Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 278

Nk is... self-sufficient? What are you smoking

Random politics topics I think are interesting:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Uganda

In early August 1972, the President of Uganda, Idi Amin, ordered the expulsion of his country's Asian minority, giving them 90 days to leave the country.[1] At the time of the expulsion, there were approximately 80,000 individuals of Indian descent (mostly Gujaratis[2][3]) in Uganda, of whom 23,000 had their applications for citizenship both processed and accepted.[4] Although the latter were ultimately exempted from the expulsion, many chose to leave voluntarily.[5] The expulsion took place against a backdrop of Indophobia in Uganda, with Amin accusing a minority of the Asian population of disloyalty, non-integration and commercial malpractice, claims Indian leaders disputed.[4] Amin defended the expulsion by arguing that he was "giving Uganda back to ethnic Ugandans".[5]

Many of the expellees were citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies and 27,200 subsequently emigrated to the United Kingdom. Of the other refugees who were accounted for; 6,000 went to Canada, 4,500 refugees ended up in India and 2,500 went to nearby Kenya.[5] In total, some 5,655 firms, ranches, farms, and agricultural estates were reallocated, along with cars, homes and other household goods.[5]

2. Koreans in Argentina

Inter-ethnic relations
Koreans in Argentina are better-integrated with the local population than Koreans in Paraguay, but less so than Korean Brazilians.[19] Argentines initially perceived Koreans as hard-working, intelligent, and honest, but their image took a turn for the worse in the 1980s, precisely as more began arriving in the country—instead, they came to be viewed as exploiters and opportunists.[16] Koreans' entry into the textile industry provided ample fuel for ethnic friction as they outcompeted their co-industrialists through hard work, consisting of twelve- to fourteen-hour days, and use of cheap labour, limited not just to family members but, in some publicized cases, illegal immigrants from neighbouring Bolivia as well. Xenophobic news reports falsely accused them of stealing electricity from power companies, thus cementing in the public mind the idea that the Korean immigrants thrived at the expense of the rest of Argentina. Since Argentina has a rigid class stratification system and their popular national identity is based on an exclusive European racial representation, Koreans inevitably stirred resentment towards their presence. [20]

Children of Korean immigrants also had a difficult time getting accepted as Argentines due to their parents' poor command of the Spanish language, different food, and different customs such as taking off ones' shoes at the front door of the house. In a process common to ethnic minorities in all societies, the second generation conceived the values of the mainstream to be universal, while placing less worth on those of their ancestral culture.[16] In response to their exclusion from the identity of "Argentine", youth of Korean descent often cling to a purely local identity, such as "Porteño" (used to refer to people from Buenos Aires), thus avoiding the need to categorise themselves by ethnicity or nationality. Ethnic Korean women are often fetishised by Argentine men.[21]

In many cases, it is not until they go overseas, especially to the United States, that ethnic Koreans who grew up in Argentina are accepted as full Argentines; their Argentine accent functions as a marker of distinction and identity in the diverse Spanish-speaking community there.[13]

Loco confirmed having seizure with this Washington raid.

Sheesh fml dems win senate... we are all fucked.

On January 05 2021 08:03 Spitfiree wrote: Nk is... self-sufficient? What are you smoking

It might not have been the best term, they are somewhat stable in their famine lol, Venezuela is spiraling down and things can get easily worse than NK's conditoin.

On January 06 2021 23:25 hiems wrote: Loco confirmed having seizure with this Washington raid.

He is mustering all his innner strenght to refrain from posting lol.

Well it's standard to have protest after every US election but a raid in the Capitol is new.

I like how the republicans buried themselves though. It's almost as good as the dems did with Hilary. Have to think about how delusional politicians are

Kind of relieved COVID is killing all my vacation plans. I'd be embarrassed to have to show my US passport right now LOL

I wonder how you get into the secret service

I saw the video of the guy shooting the woman trying to break through the last barricade. He just pulled out his gun and instantly shot her in the chest - no warning shot, no aiming at the feet - nothing. Just stone-cold murdered her.


I get that if they break through that barricade they are pretty much fucked and he is reaching for last resort measures, but a person that supposedly has the training to guard the most important figures of the most influential country in the world should know how to fucking act in situations like this. This is absolutely unacceptable.

Not trying to justify this stupidass woman trying to break into one of the most secure non-military buildings in the world, but holy fucking shit this situation is wrong on so many levels.


I also want to see how hard Ted Cruz was cringing once Zuckerberg basically said fuck off Mr president and enjoy your perma-fucking-ban from our platforms.

As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real?

This comment from a reddit post of the video of the girl getting shot perfectly sums it up

early in the video he starts screaming "HOLD THE LINE!! HOLD THE LINE!!" lmfao, that was from braveheart or 300 or some shit. When you're a cultureless kitchen sink white guy you live in constant fear that your life will pass and nobody will bat an eye that you even existed. These are the same people that watch saving private ryan and fantasies about how they would be such a bad ass at Normandy. ? Just think about this... cops open the doors for them, they walk all through congress, they go on a site seeing tour, then as soon as ONE PERSON IS SHOT.. they all go home. yet beforehand you interview them all and they say shit like "FREEDOM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY LIFE! THIS IS FOR OUR COUNTRY! I WILL DIE FOR MY COUNTRY!" that gunshot snapped them back to reality and that reality is they are just scared white people that want to role-play, as soon as it got real they quit.

coup d'etat lmao

Hold the line is from Gladiator bro needs to get his movies right smh.

