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Wait he banned Tencent? He is killing massive markets in the US that way

On August 07 2020 03:07 Baalim wrote: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss Tencent is huge.. it owns Riotgames, most of EpicGames (Fortnite) and has shares in a lot of gaming companies like Activision, Blizzard etc... I hope this spooks all these companies in bed with the CCP to start buying their shares back. Edit: apparently it probably wont accept Tencent regarding payments with games, just with WeChat, but still its a scary thing for anybody asociated with them.

In general how would you characterize the ccp's relationship with Mexican corporations?

As an Asian-American I can tell you I have experienced black on Asian hate many many times in my life. Its a real thing.

Its pretty sad to me what the NBA has morphed into. I was a big fan, but really I can't say the same thing anymore.

Flip Side : There are good black people out there. I don't want to highlight only on the bad actors. In this video, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Paul Pierce, Tony Parker(probably counts as a Euro) all say very positive and imo genuinely nice things about Lin (can't say the same thing about DWade who imo is a blatant racist, not sure about Chris Paul).

I'm a true fan of Jeremy Lin. The way he handled his entire career of Racism in Basketball with class a dignity has been unreal. I used to complain that Jeremy Lin should have been more outspoken about the Racism he has faced in the NBA, but I realize now that that is how I would have handled the situation and that he has absolutely his right to handle it his own way. For the record the way he has handled now that I think about it is really admirable in alot of ways...

On August 07 2020 08:52 Spitfiree wrote: Wait he banned Tencent? He is killing massive markets in the US that way

apparently its only transactions from WeChat to tencent, even banning all transactions doesn't mean banning products they own stock of.

Yeah, apparently gaming industry is out of it. Banning Tencent products would literally kill the entire esports industry which is multi-billion dollar at this point and is probably the fastest growing sports industry

Tencent owns 100% of Riot Games -> biggest competitive esports
Portion of Epic Games -> one of the biggest game producers and huge esports contributor
Portion of Activison -> Pretty sure you're all aware of Activision


The only meaningful competitive scene that would be left would be CS GO

And this is only talking about the esports portion, the businesses themselves are printing money outside of that

On August 07 2020 22:23 hiems wrote: As an Asian-American I can tell you I have experienced black on Asian hate many many times in my life. Its a real thing.

Of course you have. The greatest irony of the way the wokes have redefined racism so that only white people can be racist is that white people are the least racist race.

HERO

First Asian to fuck a hot white woman on TV/film in the history of the Earth. Does it count because he's Vietnamese?

"Rosa Parks for Asian Men" –David Choe

Something like the first American Asian on Asian porn happened within the last 5 years.

Still don't know if there is Asian male on White pornstar in existence.

"Why wasn't Bruce Lee at least finger banging someone in his films?" –David Choe

From who won the elections through ideologies discussion to why are Asians not fucking hot chicks in Hollywood movies.

It's been a rollercoaster

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hiems,

You can agree that Lin got fucked over by "the system" but don't agree that anyone else can be fucked by "the system"? In any other case the individual should have just pulled himself up by the bootstraps and kept calm and carried on?

Are we going to ignore the fact that Jeremy Lin was one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the league? The guy wasn't an all-star. He's not even a starter. He's a backup PG that was making over $10 million/year at one point. His shooting percentages were below average. His Assist to Turnover ratio was less than 2:1 which is basically the absolutely minimum you want to see from any competent PG. He had 1 great month of games in the NBA's most valuable franchise and rode the hype for years. If it weren't for the fact that he is Asian he would be the most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name.

What about Tiger Woods?

You always here about his blackness but almost never about his asian'ness. His mother is Thai? Do Thais count?

On August 10 2020 00:03 RiKD wrote: What about Tiger Woods? You always here about his blackness but almost never about his asian'ness. His mother is Thai? Do Thais count?

Was that question directed at me? If it is I don't understand what you're asking.

