On September 21 2019 11:22 Stroggoz wrote:
Well you complain about the interview having superficial answers but lets be honest your not going to bother to learn economics and read pollins studies/books on the topic, which go far more in depth. All their answers are backed up with pretty good evidence actually
sisyphean employment? Having jobs that actually save the economy and environment is a lot more meaningful than ones that destroy the environment and print money for a small group of people. There's nothing government enforced about this. millions of people want jobs, and the government can carry out plans to fill those needs. Can argue about how the green new deal should be implemented but no one would make it so the government is forcing people to get jobs in it through legal means.
Well it's not Chomsky's fault abot not going in depth its a casual interview, but you posted the link as it showed something proving your ideas and it doesnt in the least.
I dont mean forcing people to get jobs (wtf), I mean artifically creating jobs to create fulll employment will generate massive inefficiencies and inproductive jobs, this reminds me that often here in México shopping mall managers try to help people by creating sisyphean jobs, you will often find people standing next to the automated parking ticket scanner, they will take your ticket out of your hand and put in the machine that is right next to you, so they automted their jobs but hired them anyway as charity to make a useless sisyphean job, that isn't good for the economy nor the people.
Please address Chomsky factual mistakes about energy price and his (and most climate change hysterics) blindness about nuclear energy, we face an existencial threat and their concern about the perfect solution is "but but... nuclear waste" well a couple of square kilometers in Texas can handle all the nuclear waste the US can produce for the next century so stfu about waste, and that isn't even taking into account the reuse of waste as fuel in 4gen nuclear reactors.
if it happened a long time ago and you can plausibly point to personal ignorance (obviously viable if it was a long time ago) and you apologize then it's fine.. if it wasn't a long time ago, or you can't plausibly point to personal ignorance, or you refuse to apologize, then it's not okay. at worst it's a disingenuous apology, hardly worth outrage.. :D
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Trudeau shoudn't apologize, there is nothing wrong with dressing up as other cultures in costumes parties 20 years ago or in 2019, we don't give a flying fuck if you wear a stupid sombrero, arabs don't give a flying fuck if you dress up as Aladdin, only morons who got in debt studing worthless careers in the humanities are offended by these things.
It is however quite satisfying seeing people who play this pathetic victimhood olympics game being hurt by it, likle it happened to Trudeau.
I just recalled the White girl dressing up in a chinese gown and some moron on twitter being outraged
And then vloggers in China I follow (serpentza, advchina) going to actual T2 cities in china and people were delighted that someone spreads their culture, that they look good in it etc.
But come on Baal, it also makes total sense why north americans would be against black face - the nation still feels guilt for slavery. It's natural to overcompensate for them, Germany has done the same, it's just a natural progression that's better than embracing the old ways of ku klux klan or the Nazi party
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blackjacki2 United States. Sep 22 2019 04:51. Posts 2582
if it happened a long time ago and you can plausibly point to personal ignorance (obviously viable if it was a long time ago) and you apologize then it's fine.. if it wasn't a long time ago, or you can't plausibly point to personal ignorance, or you refuse to apologize, then it's not okay. at worst it's a disingenuous apology, hardly worth outrage.. :D
Trudeau shoudn't apologize, there is nothing wrong with dressing up as other cultures in costumes parties 20 years ago or in 2019, we don't give a flying fuck if you wear a stupid sombrero, arabs don't give a flying fuck if you dress up as Aladdin, only morons who got in debt studing worthless careers in the humanities are offended by these things.
It is however quite satisfying seeing people who play this pathetic victimhood olympics game being hurt by it, likle it happened to Trudeau.
Couldn't agree more. Even if you want to accept whatever bullshit the SJWs decide is offensive as fact, you should at least agree with the concept in law that you can't be found guilty of a crime that wasn't illegal when you committed it. Wearing dark face paint was not considered offensive when Trudeau did it so declaring it offensive 10 years later then trying to go into the past to persecute him for it is unfair.
Having said that, yes, it is quite satisfying to watch.
On September 22 2019 02:47 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
I just recalled the White girl dressing up in a chinese gown and some moron on twitter being outraged
And then vloggers in China I follow (serpentza, advchina) going to actual T2 cities in china and people were delighted that someone spreads their culture, that they look good in it etc.
