Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 237

On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on.

You consitently post commie garbage yet here you are, lol dude you've supported murderous dictators, gulags and said that everyone who doesn't agree with reparations deeply racist, so you are lucky i'm not a censorious closet authoritarian like you are, he gets a warning and if he shows he can't behave then he is gone.

On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on.

CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken.

Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective.

This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby.

On June 29 2020 20:34 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2020 11:00 Stroggoz wrote: not saying your right and wrong on this topic (im not following this discussion), but saying 'i live here' as a defense is not a good one, particularly if it's as large as something like a nation. Thought i'd bring this up because its a weak defense and you use it a lot. I've met poli sci graduates from my own country that didn't know about real wage stagnation in new zealand since 1984, which to me means they know little about what the political system is, and neither do most of the indigenous population here (i'm guessing-but from my experience probably not), and i have leftist friends from south east asia that support derterte, which i critique instantly. As with the broad views on culture...there are many different groups, classes and cultures within nations, and all nations have classes with different opposing views-it's very suspicious to repeatedly appeal to some epistimelogical advantage from living in a country. Obviously this applies to critiquing anything you have not been a part of or experienced, i don't see you applying this same principle to critiquing social/political movements you've never been a part of, (which is perfectly fine to do, but you should realise you have double standards with this principle). First of all, it was Loco who said he listens to people and doesn't pretend to know more about their situation, which is nothing more than virtue signaling SJW line parroting. I don't just live in a country I said I live 10 minutes away with a town with 70% marginalization rate, I interact with people from this town every single fucking day, every mexican interacts with indigenous people every single fucking day, as I've already explained the spanyards didnt exterminate and isolate the indigenous population, they mixed with them, there isnt a hard division of who is and who isn't indigenous, and yes that makes me much more qualified to talk about mexican culture than some random canadian moron who has never even seen an indigenous mexican in his life, and hasn't even set a foot on the god damn country ffs... He thinks Cheran is some kind of exception while its the norm, he doesnt even know mexican land laws and pretends to know the cusoms and values of towns because a region in Oaxaca has a 3rd gender lol. I wouldn't be confident to try to teach you about Newzelander and Maori's culture and values unless I reaaaaally had my shit together on the subject, a couple of VICE articles wouldn't be enough but I guess for Loco they are as long as it fits with his dogma.

you critique universities all the time even though your not part of that culture, which is fine. There are academics who think universities are 'left', and they are completely wrong, as one can see from the huge amount of influence of corporate and state finance for research and it's effect on the humanities and sciences. It's a weak defense to say you can't critique a culture if you've never been part of it. I'm sure the fox new's presenter know's a lot of things about the culture of fox news than i don't but it's not going to stop me from pointing out its flaws. As for maori culture, there are plenty of reasonable things to critique about it, it was a pretty violent culture. But obv focusing criticism on them is a waste of time since that culture is not powerful

On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby.

You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal.

His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning.

"A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death."

The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views

Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things.

On July 01 2020 07:18 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. You consitently post commie garbage yet here you are, lol dude you've supported murderous dictators, gulags and said that everyone who doesn't agree with reparations deeply racist, so you are lucky i'm not a censorious closet authoritarian like you are, he gets a warning and if he shows he can't behave then he is gone.

You currently support modern gulags in the form of private prisons since you are a libertarian. You've also supported murderous dictators, for instance Pinochet, which you have indirectly praised by praising Milton Friedman and the interventions of the Chicago boys in Chile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Chile

out of curbstomp's 26 posts I think they've all been either devoid of any content or racist. the chance of him suddenly turning around to become a thoughtful contributor with anything worthwhile to say is pretty damn close to zero. No reason to keep him around. Edit: Actually his posts in the RIKD blog are the closest he gets to contributing, I guess he might have something to add on the topic of mental illness.

On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things.

Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating.

CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp".

Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp.

Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD.

Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck.

On July 01 2020 14:38 Liquid`Drone wrote: out of curbstomp's 26 posts I think they've all been either devoid of any content or racist. the chance of him suddenly turning around to become a thoughtful contributor with anything worthwhile to say is pretty damn close to zero. No reason to keep him around. Edit: Actually his posts in the RIKD blog are the closest he gets to contributing, I guess he might have something to add on the topic of mental illness.

I'm not entirely disagreeing with you but he made a post making fun of Loco's "your not a psychiatrist" argument that was not racist and I would not consider devoid of content.