On August 09 2020 23:58 blackjacki2 wrote: Are we going to ignore the fact that Jeremy Lin was one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the league? The guy wasn't an all-star. He's not even a starter. He's a backup PG that was making over $10 million/year at one point. His shooting percentages were below average. His Assist to Turnover ratio was less than 2:1 which is basically the absolutely minimum you want to see from any competent PG. He had 1 great month of games in the NBA's most valuable franchise and rode the hype for years. If it weren't for the fact that he is Asian he would be the most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Before anything, the point isn't that whether he is an all-star or not, but why so many people in the league randomly had some sort of hatred of him. Everybody deserves to be treated with dignity especially in the lockerroom // as a teammate.

$10 million a year is not that much for an NBA player. A good bench player can easily get that salary and be either neutral to +ev. If you are a somewhat serviceable rotation guy that can be an ok contract.

I'm not sure how much you follow the league but whether he is an all-star or not is a really stupid thing to point out. Your statement of "Most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name" is a pretty clueless thing to say. I'm not sure if you think being an "average nba player" is something that you casually scoff at. I hope you understand how many journeymen there are in the D-League, playing in overseas leagues, etc in the world that come to Las Vegas each year to hope to pursue their dream of being an just an "NBA Player". Jeremy Lin isn't even some third string guy that sees like 1 minute a game either like Zhou Qi. Even after Linsanity during his time with the Hornets he played pretty damn big in those playoff series and won games for the Hornets in the fourth quarter playing really well for them down the stretch(which is a big part of the reason he got that big contract with Brooklyn). Again, I'm not sure if you actually follow the league and realize that performing well in the playoffs is kind of a big deal.



Please go listen to a few episodes of the JJ Redick podcast or something and maybe listen to episodes with random rotation guys like Pat Connaughton or TJ McConnell. Those guys are all ecstatic to be "just a player would no one has heard of their name". Im pretty sure Javal McGee is prettty thrilled to be just an "NBA player that you haven't even heard of his name." Jeremy Lin would be thrilled to have been on an NBA roster in 2020. Jeremy Lin is a good basketball player, locker room presence//vet, and an overall good human being.

On August 10 2020 01:41 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On August 09 2020 23:58 blackjacki2 wrote: Are we going to ignore the fact that Jeremy Lin was one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the league? The guy wasn't an all-star. He's not even a starter. He's a backup PG that was making over $10 million/year at one point. His shooting percentages were below average. His Assist to Turnover ratio was less than 2:1 which is basically the absolutely minimum you want to see from any competent PG. He had 1 great month of games in the NBA's most valuable franchise and rode the hype for years. If it weren't for the fact that he is Asian he would be the most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Before anything, the point isn't that whether he is an all-star or not, but why so many people in the league randomly had some sort of hatred of him. Everybody deserves to be treated with dignity especially in the lockerroom // as a teammate. $10 million a year is not that much for an NBA player. A good bench player can easily get that salary and be either neutral to +ev. If you are a somewhat serviceable rotation guy that can be an ok contract. I'm not sure how much you follow the league but whether he is an all-star or not is a really stupid thing to point out. Your statement of "Most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name" is a pretty clueless thing to say. I'm not sure if you think being an "average nba player" is something that you casually scoff at. I hope you understand how many journeymen there are in the D-League, playing in overseas leagues, etc in the world that come to Las Vegas each year to hope to pursue their dream of being an just an "NBA Player". Jeremy Lin isn't even some third string guy that sees like 1 minute a game either like Zhou Qi. Even after Linsanity during his time with the Hornets he played pretty damn big in those playoff series and won games for the Hornets in the fourth quarter playing really well for them down the stretch(which is a big part of the reason he got that big contract with Brooklyn). Again, I'm not sure if you actually follow the league and realize that performing well in the playoffs is kind of a big deal. Please go listen to a few episodes of the JJ Redick podcast or something and maybe listen to episodes with random rotation guys like Pat Connaughton or TJ McConnell. Those guys are all ecstatic to be "just a player would no one has heard of their name". Im pretty sure Javal McGee is prettty thrilled to be just an "NBA player that you haven't even heard of his name." Jeremy Lin would be thrilled to have been on an NBA roster in 2020. Jeremy Lin is a good basketball player, locker room presence//vet, and an overall good human being.