On January 08 2021 11:38 blackjacki2 wrote: As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real?

Wow that's creative. Even the RWNJs recognize that all the pipe bombs, guns, zipties for hostages, and hundreds of social media posts declaring intentions is impossible to deny and absolutely make it a coup attempt. Standard line is to just blame it on antifa and call it a day.

On January 08 2021 17:51 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 11:38 blackjacki2 wrote: As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real? Wow that's creative. Even the RWNJs recognize that all the pipe bombs, guns, zipties for hostages, and hundreds of social media posts declaring intentions is impossible to deny and absolutely make it a coup attempt. Standard line is to just blame it on antifa and call it a day.

Lol at coup attempt. So how were they going to maintain power when their supposed coup was successful?

On January 08 2021 18:16 hiems wrote: Lol at coup attempt. So how were they going to maintain power when their supposed coup was successful?

I'm not saying the coup attempt wasn't incredibly stupid and doomed to fail.

On January 08 2021 18:35 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 18:16 hiems wrote: Lol at coup attempt. So how were they going to maintain power when their supposed coup was successful? I'm not saying the coup attempt wasn't incredibly stupid and doomed to fail.

But you are ignoring the huge gulf that clearly exists between this and an actual coup attempt.

An actual coup is highly coordinated and planned and often involves high ranking members of the military.

On January 08 2021 18:49 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 18:35 NMcNasty wrote:   On January 08 2021 18:16 hiems wrote: Lol at coup attempt. So how were they going to maintain power when their supposed coup was successful? I'm not saying the coup attempt wasn't incredibly stupid and doomed to fail. But you are ignoring the huge gulf that clearly exists between this and an actual coup attempt. An actual coup is highly coordinated and planned and often involves high ranking members of the military.

This was coordinated and planned (certainly not highly) , again there's evidence for it all over social media. Military involvement is not a prerequisite for a coup, a "military coup" is just a specific type.

On January 08 2021 18:59 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 18:49 hiems wrote:   On January 08 2021 18:35 NMcNasty wrote:   On January 08 2021 18:16 hiems wrote: Lol at coup attempt. So how were they going to maintain power when their supposed coup was successful? I'm not saying the coup attempt wasn't incredibly stupid and doomed to fail. But you are ignoring the huge gulf that clearly exists between this and an actual coup attempt. An actual coup is highly coordinated and planned and often involves high ranking members of the military. This was coordinated and planned (certainly not highly) , again there's evidence for it all over social media. Military involvement is not a prerequisite for a coup, a "military coup" is just a specific type.

There is a difference between poorly coordinated and not coordinated at all.

So you're saying a coordinated coup planned to overthrow the government of the world's most powerful country with absolutely 0 backing of any sort of military?

On January 08 2021 19:18 hiems wrote: There is a difference between poorly coordinated and not coordinated at all.

Keep pretending social media evidence of coordination doesn't exist.

So you're saying a coordinated coup planned to overthrow the government of the world's most powerful country with absolutely 0 backing of any sort of military?

Yes! Again, not saying it was a smart idea, its catastrophically bad for the majority of these people, they had no chance and will be imprisoned for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_and_coup_attempts

On 6 January, violent supporters of United States President Donald Trump, some armed, stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to stop Biden's votes from being counted and him being certified as the winner, during the 2020 United States presidential election Electoral College count. Lockdown and evacuation orders were given and the session was suspended. In the violent riot that occurred, referred to as "the storming of the Capitol" one pro-Trump supporter was shot and killed by United States Capitol Police and a Capitol Police officer was assaulted (by being beaten with a fire extinguisher) and killed by Trump supporters. In total, 5 people were killed in the attempted coup.[80] The Senate and House chambers were both breached, with one protester saying "Trump won the election!" at the podium of the House. Protesters also broke into offices of members of congress, including the office of Nancy Pelosi.[81] The international community immediately reacted, with world leaders and the NATO secretary-general[82]calling for calm.

hiems what's say you and I organize a coup
My plan is this
Step 1 we eat some cheeseburgers
Step 2 we drive around looking for places to do donuts

Idk how successful this coup will be or if we can effect any changes but it's the thought that counts right you in?

The coup attempt isn't a failure yet, and i don't see how it was a dumb idea (for Trump anyway). It merely didn't meet it's full goals. Really, if you can carry out a coup attempt and not go to jail over it, then this is another one of Trumps successes. And a success for any other would be demagogue in the future. If he goes to jail over it then it will be a failure.

Yeah there are examples of bloodless coups without military backing. One example is the US overthrow of Australian government in 1975.