Also "everything he says is racist" is unfair. Saying for example immigrants commit much more crime and dismissing it as simply "racist" is obviously an unfair characterization. Arguing in favor of banning affirmative action is not racist.

On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD.

Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here.

You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. Calling disabled people and people who struggle with severe mental illness lazy and parasitic is also a very common and casual fascist dog whistle, and that is what he was engaging in, that was the extent of his "contribution". You've also engaged in these talking points, the idea of racial superiority and the idea that RiKD and I are degenerate scumbags who don't contribute to society and don't deserve to live, so it's no surprise that you sympathize with this guy.

But I get that Liquidpoker is a space that normalizes hateful views and abusive behaviour, and in that sense, CurbStomp belongs here way more than I do, so I don't think he should be banned. I think there should just be an exodus of people who have no interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore.

Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck

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On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery.

lol ur a full retard. y don't u read the things i write first? Pls come be my guest on the inaugural episode of the "Why is Loco a Dumbfuck Podcast" we can discuss on there.

On July 01 2020 15:36 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. lol ur a full retard. y don't u read the things i write first? Pls come be my guest on the inaugural episode of the "Why is Loco a Dumbfuck Podcast" we can discuss on there.

just quoting this before you remove it in typical hiems fashion because you realize how bad it makes you look. also will be my last response to you ever.

Oh, and, abusers are worthy of empathy and consolation only after they have expressed regret for their actions, not before. There are plenty of people willing to help them if they are ready to take responsibility for their behavior. Enabling abuse and violence is not empathetic, it's idiotic and dysfunctional.

Lol what?

On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. Calling disabled people and people who struggle with severe mental illness lazy and parasitic is also a very common and casual fascist dog whistle, and that is what he was engaging in, that was the extent of his "contribution". You've also engaged in these talking points, the idea of racial superiority and the idea that RiKD and I are degenerate scumbags who don't contribute to society and don't deserve to live, so it's no surprise that you sympathize with this guy. But I get that Liquidpoker is a space that normalizes hateful views and abusive behaviour, and in that sense, CurbStomp belongs here way more than I do, so I don't think he should be banned. I think there should just be an exodus of people who have no interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore.

Where do we go? I don't have any interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore. I suppose I should take my thoughts to a private journal but I still do miss engagement.

On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. Calling disabled people and people who struggle with severe mental illness lazy and parasitic is also a very common and casual fascist dog whistle, and that is what he was engaging in, that was the extent of his "contribution". You've also engaged in these talking points, the idea of racial superiority and the idea that RiKD and I are degenerate scumbags who don't contribute to society and don't deserve to live, so it's no surprise that you sympathize with this guy. But I get that Liquidpoker is a space that normalizes hateful views and abusive behaviour, and in that sense, CurbStomp belongs here way more than I do, so I don't think he should be banned. I think there should just be an exodus of people who have no interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore.

Me saying maybe he had something to contribute with regarding mental illness was not a compliment to his posting..

On July 01 2020 15:52 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. Calling disabled people and people who struggle with severe mental illness lazy and parasitic is also a very common and casual fascist dog whistle, and that is what he was engaging in, that was the extent of his "contribution". You've also engaged in these talking points, the idea of racial superiority and the idea that RiKD and I are degenerate scumbags who don't contribute to society and don't deserve to live, so it's no surprise that you sympathize with this guy. But I get that Liquidpoker is a space that normalizes hateful views and abusive behaviour, and in that sense, CurbStomp belongs here way more than I do, so I don't think he should be banned. I think there should just be an exodus of people who have no interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore. Where do we go? I don't have any interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore. I suppose I should take my thoughts to a private journal but I still do miss engagement.

Just google "online journaling community" and look at your options there. You can also look to follow/connect with disability rights activists (there are a lot of them) as they can share useful resources for you, and you could try to join a group centered on neurodivergence. When most of the engagement you get is people doubting your reality, belittling and ridiculing you, you're in the wrong place.

