On May 21 2020 21:39 Stroggoz wrote:
rikd has previously said he'd be willing to give me his greenstar heh. But ah yeah wtf, revoke someone's star cause you don't like their blog posts?? There are only like 2-3 people who post poker hands anymore, the rest of LP is either rikd blogs or the 1,000 year long battle between baal and loco political factions
might have been a battle at some point but I think it's more accurate to say it's become a massacre if you want to use that framing/terminology. his inconsistency, lack of integrity and intellectual laziness have been blatantly exposed numerous times and I just feel bad at how pronounced it has become. it reminds me of those days in my past when I was noob bashing on smurf accounts in starcraft. I should be above that kind of thing sadly. I mean, the guy still thinks (in 2020!) that Nazis are leftists. if only you guys didn't bite at his shit when I'm no longer posting for weeks or months on end it would have probably been over a long time ago. ah well, I must admit my weaknesses. for some people it's drugs, for some it's prostitutes, for me it's the chuds.
It's funny just a few months ago Loco wrote this hilarious post and fast forward to now and Loco and his crew of libtards have all tapped out like little schoolgirls. LOL
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On May 21 2020 21:39 Stroggoz wrote:
rikd has previously said he'd be willing to give me his greenstar heh. But ah yeah wtf, revoke someone's star cause you don't like their blog posts?? There are only like 2-3 people who post poker hands anymore, the rest of LP is either rikd blogs or the 1,000 year long battle between baal and loco political factions
might have been a battle at some point but I think it's more accurate to say it's become a massacre if you want to use that framing/terminology. his inconsistency, lack of integrity and intellectual laziness have been blatantly exposed numerous times and I just feel bad at how pronounced it has become. it reminds me of those days in my past when I was noob bashing on smurf accounts in starcraft. I should be above that kind of thing sadly. I mean, the guy still thinks (in 2020!) that Nazis are leftists. if only you guys didn't bite at his shit when I'm no longer posting for weeks or months on end it would have probably been over a long time ago. ah well, I must admit my weaknesses. for some people it's drugs, for some it's prostitutes, for me it's the chuds.
It's funny just a few months ago Loco wrote this hilarious post and fast forward to now and Loco and his crew of libtards have all tapped out like little schoolgirls. LOL
It's funny that you either (1) think I'm going to bite and start arguing again when you frame it as me having "tapped out" (as if I'm a desperate manchild like you who needs competition all the time to bolster my self-worth) or (2) that you lack self-awareness so much that you don't realize that this is exactly what you are doing, -- there is no substance whatsoever to your post, it's a cry for my attention. You are posting this because you are bored and desperate for me to entertain you in some way. At least Baal is self-aware enough to admit when he misses that -- he doesn't turn it into this "he left because he lost some argument!" bullshit to try to rope me back into a debate.
Here are my sentiments on anti-immigration measures:
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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hiems United States. Sep 14 2020 04:11. Posts 2979
On May 21 2020 21:39 Stroggoz wrote:
rikd has previously said he'd be willing to give me his greenstar heh. But ah yeah wtf, revoke someone's star cause you don't like their blog posts?? There are only like 2-3 people who post poker hands anymore, the rest of LP is either rikd blogs or the 1,000 year long battle between baal and loco political factions
might have been a battle at some point but I think it's more accurate to say it's become a massacre if you want to use that framing/terminology. his inconsistency, lack of integrity and intellectual laziness have been blatantly exposed numerous times and I just feel bad at how pronounced it has become. it reminds me of those days in my past when I was noob bashing on smurf accounts in starcraft. I should be above that kind of thing sadly. I mean, the guy still thinks (in 2020!) that Nazis are leftists. if only you guys didn't bite at his shit when I'm no longer posting for weeks or months on end it would have probably been over a long time ago. ah well, I must admit my weaknesses. for some people it's drugs, for some it's prostitutes, for me it's the chuds.
It's funny just a few months ago Loco wrote this hilarious post and fast forward to now and Loco and his crew of libtards have all tapped out like little schoolgirls. LOL
It's funny that you either (1) think I'm going to bite and start arguing again when you frame it as me having "tapped out" (as if I'm a desperate manchild like you who needs competition all the time to bolster my self-worth) or (2) that you lack self-awareness so much that you don't realize that this is exactly what you are doing, -- there is no substance whatsoever to your post, it's a cry for my attention. You are posting this because you are bored and desperate for me to entertain you in some way. At least Baal is self-aware enough to admit when he misses that -- he doesn't turn it into this "he left because he lost some argument!" bullshit to try to rope me back into a debate.
Here are my sentiments on anti-immigration measures:
I don't understand your second point what is it exactly that I'm doing thats the same as u lol.
I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]
Yeah, thats the main point, you don't understand, nor do you try to
On September 12 2020 04:24 Baalim wrote:
A state safety net makes the potential economical burden of a migrant higher, poor and unskilled/uneducated migrants are more likely to require of said safety net than citizens, ergo the bigger your safety net, the tighter your border control has to be, as I mentioned before, imagine a country that offered a 10k monthly UBI, well you can see how said country would have to control their borders or their economy would implode because of migration.
You keep repeating that a country benefits from each new person but this isn't true, otherwise GDP per capita would be directly coorelated with total population actually the correlation (weak) is reverse, a country benefits from population growth only when unemployment is really low but thats just in averages while a migrant can generate a lot of positives to its host country and to increase the odds of this happening is by having a relatively easy road to citizenship to desired people.
