Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 14

On December 09 2016 09:30 lostaccount wrote: [ Do you really believe in main stream medias stats? If china wasn't a threat, there wouldn't be so much china hate.

I love it when people completely demolish their own arguments in two following sentences

3 Goldman Sachs personal appointed in key positions

Such radical changes trump is from the 'elite' scumbag politicians

He would probably have to sell his Goldman holdings to avoid conflicts of interest with his new role, which would normally generate a big tax bill immediately. But tax regulations allow executive branch appointees to roll the proceeds of such a sale into Treasury securities and defer capital gains taxes. Mr. Cohn owned 872,712 shares in Goldman as of Nov. 14, according to Standard & Poor’s Global Market Intelligence. As of Friday afternoon’s stock price, that stake was worth about $209 million.

Well I'm in the Markets always and the apocalypse seems to be over or at least, easing out. Global tensions with Russia are tapering, so that keeps China less powerful, without those two buddying up too much China can't do shit anymore. Trump also seems to favor every other country in the region EXCEPT China, so strengthen everyone else is in the world's best interest. Without Russia let's be honest, China can't do shit. The EU is gonna get fucked regardless of Trump or Hillary or Bernie. Gold prices are turning to shit so that's always a good sign panic is waning, BTC though is stronger than usual but I don't wanna think that it says anything

What is your issue with him aside from being an asshole btw? Everybody already knows that and by not giving him at least a fair chance is kind of childish in my opinion, people elected the guy despite of what he's said and it's turning out to be a bunch of rhetoric anyway so get used to it.

I loved this drawing, pretty much describes the political climate in most of the 1st world

On December 10 2016 01:24 whamm! wrote: Well I'm in the Markets always and the apocalypse seems to be over or at least, easing out. Global tensions with Russia are tapering, so that keeps China less powerful, without those two buddying up too much China can't do shit anymore. Trump also seems to favor every other country in the region EXCEPT China, so strengthen everyone else is in the world's best interest. Without Russia let's be honest, China can't do shit. The EU is gonna get fucked regardless of Trump or Hillary or Bernie. Gold prices are turning to shit so that's always a good sign panic is waning, BTC though is stronger than usual but I don't wanna think that it says anything What is your issue with him aside from being an asshole btw? Everybody already knows that and by not giving him at least a fair chance is kind of childish in my opinion, people elected the guy despite of what he's said and it's turning out to be a bunch of rhetoric anyway so get used to it.

You seem to know everything, kudos to your vast geopolitical knowledge and foresight.

Imma keep posting random bits about trump that i find hilarious.

On December 10 2016 02:44 Baalim wrote: I loved this drawing, pretty much describes the political climate in most of the 1st world

Is it odd that I googled that image and all I got is bunch of white nationalist Twitter feeds?
link

lauren southern is a white supremacist now

On December 10 2016 05:28 nolan wrote: lauren southern is a white supremacist now

she is a hottie

uiCk you didn't really believe that Wallstreet will be pushed to the sides ( not a question I'm certain of it )

As I've said things that really matter would be worldwide. Also whamm I don't know what you believe, but Russia is not stronger than China geopolitically, its just that they are making much smarter moves and acquiring assets throughout the planet, not through military interventions, which they only keep in their local region. Otherwise there would be actual major problems about the islands with the USA. They do not care that much about being THE global leader at this point, while Russia has its imperialistic complex of getting so close multiple times, but getting demolished at the finish line. It's all a theater though. I don't think you realize how strong US positions are, never in the history of mankind has someone had such massive control over the planet.

Also, Trump will not go " against" China, as China is one of the major owners of US foreign debt and neither does the improvement of Russia/USA relationships mean that Russia/China relationship will be worse.... Geopolitical moves are almost always only shown by the media post-factum, not beforehand.

I honestly don't understand people that want production to go back to the USA. Why would you ever want that? Why would companies do that? That's literally throwing profit out the door for either the companies(which obviously will never happen ) or the country ( shoving taxpayers money into something thats pointless ... cool ). Trump has already shown that his campaign pledges are a joke, so is this one. You're basically the nation that prints all the money worldwide, you do not need production when the temporary unemployment will force people into higher quality of work. Sure, he might take some light measures, but that would only be to salvage his promises.