On July 01 2020 16:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2020 15:27 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 14:45 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 13:38 Loco wrote:   On July 01 2020 09:56 hiems wrote:   On July 01 2020 02:49 Loco wrote: Yeah, the guy who has been consistently posting fascist garbage, including a .gif at the top of this page where he superimposed your face on a Neo-Nazi crushing the jaw of a black man on the curb, which he took his username from, is definitely going to start behaving like a normal human being now. You show him, Baal! Must be nice to have people like this on your side cheering you on. CurbStomp appeared out of nowhere until just recently. He posted something worthy of warning exactly 2 days before warning was handed out. We don't know much at all about CurbStomp. He ramped it up with the gif 2 days ago but before that it was a wait and see type of thing. I do think the gif and subsequent post was too hardcore, and action was taken. Its funny tho how you refuse to feel any empathy for the guy or try to understand him at all and instead only want to see him as a boogeyman. So much for being a champion of mental health / being objective. This is unlike RiKD who should have been warned YEARS ago and yet you and team vagina continue to coddle him/cheer him on like a baby. You're confabulating. CurbStomp admitted at the very beginning of RiKD's Blog Thread (first page, second post) that he was evading a ban from Baal. His name and early posts alone should be telling enough to anyone who can use inductive reasoning. "A curb stomp, also called curbing, curb checking, curb painting, or making someone bite the curb is a form of assault in which a victim's mouth is forcefully placed on a curb and then stomped from behind, causing severe injuries and sometimes death." The most famous scene involving a curb stomp is the one that he posted and photoshopped from American History X, which involves a Neo-Nazi killing a black man in this fashion. These are not just dog whistles, these are explicit statements. Anyone who is not deliberately trying to avoid noticing what he stands for can see what he stands for. He posted a bunch of extremely racist and fascist talking points from the beginning. He admits to loving /pol/, which is one of the most visited website for extreme racists and fascists on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/#Political_views Baal is just incompetent. He's also been coddling up to the alt-right for a good year now and spreading their Tweets, so of course he doesn't notice or care about these things. Ok u dumbfuck. Your the one that is confabulating. CurbStomp did not say "he was evading Baal's ban." He said that Baal banned him a long time ago (presumably) and for whatever reason CS decided to casually return on a different account. That is not exactly the same as evading a ban. Ppl change over time and we have no idea who the other account is. There are been posters in the history of forums that have casually returned as such and its not really a practice of insta-banning ppl again after a long period, even if they are named "CurbStomp". Baal warned the guy 2 days after the made that post. Idk what else you want from him. A ban is reasonble too, I agree with you but I'm not the mod so I have't thought it through that much tbh. You are definitely overexaggerating when you say that there wasn't a "wait and see" period with CurbStomp. Lastly, you are a hypocrite when it comes to CurbStomp vs RiKD. Edit : yes everything the supposed "alt-right" says is automatically bad. Way to keep an open mind you dumbfuck. Dude, this can't be the hill you choose to die on. Wtf. The guy is an overt fascist who comes from a place on the internet that is famous for praising mass-murdering racists and fascists and actively spawns them. He literally just told us about it. He literally just posted a .gif that tells us precisely why he has chosen this username. There is no ambiguity here. There is not something to be tolerant and open-minded about here. You are extremely naive and so is Drone. This guy never went on RiKD's blog to contribute something that is positive. He was bullying him from the start. His first statement was made to antagonize him and make him feel inferior and gaslight him into thinking that his central problem is a bad work ethic and a lack of appreciation for soul-crushing wage slavery. Calling disabled people and people who struggle with severe mental illness lazy and parasitic is also a very common and casual fascist dog whistle, and that is what he was engaging in, that was the extent of his "contribution". You've also engaged in these talking points, the idea of racial superiority and the idea that RiKD and I are degenerate scumbags who don't contribute to society and don't deserve to live, so it's no surprise that you sympathize with this guy. But I get that Liquidpoker is a space that normalizes hateful views and abusive behaviour, and in that sense, CurbStomp belongs here way more than I do, so I don't think he should be banned. I think there should just be an exodus of people who have no interest in pretending like this is a place worthy of engagement anymore. Me saying maybe he had something to contribute with regarding mental illness was not a compliment to his posting..

Consistently invalidating someone-- if not directly insulting them-- and implying or saying you know better than them how to treat or manage an illness (or multiple illnesses) that you don't suffer from is not something that we can reasonably consider to be a contribution. Saying "my work helped me with schizophrenia" is useful in the context of talking with someone about different forms of work and what kind of work is more suitable for you and someone in a similar situation as yours. If someone doesn't have schizophrenia, but also says that their job is making their life worse, you don't say "well it's because you don't work" or "it's because you don't work hard enough" or some other bullshit. This is not a contribution.

contribution: "something that you contribute or do to help produce or achieve something together with other people, or to help make something successful." The precondition for a contribution is a shared experience, mutual goal, or mutual respect. If you're posting about an experience overcoming some challenge just in order to make yourself feel better and make another person feel inadequate it would be better if you said nothing.