What exactly is YOUR point? The videos you posted are complete trash. Like explain to me the video "CHRIS BOSH BASHES JEREMY LIN" because I just watched it and it sounds more like helpful advice than bashing. In fact literally every single youtube comment says the exact same thing, "How is this bashing?" You have some kind of victim complex if you think that is bashing. Or the video of Kobe yelling at him to foul. Kobe was always yelling at his teammates. How is that video in the least bit noteworthy? I made the argument that he was an average level NBA player and compensated more than fairly. Not sure why you bring up the playoffs because his career playoff numbers are atrocious. 37.6% FG% and 21.2% 3P%. I normally wouldn't mention that since it's a small sample size since he hasn't played in many playoff games but you're the one bringing it up. Outside of Kenyon Martin being a moron I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

On August 10 2020 00:03 RiKD wrote: What about Tiger Woods? You always here about his blackness but almost never about his asian'ness. His mother is Thai? Do Thais count?

obama was the first white president

On August 10 2020 07:05 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2020 01:41 hiems wrote:   On August 09 2020 23:58 blackjacki2 wrote: Are we going to ignore the fact that Jeremy Lin was one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the league? The guy wasn't an all-star. He's not even a starter. He's a backup PG that was making over $10 million/year at one point. His shooting percentages were below average. His Assist to Turnover ratio was less than 2:1 which is basically the absolutely minimum you want to see from any competent PG. He had 1 great month of games in the NBA's most valuable franchise and rode the hype for years. If it weren't for the fact that he is Asian he would be the most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Before anything, the point isn't that whether he is an all-star or not, but why so many people in the league randomly had some sort of hatred of him. Everybody deserves to be treated with dignity especially in the lockerroom // as a teammate. $10 million a year is not that much for an NBA player. A good bench player can easily get that salary and be either neutral to +ev. If you are a somewhat serviceable rotation guy that can be an ok contract. I'm not sure how much you follow the league but whether he is an all-star or not is a really stupid thing to point out. Your statement of "Most average and unremarkable player and you would have never learned his name" is a pretty clueless thing to say. I'm not sure if you think being an "average nba player" is something that you casually scoff at. I hope you understand how many journeymen there are in the D-League, playing in overseas leagues, etc in the world that come to Las Vegas each year to hope to pursue their dream of being an just an "NBA Player". Jeremy Lin isn't even some third string guy that sees like 1 minute a game either like Zhou Qi. Even after Linsanity during his time with the Hornets he played pretty damn big in those playoff series and won games for the Hornets in the fourth quarter playing really well for them down the stretch(which is a big part of the reason he got that big contract with Brooklyn). Again, I'm not sure if you actually follow the league and realize that performing well in the playoffs is kind of a big deal. Please go listen to a few episodes of the JJ Redick podcast or something and maybe listen to episodes with random rotation guys like Pat Connaughton or TJ McConnell. Those guys are all ecstatic to be "just a player would no one has heard of their name". Im pretty sure Javal McGee is prettty thrilled to be just an "NBA player that you haven't even heard of his name." Jeremy Lin would be thrilled to have been on an NBA roster in 2020. Jeremy Lin is a good basketball player, locker room presence//vet, and an overall good human being. What exactly is YOUR point? The videos you posted are complete trash. Like explain to me the video "CHRIS BOSH BASHES JEREMY LIN" because I just watched it and it sounds more like helpful advice than bashing. In fact literally every single youtube comment says the exact same thing, "How is this bashing?" You have some kind of victim complex if you think that is bashing. Or the video of Kobe yelling at him to foul. How is that video in the least bit noteworthy? I made the argument that he was an average level NBA player and compensated more than fairly. Not sure why you bring up the playoffs because his career playoff numbers are atrocious. 37.6% FG% and 21.2% 3P%. I normally wouldn't mention that since it's a small sample size since he hasn't played in many playoff games but you're the one bringing it up. Outside of Kenyon Martin being a moron I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

I'm not sure why I am engaging with you in the first place.

