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uiCk   Canada. Dec 22 2016 17:14. Posts 3521

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.forbes....wdstrike/?client=ms-android-rogers-ca

Crowd strike, must be another private intelligence agency fabricating lies for the CIA and DNC


And when Russians are going to heavily try and disturb the political elections of France and Germany, it'll be another lie, amiright?

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uiCk   Canada. Dec 22 2016 18:00. Posts 3521

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

sniderstyle   United States. Dec 22 2016 18:18. Posts 2046


  On December 22 2016 16:14 uiCk wrote:
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.forbes....wdstrike/?client=ms-android-rogers-ca

Crowd strike, must be another private intelligence agency fabricating lies for the CIA and DNC


And when Russians are going to heavily try and disturb the political elections of France and Germany, it'll be another lie, amiright?




The only thing released was the truth.
DNC rigged the primaries against the useful idiot Bernie Sanders. - Debbie Washerman Schultz was fired
CNN colluded with the DNC - Donna Brazille fed debate questions ahead of time to Hillary (She was fired)
both of these are just the tip of the iceberg IMO for anyone watching CNN during the election knows that it was completely agenda driven.

Must be hard for Dems to see source documents exposing them.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Dec 22 2016 19:46. Posts 2233

"hacked the election" isn't a phrase that even begins to make sense. what does that mean? "hack the election," complete nonsense

nobody has put any evidence of what they're talking about or elaborated what this is supposed to be about

there was something about a phishing site in the podesta emails i think? and the corporate media have echoed this unreliable hearsay source from an unreliable paper, combined with shit flinging from the president, into PUTIN hacked the ELECTION. certain liberals have developed psychological conditions or something

the media is desperately looking to actually be right about something to save face. so they keep trying to target trump lackeys like bannon at first, now flynn, the media really wants to finally win a point, that's why this "hacking" talk has blown up

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

uiCk   Canada. Dec 22 2016 20:49. Posts 3521


  On December 22 2016 18:46 Santafairy wrote:
"hacked the election" isn't a phrase that even begins to make sense. what does that mean? "hack the election," complete nonsense

nobody has put any evidence of what they're talking about or elaborated what this is supposed to be about

there was something about a phishing site in the podesta emails i think? and the corporate media have echoed this unreliable hearsay source from an unreliable paper, combined with shit flinging from the president, into PUTIN hacked the ELECTION. certain liberals have developed psychological conditions or something

the media is desperately looking to actually be right about something to save face. so they keep trying to target trump lackeys like bannon at first, now flynn, the media really wants to finally win a point, that's why this "hacking" talk has blown up


Do you believe other nations would not mimic the USA tactics of disturbing political processes of other nations for X reasons?


CIA's division that deals with exactly that:

  Political Action Group (PAG) is responsible for covert activities related to political influence, psychological operations and economic warfare.

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Mortensen8   Chad. Dec 22 2016 21:51. Posts 1841

Guy fakes every video like every other youtube prankster. BBC desperate for something to fit their narrative puts that article on the main page. I know they wrote that he claimed but most are not going to read the entire article and only look at his video you had to read far to see the bs about travelling in suitcase.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Dec 23 2016 00:56. Posts 2233


  On December 22 2016 19:49 uiCk wrote:
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Do you believe other nations would not mimic the USA tactics of disturbing political processes of other nations for X reasons?

thanks for clarifying with good old ironclad proof like this

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2016 02:25. Posts 34262


  On December 22 2016 16:05 uiCk wrote:

And yes it is that simple, wealth and welathy people control Policy and use Political parties to control policy. It's always been like that and always will be like that, until the masses control the wealth.



wealthy people control everything but not as puppeteer act, they are very influential especially in a country where lobbying is legal.

The relation between state and wealth its more of a symbiosis, an exchange of favors between ruthless people in their pursue of power, Obama does not lead the world but neither does Rothchild, while both individually very powerful, they are equally powerless in the grand scheme of things, the "system" is a headless monster.


And about skeptical or mistrusting, who give a shit about semanitcs? What I mean is to never take the CIA word for anything especially when the claim helps their agenda, and I am skeptical about it thats why I dont deny the Russians did it, I said I dont know, and you dont know either.


I read an article recently about McAfee saying that its impossible to have forensic evidence of the Russian hack that it would be like finding a grain of sand in the beach, so any evidence the CIA could have is from inside sources so there will never be evidence presented and the best we will get is "trust us".

