Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 236

On June 28 2020 02:46 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2020 10:15 Loco wrote:   On June 27 2020 06:04 Baalim wrote:   On June 26 2020 21:04 Loco wrote: he should seek some professional help because he seems to have gone on for 3 decades with at least one undiagnosed learning disability. I don't mean to sound offensive by saying that, I don't believe there is any shame in that. Nonstop SJW bitching about "ableism" yet you make the same insults but think its ok because you finish with a "but there is no shame in that". You hypocricy is disgusting. It's not an insult, it's an observation. It's clearly not something trivial, and there is nothing funny about it. That people seek help when they face challenges or that you think that having a learning disability makes you look less smart or cool and therefore assume it is an insult is not something I can control, but it's not something that I personally believe. pathetic. You are mentally challenged, its not an insult, it's an observation and not something trivial, get that checked out bro.

The issue is not that you have learning difficulties, it's that you consistently refuse to take responsibility for them. Your ego seemingly always comes first; and your ego doesn't like the idea of learning or requiring outside support. If there is something you should feel some shame about it's that. It's how fragile you are, it's not the difficulties. It's admirable when someone faces their deficiencies head-on and doesn't make excuses for them or constantly shift the blame onto others. (Here your first impulse is almost certainly going to be just that: avoid the criticism and shift the topic to my ego as you've consistently done in the past.)

I know a lot of this has to do with the structure and culture of the internet and the "memefication" of dialogue which lends itself to a simplified understanding of reality and an over-dependence on talking points for ego gratification, but clearly, it can't be reduced to that alone. We have to assume that we have at least some agency; that we are not forced to conform, always take the path of least resistance, and indulge every impulse we have and be almost entirely predictable in our responses to others as a result. That shouldn't be a fun game to play for an emotionally mature adult. Deepening and enriching your understanding of things should be a lot more rewarding than attempting to dominate people with "gotchas" and memes over the internet.

There is a lot of irony involved when you give the "strict father" talk to others about taking personal responsibility while you yourself never examining why your behavior is so toxic and how it is strictly dependent on your not doing precisely that. As social animals we provably have a responsibility towards each other because social transmission is how we became who we are and it restricts who we can become. I'd argue that nearly all of our potentialities are locked into a framework of social exchange where the ability to listen is absolutely foundational.

You have explicitly stated that "most people are idiots" and you don't feel the need to listen to them. What can come from that attitude other than petty, self-indulgent, self-congratulatory behavior? How can someone have a desire to learn and grow as an individual with this kind of outlook? It only follows from that general attitude that your politics would be all about giving power to some group of narcissistic tyrannical elites who "know better", because, well, that's how you feel about yourself.

^lol

On June 28 2020 11:00 Stroggoz wrote: not saying your right and wrong on this topic (im not following this discussion), but saying 'i live here' as a defense is not a good one, particularly if it's as large as something like a nation. Thought i'd bring this up because its a weak defense and you use it a lot. I've met poli sci graduates from my own country that didn't know about real wage stagnation in new zealand since 1984, which to me means they know little about what the political system is, and neither do most of the indigenous population here (i'm guessing-but from my experience probably not), and i have leftist friends from south east asia that support derterte, which i critique instantly. As with the broad views on culture...there are many different groups, classes and cultures within nations, and all nations have classes with different opposing views-it's very suspicious to repeatedly appeal to some epistimelogical advantage from living in a country. Obviously this applies to critiquing anything you have not been a part of or experienced, i don't see you applying this same principle to critiquing social/political movements you've never been a part of, (which is perfectly fine to do, but you should realise you have double standards with this principle).

First of all, it was Loco who said he listens to people and doesn't pretend to know more about their situation, which is nothing more than virtue signaling SJW line parroting.

I don't just live in a country I said I live 10 minutes away with a town with 70% marginalization rate, I interact with people from this town every single fucking day, every mexican interacts with indigenous people every single fucking day, as I've already explained the spanyards didnt exterminate and isolate the indigenous population, they mixed with them, there isnt a hard division of who is and who isn't indigenous, and yes that makes me much more qualified to talk about mexican culture than some random canadian moron who has never even seen an indigenous mexican in his life, and hasn't even set a foot on the god damn country ffs... He thinks Cheran is some kind of exception while its the norm, he doesnt even know mexican land laws and pretends to know the cusoms and values of towns because a region in Oaxaca has a 3rd gender lol.

I wouldn't be confident to try to teach you about Newzelander and Maori's culture and values unless I reaaaaally had my shit together on the subject, a couple of VICE articles wouldn't be enough but I guess for Loco they are as long as it fits with his dogma.