But come on Baal, it also makes total sense why north americans would be against black face - the nation still feels guilt for slavery. It's natural to overcompensate for them, Germany has done the same, it's just a natural progression that's better than embracing the old ways of ku klux klan or the Nazi party
I understand that black-face is special since it has a history of racism, but Tredeau wasn't even impersonating a black man, he was Aladdin, nothing wrong with that. Also context matters, if you dress up in black-face to mock black stereotypes then its racist, if you dress in black-face because you are playing Bob Marley then that is fine.
It's so tiring that the left and right are so bent into separating people by race, gender, culture, bulshit like this only makes these distinctions more relevant.
from my understanding, blackface should not be grouped together with other types of 'cultural appropriation'. (which I think is generally BS. a large part of why I am pro multiculturalism is that I think exposure to other cultures enriches my own culture - which bases itself around the concept of adopting elements from other cultures that I find positive).
On September 22 2019 05:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
from my understanding, blackface should not be grouped together with other types of 'cultural appropriation'. (which I think is generally BS. a large part of why I am pro multiculturalism is that I think exposure to other cultures enriches my own culture - which bases itself around the concept of adopting elements from other cultures that I find positive).
You can acknowledge it not being the same as others types of cultural appropiation and still believe it is ok to dress a black character, and especially somebody who isn't even black like Aladdin
Dems have gone crazy, it's like they are rushing before the transcript of the fake ukranian collusion is made available to the public. I guess they have to pander to their crazy base? Trump's re-election chances increase by the hour with the crazy democrats performance, I think even republicans taking both houses is on the table now.
Man this is hilarious, US politics are so addictive damn :D
Nobody's being honest
They have this fake outrage at totally standard stuff that's been happening under any president. They're not crazy, it's a strategy
There's 0 chance he will get impeached as it won't pass the senate. They are banking on it dragging without closure long enough to affect the election
- Just watch they will try to drag it, then it will fizzle out if he loses. Right now is about the right time to try to pick something that'd fit the strategy + impeachment.
And Republicans shake heads at what dems are doing
When they were doing exactly the same shit by slightly different means to Obama lol
EDIT: Same as what Biden's done lol
This is just standard behaviour of international behind the scenes politics. He just spoke about it publicly. Nothing to see here everyone just very entertainingly blows shit out proportion to fill their agendas
And btw Gotunk that strategy can work and Trump has done EXACTLY the same thing to Hillary lol
Special prosecutor..."lock her up"...He wins nothing happens, it was all a strategy.
Now Dems transparently will try to find something with a clout of impeachment to drag through the election. That's why they jumped on it. If this won't turn up anything they will try to pick something else. The goal is NOT to actually get rid of trump through it, but to influence the elections
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NMcNasty United States. Sep 25 2019 16:21. Posts 2039
Good morning LP!
Well it looks like the "dems rushing to conclusions" angle was just blown out of the water as the transcript shows exactly what was accused (and that Trump/Giuliani already gave away) in that Trump was trying to withhold military aid in exchange for "a favor".
Of course now comes the inevitable switch from "fake news" to "nothingburger". Being immune to objective reality, there's no level of corruption obvious enough for Republican politicians or the Trump base to actually support impeachment, so yeah, the chance Trump actually gets removed from office is 0. Still, its nice to see democrats finding their spine and actually taking a stand. If you don't offer pushback the laggy donkey gets away with raising more and more garbage.
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Santafairy Korea (South). Sep 25 2019 16:41. Posts 2233
Why won't Biden release his Ukrainian taxes?
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
Hmmm
1) Seems very polished, like that doctor's letter for Trump - seems fake? lol
2) Obviously don't see anything wrong in this transcript if it's to be believed - certainly not to get rid of sitting president come on
But seriously
Wtf looks so comical with the eye popping classified/declassified, polished grammar and thought out sentences, that's a very edited transcript for show noway it's literal lol
Hmmm
1) Seems very polished, like that doctor's letter for Trump - seems fake? lol
2) Obviously don't see anything wrong in this transcript if it's to be believed - certainly not to get rid of sitting president come on
But seriously
Wtf looks so comical with the eye popping classified/declassified, polished grammar and thought out sentences, that's a very edited transcript for show noway it's literal lol
It is the oficial transcript, unless Democrats come up with allegations that it is fake, the whole "ukranian collusion" is just another nothing burger.
With the evidence we have, "impeachment" is just a democrat circus to pander to their base.
Edit: To your apreciation, this is typed down live and not recorded. Professional stenographers write down the stuff while the conversation is happening, prolly eliminate repeated words, thinking pauses in speech and other stuff.
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