On April 29 2020 06:23 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2020 13:43 Santafairy wrote: if a company were to take boeing market share it would be airbus which is not an american company and therefore not something the american government would be eager to encourage because no other company knows how to make huge airliners do you know what "barrier to entry" means spit "joker" firee it's simple we replace the 100 year old 150k employee aerospace giant yeah all that intellectual capital? century of experience? economies of scale? supply chain? long term planning and R&D? bollocks it can't be that hard to start designing and manufacturing en masse a family of airliners that carry hundreds of people oh what about the huge legacy fleet oh shit my 777 is broken oh just take it back to the boeing 777 factory oops it's gone do you know why airbus and boeing are a duopoly now? you fucking idiot? the same reason other companies don't penetrate the market now is the same reason one wouldn't supplant boeing. they can't make a reliable product at a competitive price without huge investments of time and capital. same with airlines. what are you TALKING ABOUT if you want new airlines the consumer will have to teach them how to be efficient by investing the consumers' time and capital which will be more expensive than actually the streamlined efficient industry we have now i can see the ads now fly our new Dohing 666 here which has had 0 crashes and 0 flights at phoenix airlines for the low low price of $800 to visit one of america's decaying airports great economic leadership The duopoly exist precisely because of their bribe the government into maintaining it like it is now with the bailout. The company doesn't dissapear nor Airbus is going to buy all the assets of a company when they themselves are in financial trouble lol, the company scale down, the rest of the assets are bough by smaller companies which will be far more efficient and better than Boeing. You have it all backwards you think massive monopolies embedded with the state are the epitome of efficiency, "oh but who will have the experience!" lol dumbass, especially in an age where Tesla blew out of the water auto makers far bigger and older than Boeing, and then Space X takes the space exploration lead in the world with a team of young engineers and scientists. The talented engineers in Boeing will get jobs in the upcoming aerospace industry, the dead weight labor will be left behind. The economy doesn't need state leadership, quite the contrary it needs the state to get the fuck out of the way.

the talented welders of detroit will get jobs in the upcoming car industry

On April 29 2020 06:28 Baalim wrote: What is funny is that for someone so behemently anti-socialist like Santafiry he sure has quite socialistic ideas: The mother land's plane-building factory must be saved by the state in order to keep its legacy and protect its workers... lol.

i don't think you've paid enough attention to know what i believe you just have some meme conception of me

and you didn't read, it's not an emotional issue about anyone's legacy

but yes, in general it's the government's job to protect their own domestic companies not just kill boeing to let airbus corner the market... same way korea protects samsung... i don't get your worldview "there's a worldwide pandemic so the freemarket says to rape your own companies"

the way you should have approached this was to treat me as a rational person and say "this boeing thing it's more of an excuse, any issues of boeing predate or aren't related to corona but they want to use it as cover to get the bailout bux" or make some grounded point

you might hate government and think it shouldn't exist

but given that it exists and collects taxes, obviously it has responsibilities and duties to the people

I find it cowardly that you should need to wait for a global pandemic to give your doomed ideology its chance, and then blame companies for not predicting an act of god

When a hurricane hits, you wouldn't blame a gas station for not having built concrete walls to stop nature, but you rebuild after katrina. You wouldn't blame the WTC for not having antiaircraft defenses. A pandemic is obviously outside the normal state of an economy and necessitates the government intervening to protect businesses, protect citizens, property, homes

if your specific ideology (anybody's) was viable, it would be viable on its own, and wouldn't need some opportunistic issue like a pandemic to suddenly go "hey can we try this anarcho capitalism?" or "hey can we try this CHAZ?" it should work in the normal case not just appear at an opportune time for revolution

if the government was so bad you wouldn't need a virus to show that

you guys in this thread, especially Spit, have a problem of a lot of you just not knowing as much as you think, needing to read more than you write, and being obnoxious to talk to which is why this thread is basically empty with 237 pages and 6 posters

On June 17 2020 06:40 Loco wrote: No, I don't see how it "perfectly applies." something cultural does not equal victim of systemic oppression. Though those two things can overlap and patriarchy affects everyone and is systemic. Are white men being lynched from trees right now? How does that perfectly apply? That's a rhetorical question by the way. By the way, it has been established that Asians are not discriminated upon based on race per se, in those high profile cases from the Harvard lawsuit, but on (perceived) cultural factors, so you're getting it wrong to begin with and your argument falls on its face as a result. You haven't presented any hard evidence of discrimination where race in itself is the sole or determining factor.