The Chris Bosh video needs to be viewed in context of going into the Miami Heat game in 2012 during the Linsanity hype, the leadership within the Miami Heat with Lebron/Wade. If Kobe was just "always yelling at his teammates" then why did those Bucks commentators make that comment about Lin being "Kobe Bryant and Byron Scott's whipping boy" about Lin specifically?

Your right, those numbers aren't very good. In fact they aren't efficient shooting numbers. Analytics aren't great for Lin, but there are some positives as well. Daryl Morey, who probably is the guy most credited with pioneering the analytics movement in the nba, wouldn't have given Jeremy Lin the Houston Contract if he were a 100% dud on analytics. Lin is pretty aggressive in the paint, and when he is used effectively, gets to the line at a pretty high rate. So basically when Lin is used effectively a good portion of his efficiency numbers come from his ability to get to the line at higher than league average and shoot free throws at a good clip.

Jeremy Lin -- Knicks 2011-2012 (Per 36 Minutes) FTM//FTA 5.6 7.0 on 79,8% Shooting.

These numbers dip during his time with Houston. The knock on Lin (fairly) is that he requires high usage to be effectively used. He needs the ball and make aggressive moves to the basket in order to attack the paint/get fouled. Playing alongside Harden wasn't good for this.

In Houston his FTM/FTA numbers drop to 2.9/3.7 and 3.8/4.6 on a per 36 minutes basis.

However, in the 2015-16 playoff series I mentioned (where he played well, despite what you are trying to say) Nick Batum was injured so Lin was able to see an uptick in usage.

His per 36 minutes FTM/FTA jumps back to 6.1//7.4, and in 27.0 MPG, 4.6 // 5.6, which is a pretty good spark plug off the bench.

This is in contrast to someone like D'Angelo Russell, who is a better shooter than Lin, but has a very difficult time getting to the free throw line. Kevin O Conner on the Ringer NBA podcast always knocks Russell for this flaw.

D'Angelo Russell -- (Per 36 Minutes) Career Freethrows Made//Attempted 2.8 3.6 on 77.2% FT Shooting.
D'Angelo Russell -- FG% 42% 3p% 35.6%

Someone like Gary Harris has a FTM//FTA career per 36 average of 1.9 //2.4.

For comparison for what is in the high range of FTM/FTA
Solid Guard -- > Damian Lillard -- 5.4 // 6.0
Elite Guard -- > Dwayne Wade -- 5.4 // 7.1 ; but had a stretch where it was 7.5/9.9 8.4/10.7, 8.5/10.5, 6.9/9.2, 7.5/9.8, 6.9/9.1, 6.5/8.6
Wade's career 3p% is only 29.3%. However, he is an example of a player whose offensive efficiency is heavily influenced by his elite ability to get to the free throw line.

Jeremy Lin's efficiency stats should therefore be viewed kind of similarly to DWade, who despite being an "old-school" type player the analytics still do favor him heavily. I mean granted Wade has a very efficient 2p%, and elite defense. However, it still is a good model to view Jeremy Lin in many ways. (Not saying the analytics are great or anything for Lin, but just that in terms of analytics his main strength is his ability to get to the free-throw line which does make up a bit for his mediocre shooting stats). Again this is evidenced by the contrasting efficiency numbers from his time with the Knicks and his playoff run with Charlotte vs otherwise. In fact Jeremy Lin's season with the Knicks is not so dissimilar from DWade's rookie season. If DWade were forced to be some sort of catch-and-shoot guy moving without the ball setting screens, he would not be the same player either.

That's about it. I don't really want to go further into "Whats my point" or whatever because I find you to be a very weird guy overall.