Obv this is somewehat selfish and elitist, the morality adds another layer of complexity.
There is a lot to unpack here. I don't think UBI can work before the planet is ran by a single government, that being said attempts could still be made. Refugees wouldn't really have an impact on the costs if they aren't eligible to receive it and the system forces them into becoming valuable citizens before receiving hard cash. So we're on the same opinion here.
Without making any sort of research attempts going after a correlation between migration and GDP seems unreasonable to me. There are way too many things to factor in before any sort of statistical analysis would make sense. Think about all things that have an impact on economy and how they have to be isolated (practically impossible) for this correlation to have any valid reason. Migration in our days is quite different as well and the integration of refugees for example and their impact on economy has a longterm impact that goes across generations, so in reality you also need to establish some sort of a timebox in which you want to analyze the data, except anything under a hundred years doesn't make much sense imo.
If anything the US, the UK and France are quite a good example of what happens to a country with mass migration in the past 200 years due to them importing slaves or colonizing other nations, while also being in a society which is open to integrating people of other color and culture. The US is obviously a peculiar case considering its size and demand in the workforce
P.S. inbefore one of the imbeciles starts explaining to me how there are high crime rates in ghettos, don't bother wasting your efforts with another strawman.
How would a European welfare system force refugees into becoming valuable citizens? Where you think they get sent if they don't feel like integrating? You really don't seem to know much about these things.
There is a lot to unpack here. I don't think UBI can work before the planet is ran by a single government, that being said attempts could still be made. Refugees wouldn't really have an impact on the costs if they aren't eligible to receive it and the system forces them into becoming valuable citizens before receiving hard cash. So we're on the same opinion here.
Without making any sort of research attempts going after a correlation between migration and GDP seems unreasonable to me. There are way too many things to factor in before any sort of statistical analysis would make sense. Think about all things that have an impact on economy and how they have to be isolated (practically impossible) for this correlation to have any valid reason. Migration in our days is quite different as well and the integration of refugees for example and their impact on economy has a longterm impact that goes across generations, so in reality you also need to establish some sort of a timebox in which you want to analyze the data, except anything under a hundred years doesn't make much sense imo.
If anything the US, the UK and France are quite a good example of what happens to a country with mass migration in the past 200 years due to them importing slaves or colonizing other nations, while also being in a society which is open to integrating people of other color and culture. The US is obviously a peculiar case considering its size and demand in the workforce
P.S. inbefore one of the imbeciles starts explaining to me how there are high crime rates in ghettos, don't bother wasting your efforts with another strawman.
If you understand that UBI + open borders, then it means that you understand that an "extra person" in an economy (country) doesn mean a good thing since state spenditure can be greater than their productivity, this concept also applies in every state that offers social benefits, ergo the more expensive the state spenditure per capita, the more careful the state should be regarding population growth.
I wasnt correlating migration and GDP, I said population and GDP per capita, If adding people is a net positive (as you claimed) then the bigger the population the better the GDP per capita, yet we don't see that in fact the tendency is the opposite.
You don't need studies on hundreds of years of data, its easy to extrapolate limited data, for example, you can safely assume that if Germany recieved 200m refugees in 2021 they would have a catastrophic economic collapse without the need of seeing a study of migration cases like that one.
The US mass migration in the past couple of hundreds of years is very suis generis, when people move into new land and build their own societies from nothing, that is very different than moving into an already existing society, in the first case then yes you want a lot of migration and every pair of hands will have a net positive effect.
The UK/France example does not apply to what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the economics of population not about cultures or the color of skin of people, that isn't very interesting to me, I'll leave that for right wing bigots and mindless left wingers.
blackjacki2 United States. Sep 15 2020 12:01. Posts 2582
I think there's a poor track record for the platform of "yeah our guy sucks but he's not as bad as the other guy." Dems weren't excited about John Kerry in 2004. Republicans weren't that excited for John McCain or Mitty Romney in 2008 and 2012. Dems definitely saw Hillary as the lesser of two evils in 2016. So if that trend continues then Trump is going to win.
On September 15 2020 08:20 Spitfiree wrote:
It's satisfying that the police are breaking a fundamental right of other humans by trying to run over a protestor?
On September 15 2020 08:20 Spitfiree wrote:
It's satisfying that the police are breaking a fundamental right of other humans by trying to run over a protestor?
What fundamental human right are they breaking?
Absurd trying to frame this as "trying to run people over", the cops didnt plow into a crowd of unsuspecting protesters, the protesters swarmed the patrol car when it had its siren on, when the patrol started to inch forward the guy doubled down and climbed on top of it, getting away and letting the idiot on the roof fall on his ass seem lilke the appropiate response to me.
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hiems United States. Sep 16 2020 16:41. Posts 2979
#Spitfiree is wrong again.
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Sure, the protestors swarmed a police car that went into the middle of a protest. What level of delusion is that exactly?
Also in any normal nation, you have the right of free movement embedded into the constitution meaning you can protest in the middle of the street without anything else mattering. The police have literally zero right to try to run people over.
On September 19 2020 06:45 Spitfiree wrote:
When you're racist and delusional but also don't know your own rights
If you are going to accuse others about not knowing their rights you should have the decency to take 30 seconds to google about protest rights in the US.
a protest that is going to block the street requires a permit under US law
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