On December 10 2016 16:28 Spitfiree wrote: uiCk you didn't really believe that Wallstreet will be pushed to the sides ( not a question I'm certain of it )

Nope, wallstreet and some other entities own US policy.

Also @ Baal , explain pic? Don't recognize the flag on his shoes.

On December 10 2016 17:35 uiCk wrote: Also @ Baal , explain pic? Don't recognize the flag on his shoes.

It is the syndicalist flag, what the image is trying to represent is that the left became authoritarian (communist, socialism syndicalistm etc) and tried to squash the right that in defense also became authoritarian (nationalists, fascists etc).


This is pretty much what happened since the Obama administration the left won the cultural war and they became authoritarian and tried to squash dissidents and still try to do, thats why anything that questioned their ideology was bigotry alienating the center aligning people to the right and the right people turning in to authoritarians which are almost as bad as left authoritarians.

On December 11 2016 05:29 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2016 17:35 uiCk wrote: Also @ Baal , explain pic? Don't recognize the flag on his shoes. It is the syndicalist flag, what the image is trying to represent is that the left became authoritarian (communist, socialism syndicalistm etc) and tried to squash the right that in defense also became authoritarian (nationalists, fascists etc). This is pretty much what happened since the Obama administration the left won the cultural war and they became authoritarian and tried to squash dissidents and still try to do, thats why anything that questioned their ideology was bigotry alienating the center aligning people to the right and the right people turning in to authoritarians which are almost as bad as left authoritarians.

but that flag is red and black which isn't a symbol of syndicalists from the left in general, but of anarchosyndicalists, like the spanish CNT.
So it doesn't really make sense if you're not the alt right (therefore assuming all the things you dislike are practically one and the same)

On December 11 2016 05:29 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2016 17:35 uiCk wrote: Also @ Baal , explain pic? Don't recognize the flag on his shoes. It is the syndicalist flag, what the image is trying to represent is that the left became authoritarian (communist, socialism syndicalistm etc) and tried to squash the right that in defense also became authoritarian (nationalists, fascists etc). This is pretty much what happened since the Obama administration the left won the cultural war and they became authoritarian and tried to squash dissidents and still try to do, thats why anything that questioned their ideology was bigotry alienating the center aligning people to the right and the right people turning in to authoritarians which are almost as bad as left authoritarians.

Damn, that's alot of paranoid nonsense.

On December 10 2016 07:45 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2016 05:28 nolan wrote: lauren southern is a white supremacist now she is a hottie

I had classes in uni with Lauren Southern.

On December 12 2016 20:27 VanDerMeyde wrote: I really like that he is not letting China dictate rest of the world anymore. I remember when Norway gave Liu Xiaobo his prize and China decided to ban every norwegian from entering their country... until coward norwegian politicians apologized (even thou it was a comitee that had nothing to do with the politicians)

Ahem buddy, give me freedom or gave me death. I really hate chinas policy. Too fucking arrogant. True freedom is way more improtant than mere materlistic things.

^^ I agree. There's a reason why innovation always starts in areas where freedom is respected. China has none so it's basically a giant "toll manufacturing country", it's so massive though which is why it is wealthy but easily replacable. Vietnam will benefit greatly from strained US - China relations, I notice the first groups who went to China have left and moved into Vietnam and similar emerging markets, China is also a bit expensive now compared to 10 years ago.

On December 12 2016 00:24 uiCk wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2016 05:29 Baalim wrote:   On December 10 2016 17:35 uiCk wrote: Also @ Baal , explain pic? Don't recognize the flag on his shoes. It is the syndicalist flag, what the image is trying to represent is that the left became authoritarian (communist, socialism syndicalistm etc) and tried to squash the right that in defense also became authoritarian (nationalists, fascists etc). This is pretty much what happened since the Obama administration the left won the cultural war and they became authoritarian and tried to squash dissidents and still try to do, thats why anything that questioned their ideology was bigotry alienating the center aligning people to the right and the right people turning in to authoritarians which are almost as bad as left authoritarians. Damn, that's alot of paranoid nonsense.

it's not that absurd really. State universities are boycotting and protesting speakers like Ben Shapiro and Condaleeza Rice so fervently that it's actually resulting in cancellations. I'm not convinced that would have been the case 10 years ago, and those two in particular are certainly not nearly as controversial as some others.