On June 28 2020 14:04 Loco wrote: The issue is not that you have learning difficulties, it's that you consistently refuse to take responsibility for them. Your ego seemingly always comes first; and your ego doesn't like the idea of learning or requiring outside support. If there is something you should feel some shame about it's that. It's how fragile you are, it's not the difficulties. It's admirable when someone faces their deficiencies head-on and doesn't make excuses for them or constantly shift the blame onto others. (Here your first impulse is almost certainly going to be just that: avoid the criticism and shift the topic to my ego as you've consistently done in the past.) I know a lot of this has to do with the structure and culture of the internet and the "memefication" of dialogue which lends itself to a simplified understanding of reality and an over-dependence on talking points for ego gratification, but clearly, it can't be reduced to that alone. We have to assume that we have at least some agency; that we are not forced to conform, always take the path of least resistance, and indulge every impulse we have and be almost entirely predictable in our responses to others as a result. That shouldn't be a fun game to play for an emotionally mature adult. Deepening and enriching your understanding of things should be a lot more rewarding than attempting to dominate people with "gotchas" and memes over the internet. There is a lot of irony involved when you give the "strict father" talk to others about taking personal responsibility while you yourself never examining why your behavior is so toxic and how it is strictly dependent on your not doing precisely that. As social animals we provably have a responsibility towards each other because social transmission is how we became who we are and it restricts who we can become. I'd argue that nearly all of our potentialities are locked into a framework of social exchange where the ability to listen is absolutely foundational. You have explicitly stated that "most people are idiots" and you don't feel the need to listen to them. What can come from that attitude other than petty, self-indulgent, self-congratulatory behavior? How can someone have a desire to learn and grow as an individual with this kind of outlook? It only follows from that general attitude that your politics would be all about giving power to some group of narcissistic tyrannical elites who "know better", because, well, that's how you feel about yourself.

I refuse responsibility? That coming from the hypocrite who cries about ableist insults but when he says "you have learning disabilities" that wasn't a dig it was a serious concern lol.

I talk about your ego because you see yourself as some kind of ascetic knowledge and truth seeker being and you actually believe you are humble, you absolute maniac, I wear my ego on my sleeve and when I call you retard I mean it, I dont try to weasel out of it with "oh it was an observation".

Most people are idiots, not many truths in this world are more obvious than this one, and as I've said like 100 times now but it seems to get past your head heres for 101th time, I think people should be free to forge their own lives, nobody will impose onto you the will of the few or the many, and please, spare me your response about negative freedom.

On June 28 2020 15:04 CurbStomp wrote:

with that nickname I was expecting that GIF days ago tbh.

On other news, Ken and Karen pull out guns against protestors and get doxxed:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/88...k-lives-matter-protesters-in-st-louis



However it turns out that the protesters broke a fence and went into private property to destroy the house:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rching-demand-mayors-resignation.html

Reddit banned r/The_donald. Twitch banned Trump's campaign channel. Youtube suspended Stefan Molyneux's channel. All of this happening on the same day seems a little too coincidental

On June 29 2020 23:09 blackjacki2 wrote: Reddit banned r/The_donald. Twitch banned Trump's campaign channel. Youtube suspended Stefan Molyneux's channel. All of this happening on the same day seems a little too coincidental

He threatened twitter, what did he expect will happen? Good luck bringing down internet giants as a politician lmao

Also Twitch belongs to Bezos so no wonder there

On June 29 2020 23:09 blackjacki2 wrote: Reddit banned r/The_donald. Twitch banned Trump's campaign channel. Youtube suspended Stefan Molyneux's channel. All of this happening on the same day seems a little too coincidental

You forgot to mention that they banned two of the most popular leftist subreddits as well, cumtown and chapotraphouse.

It's not a coincidence, they are all feeling more pressure to uphold their terms of service right now.

Also the_Donald has been dead for months so this is just optics. They moved to their own website since like February.

On June 30 2020 01:16 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2020 23:09 blackjacki2 wrote: Reddit banned r/The_donald. Twitch banned Trump's campaign channel. Youtube suspended Stefan Molyneux's channel. All of this happening on the same day seems a little too coincidental You forgot to mention that they banned two of the most popular leftist subreddits as well, cumtown and chapotraphouse. It's not a coincidence, they are all feeling more pressure to uphold their terms of service right now.

live by the sword, die by the sword

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020...r-statue-looked-following-complaints/


LOLOL I thought I was talking in hyperbole when I mentioned taking down statues of Roman emperors, guess not.

On June 30 2020 01:16 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2020 23:09 blackjacki2 wrote: Reddit banned r/The_donald. Twitch banned Trump's campaign channel. Youtube suspended Stefan Molyneux's channel. All of this happening on the same day seems a little too coincidental You forgot to mention that they banned two of the most popular leftist subreddits as well, cumtown and chapotraphouse. It's not a coincidence, they are all feeling more pressure to uphold their terms of service right now. Also the_Donald has been dead for months so this is just optics. They moved to their own website since like February.

I didnt know the_donald moved until I read it on tim pool's twitter. Also never heard of those other subreddits

/pol/ still going strong. Hope that won't change.

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User was warned for this post.

was bored had some memes i didn't post

Its about time that someone gives Curb some timeout

Issued a warning, next time will be a ban.

Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on.