I'm always shocked by how much a large percentage of democrat politicians and supporters seem to really hate the United States.

Did you honestly criticize Santa for using Fox news as a source and then posted a link from vox media? Vox should be named SJW Media instead...

Anyway I wont bother clicking the link, since I don't like supporting media that deserve to crash and burn (fwiw I wouldn't open fox news link either). I'm guessing its an article that grasps at straws while making their points look strong at first glance, and be absolutely retarded at 2nd glance

It's actually concerning how many of you use sensationalistic and purposefully lying media as your source of information, I thought differently of the people in this forum

On March 23 2019 16:59 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2019 23:59 Baalim wrote: Wait so, Russian stooge Assange wants to disclose the Muller's investigation details... but those details surely contain proof that Trump is also a Russian stooge. This is just asking people on the internet for money. Its a complete scam. The idea that wikileaks needs a million dollars to hack William Barr over the weekend is completely absurd. Also you're doing this weird thing where you're simultaneously spiking the football because Trump was exonerated while at the same time acknowledging that the report hasn't even been released and that Trump is essentially holding the cards on that issue.

Wikileaks has never hacked anybody, they are a channel for whitelblowers to publish, they require money to operate and I assume a "bounty" on the report is a good way to get it leaked.


The investigation is over, Trump faced no chages yeah, that is an exoneration, I'd like the report to be public but I dont care that much nor expect it to be and as I said I dont expect it to change the opinion of people like you, no matter what it says you will continue to believe the same shit.

On March 24 2019 02:34 Baalim wrote: The investigation is over, Trump faced no chages yeah, that is an exoneration

You just aren't following, legally charges can't be brought against a sitting president, it has to go through Congress.

On March 24 2019 02:03 Spitfiree wrote: Did you honestly criticize Santa for using Fox news as a source and then posted a link from vox media? Vox should be named SJW Media instead... Anyway I wont bother clicking the link, since I don't like supporting media that deserve to crash and burn (fwiw I wouldn't open fox news link either). I'm guessing its an article that grasps at straws while making their points look strong at first glance, and be absolutely retarded at 2nd glance It's actually concerning how many of you use sensationalistic and purposefully lying media as your source of information, I thought differently of the people in this forum

This is just crying FAKE NEWS!!! Use google and whatever source you want, its all just factual information.

On March 24 2019 04:04 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2019 02:34 Baalim wrote: The investigation is over, Trump faced no chages yeah, that is an exoneration You just aren't following, legally charges can't be brought against a sitting president, it has to go through Congress.

They could have brought legal charges against anyone around Trump, but none was brought up because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF COLUSSION outside of liberal fantasies.

Just to make it clear

It says the investigation did not find any evidence that any official in the Trump campaign or administration conspired with Russia in that country’s attempts to interfere with the 2016 election…