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On January 08 2021 19:30 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 19:18 hiems wrote: There is a difference between poorly coordinated and not coordinated at all. Keep pretending social media evidence of coordination doesn't exist.   So you're saying a coordinated coup planned to overthrow the government of the world's most powerful country with absolutely 0 backing of any sort of military? Yes! Again, not saying it was a smart idea, its catastrophically bad for the majority of these people, they had no chance and will be imprisoned for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_and_coup_attempts   On 6 January, violent supporters of United States President Donald Trump, some armed, stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to stop Biden's votes from being counted and him being certified as the winner, during the 2020 United States presidential election Electoral College count. Lockdown and evacuation orders were given and the session was suspended. In the violent riot that occurred, referred to as "the storming of the Capitol" one pro-Trump supporter was shot and killed by United States Capitol Police and a Capitol Police officer was assaulted (by being beaten with a fire extinguisher) and killed by Trump supporters. In total, 5 people were killed in the attempted coup.[80] The Senate and House chambers were both breached, with one protester saying "Trump won the election!" at the podium of the House. Protesters also broke into offices of members of congress, including the office of Nancy Pelosi.[81] The international community immediately reacted, with world leaders and the NATO secretary-general[82]calling for calm.

Ok responding now that I'm home at my computer.

Are you really just linking some wikipedia article that some liberal likely updated and passing that off as some authority on whether this is a coup or not? Are you related to Loco by any chance?

Seems to me you are a typical snowflake type that has 0 life experience in actual coups other than playing the part of some w0ke guy on the internet.



^ This is what an actual coup is like.

"Keep pretending social media evidence of coordination doesn't exist."

I have no idea what you are talking about since I don't follow random weird ppl on twitter.

But are you referring to coordinating the protest or the actual storming of the building? Feel free to link me to some evidence that this was a coordinated "coup attempt."

On January 08 2021 20:48 Stroggoz wrote: The coup attempt isn't a failure yet, and i don't see how it was a dumb idea (for Trump anyway). It merely didn't meet it's full goals. Really, if you can carry out a coup attempt and not go to jail over it, then this is another one of Trumps successes. And a success for any other would be demagogue in the future. If he goes to jail over it then it will be a failure. Yeah there are examples of bloodless coups without military backing. One example is the US overthrow of Australian government in 1975.

Stroggoz : 0 life experience in actual coups.

facepalm.jpg.

It's pretty insane that we have to explain to the libs why this isn't a coup attempt, lol.

No life experience in coups but I do protest outside of government every week on climate issues. If someone comes along with good policies and they have the power, I'll happily support them in overthrowing the government

On January 08 2021 20:46 Santafairy wrote: hiems what's say you and I organize a coup My plan is this Step 1 we eat some cheeseburgers Step 2 we drive around looking for places to do donuts Idk how successful this coup will be or if we can effect any changes but it's the thought that counts right you in?

Apparently this counts as a coup attempt as long as there is "social media evidence" for the coup.

Pretty strange why people would coordinate treason to the government over social media. Wonder how many people coordinate their plans for first-degree murder over instagram.

"You can't talk about it unless you've lived through a real coup" is probably dumber than the "Its not a coup unless it has a good chance to succeed" argument.

On January 08 2021 21:59 Stroggoz wrote: No life experience in coups but I do protest outside of government every week on climate issues. If someone comes along with good policies and they have the power, I'll happily support them in overthrowing the government

I think this sounds more like an overly-enthusiastic political science student than anything but welcome back to the politics thread we need you/more liberals here now that Loco has been K.O.ed!!!

On January 08 2021 22:00 hiems wrote: Pretty strange why people would coordinate treason to the government over social media. Wonder how many people coordinate their plans for first-degree murder over instagram.

Its strange, yet it happened. Its also strange people are gullible enough to vote Trump in the first place. And what do you think the dozens (possibly hundreds) of people that are and will be arrested will be charged with? Just trespassing? Disorderly conduct? What evidence do you think will be brought to their trials? Nothing? "Social media evidence" is some sort of woke liberal term?

On January 08 2021 22:44 NMcNasty wrote: "You can't talk about it unless you've lived through a real coup" is probably dumber than the "Its not a coup unless it has a good chance to succeed" argument.

You can talk about it, but you are likely to be a snow-flake type and really not understand what an actual coup is, kind of like what happened here.