I like this

that's nice that liberal universities get a court note saying they're not racist. let's evaluate this closer for a minute what this means "culture" "cultural factors"

When someone says they don't like black culture and think drugs and fatherlessness and violence are a bad idea, what they really mean is they don't like black people. They're racist.

When a university admits fewer Asian people and more black people than they deserve in a blind metric, it's not racist, it's based on cultural factors because Asians have inferior culture. That's tolerant!

you snake

I would prefer as a societal thing UNIVERSITIES didn't hold people to a higher standard because they culturally value STUDYING

or does Loco plan on keeping those pesky overachieving Jews out of university next

so yeah I like this post that showcases the constant work Loco has to do to keep his contradictory-laden worldview barely afloat among the deafening cognitive dissonance

I don't want to go back to browsing rikd blog because it's too painful, but I'm pretty sure I told him that I would not make fun of him if he couldn't work because of his mental illness. That's because I know what it is like. But he celebrates being a neet and is ideologically unemployed. He seems to think that he's somehow too smart to flip pizzas, that he is above that. All while he writes borderline psychotic ramblings about killing jeff bezos and Israelis.

Now he dreams about helping people, being a therapist while he is all over the place and contemplates suicide LOL.

Actually, yeah, I think the distinction between race and cultural factors there is spurious and I shouldn't be making it. It hasn't been proven yet afaik, but if they are discriminating in this way, it is indeed racist. But it doesn't change my conclusion, I still disagree about the notion of colourblindness being a better alternative, that "the cure is worse than the disease" currently. Again, it's not a perfect analogy, but it's like saying that able-bodied individuals are discriminated against when you create parking spots for the disabled. Yeah, okay, it's not a perfect system, maybe you have a really good reason to want to use that parking spot when the parking lot is full, but maybe, just maybe, you can't actually have a perfect system. That doesn't mean that the opposite is better. And it doesn't mean you are a target of discrimination, or that this problem you have as an able-bodied person should have priority over that of non-able-bodied individuals.

Fatherlessness and violence have nothing to do with "black culture". They are symptoms of poverty, which has been created by the nature of disproportionate state violence and economic disfranchisement against Blacks for 400 years. The problems with affirmative action today have the same source in white supremacy. The US has meticulously crafted this image that they have imposed on Asian people which they are now using against them through the minority model myth. This harms them, and we should take it seriously, but it doesn't harm them inearly as much as Blacks --it was designed to hurt Blacks the most-- and pitting them against each other serves only the people who have engineered these myths and are benefiting the most from it with their legacy systems.

On July 01 2020 17:23 Loco wrote: Actually, yeah, I think the distinction between race and cultural factors there is spurious and I shouldn't be making it. It hasn't been proven yet afaik, but if they are discriminating in this way, it is indeed racist. But it doesn't change my conclusion, I still disagree about the notion of colourblindness being a better alternative, that "the cure is worse than the disease" currently. Again, it's not a perfect analogy, but it's like saying that able-bodied individuals are discriminated against when you create parking spots for the disabled. Yeah, okay, it's not a perfect system, maybe you have a really good reason to want to use that parking spot when the parking lot is full, but maybe, just maybe, you can't actually have a perfect system. That doesn't mean that the opposite is better. And it doesn't mean you are a target of discrimination, or that this problem you have as an able-bodied person should have priority over that of non-able-bodied individuals. Fatherlessness and violence have nothing to do with "black culture". They are symptoms of poverty, which has been created by the nature of disproportionate state violence and economic disfranchisement against Blacks for 400 years. The problems with affirmative action today have the same source in white supremacy. The US has meticulously crafted this image that they have imposed on Asian people which they are now using against them through the minority model myth. This harms them, and we should take it seriously, but it doesn't harm them inearly as much as Blacks --it was designed to hurt Blacks the most-- and pitting them against each other serves only the people who have engineered these myths and are benefiting the most from it with their legacy systems.

You have completely lost your mind.