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uiCk   Canada. Dec 23 2016 14:11. Posts 3521


  On December 22 2016 23:56 Santafairy wrote:
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thanks for clarifying with good old ironclad proof like this


Not looking for proof, am discussing reasoning, while you guys just "omg brainwashed, obviously they all lie!" Have it all figured out.

And Baal, my wealth controls policy was in response to spitefiree claiming that Democratic party controls the intelligence agencies in the USA, which is complete dogshit.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 23 2016 18:03. Posts 9634

They are getting their chiefs replaced with Trump's administration, must be a coincidence....

The only reasoning you should have, when someone is claiming something, is him providing proof. Any other way of thinking is ignorant. "Why would they lie" or "Why are all organisations saying the same thing" without providing proof makes conspiracy theorists look like people that are stating facts compared to those agancies's claims.... Blindly trusting someone that has plenty to gain by lying to you and has a history of doing so is just dumb.


uiCk   Canada. Dec 23 2016 18:19. Posts 3521

Yes, let me get on CIA hotline and get those proofs...

Cool discussion, I guess that's that.

And love you tell me that, yet make claims that Democrats run the CIA/NSA/FBI
Pot meet ketle.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Dec 23 2016 19:05. Posts 2233


  On December 23 2016 13:11 uiCk wrote:
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Not looking for proof, am discussing reasoning, while you guys just "omg brainwashed, obviously they all lie!" Have it all figured out.

And Baal, my wealth controls policy was in response to spitefiree claiming that Democratic party controls the intelligence agencies in the USA, which is complete dogshit.


your reasoning (innuendo) roughly amounts to the CIA tried to assassinate Castro, therefore Putin hacked the US election for president in 2016, but without being able to explain what that's specifically supposed to mean because everyone's just making it up

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

uiCk   Canada. Dec 23 2016 19:46. Posts 3521


  On December 23 2016 18:05 Santafairy wrote:
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your reasoning (innuendo) roughly amounts to the CIA tried to assassinate Castro, therefore Putin hacked the US election for president in 2016, but without being able to explain what that's specifically supposed to mean because everyone's just making it up



Nah my reasoning is simple, am trying to discuss cyberwar and political distribution within nations for X purpose.
It's you guys who are hell-bent on talking about legitimacy of CIA, Media and Left vs Right, specific proofs etc. I'm OK , and have weighted in, as I stated prior, that CIA does conduct operations on its own people for X reason, see Iraq war.

My reasoning is that other nations use propaganda/missinformation to disrupt and create an environment of confusion within that population towards their gouvernement and institutions. I've always been fascinated by covert operations involving social media and traditional media, general progaganda to help reach a goal, like for example the uprising in many Arab countries not that long ago, facilitated by CIA operations.

I understand, you guys prefer to make assumptions on me, validate your stance, and feel great that "lol this asshole so blind, belives in CIA lies lulz'
Not to mention you just made up such a ridiculous assumption, without me ever mentioning any of those things you just said.

Also side notefunny all this anti media rethoric, comes from the media itself (Trump is the mainstream media)

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Mortensen8   Chad. Dec 23 2016 21:31. Posts 1841


Ah ye the CIA a bastion of honesty and moral courage. Did not conduct mkultra or anything. Pro tip in any hierarchical institution psychopaths/sociopaths (same thing) reach the top not exactly known for their honesty and good will.

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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2016 22:08. Posts 34262


  On December 23 2016 18:46 uiCk wrote:

My reasoning is that other nations use propaganda/missinformation to disrupt and create an environment of confusion within that population towards their gouvernement and institutions.



I dont think people here doubt Rusia could be responsible of the hacks, but DID they?, we dont know.

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whamm!   Albania. Dec 23 2016 23:52. Posts 11625

Burn after Reading - Great movie, relevant in today's events lol


Mortensen8   Chad. Dec 24 2016 02:18. Posts 1841

Rear naked woke 

Baalim   Mexico. Dec 24 2016 07:43. Posts 34262


  On December 23 2016 22:52 whamm! wrote:
Burn after Reading - Great movie, relevant in today's events lol




damn that scene is very well made

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Dec 24 2016 12:27. Posts 3096

one of the more hilarious moments from any movie, for me.

lol POKER 

Loco   Canada. Dec 27 2016 17:34. Posts 20967

lol I had forgotten this scene. Not as good as a gif though, the build up to it in the movie is what really makes it.

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