On January 08 2021 12:24 hiems wrote: Hold the line is from Gladiator bro needs to get his movies right smh.

I would say it's from "The Patriot"

On January 08 2021 22:50 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 12:24 hiems wrote: Hold the line is from Gladiator bro needs to get his movies right smh. I would say it's from "The Patriot"

gfy

On January 08 2021 22:48 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 22:44 NMcNasty wrote: "You can't talk about it unless you've lived through a real coup" is probably dumber than the "Its not a coup unless it has a good chance to succeed" argument. You can talk about it, but you are likely to be a snow-flake type and really not understand what an actual coup is, kind of like what happened here.

Just out of curiosity what coup did you live through that makes you so worldly?

On January 08 2021 23:00 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 22:48 hiems wrote:   On January 08 2021 22:44 NMcNasty wrote: "You can't talk about it unless you've lived through a real coup" is probably dumber than the "Its not a coup unless it has a good chance to succeed" argument. You can talk about it, but you are likely to be a snow-flake type and really not understand what an actual coup is, kind of like what happened here. Just out of curiosity what coup did you live through that makes you so worldly?

I'm generally regarded by many as the KING of Common Sense, Independent Thought, and Life experience.

Also I'm known to be a very wise leader.

On January 08 2021 17:51 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 11:38 blackjacki2 wrote: As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real? Wow that's creative. Even the RWNJs recognize that all the pipe bombs, guns, zipties for hostages, and hundreds of social media posts declaring intentions is impossible to deny and absolutely make it a coup attempt. Standard line is to just blame it on antifa and call it a day.

Sure, call it a coup. Led by their fearless leader ManBearPig with his Knife-flag weapon. The whole "We are headed to fascism" and "We are witnessing how Hitler rose to power" were soooo right and we just BARELY avoided that. That was a close one.

Honestly thought there would be a south-east Asian country you left when you were 3 or something at least. Just nothing at all though, over-estimating Trump supporters myself.

On January 08 2021 23:12 NMcNasty wrote: Honestly thought there would be a south-east Asian country you left when you were 3 or something at least. Just nothing at all though, over-estimating Trump supporters myself.

I was 6 when I left my South-East Asian country. The actual coup was during my parent's time. It, along with the Korean War, were certainly one of the most important political events in modern South Korean history and very much impacted my family's life and most certainly my life. Comparing whatever you saw on CNN to that would be a total joke imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_16_coup

On January 08 2021 23:07 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 17:51 NMcNasty wrote:   On January 08 2021 11:38 blackjacki2 wrote: As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real? Wow that's creative. Even the RWNJs recognize that all the pipe bombs, guns, zipties for hostages, and hundreds of social media posts declaring intentions is impossible to deny and absolutely make it a coup attempt. Standard line is to just blame it on antifa and call it a day. Sure, call it a coup. Led by their fearless leader ManBearPig with his Knife-flag weapon. The whole "We are headed to fascism" and "We are witnessing how Hitler rose to power" were soooo right and we just BARELY avoided that. That was a close one.

This is just the "it can't be a coup, these people are ridiculous!" argument again.

On January 08 2021 23:22 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2021 23:07 blackjacki2 wrote:   On January 08 2021 17:51 NMcNasty wrote:   On January 08 2021 11:38 blackjacki2 wrote: As someone that's been rolling my eyes for 2 years at all the people claiming Trump was leading us to fascism and that we were witnessing the second coming of Hitler and all the other shit, I really thought people would see how ridiculous that sounded now that this little circus is over. Nope. They actually have the nerve to say shit like "We just witnessed an attempted coup d'etat." Lol, for real? Wow that's creative. Even the RWNJs recognize that all the pipe bombs, guns, zipties for hostages, and hundreds of social media posts declaring intentions is impossible to deny and absolutely make it a coup attempt. Standard line is to just blame it on antifa and call it a day. Sure, call it a coup. Led by their fearless leader ManBearPig with his Knife-flag weapon. The whole "We are headed to fascism" and "We are witnessing how Hitler rose to power" were soooo right and we just BARELY avoided that. That was a close one. This is just the "it can't be a coup, these people are ridiculous!" argument again.

No, I'm saying I don't care to engage in a semantics argument over what does or doesn't constitute a coup and I'll concede that entire point no matter how ridiculous it is. The bigger point is that anyone that thinks that that circus that fizzled out before the next day's sunrise was the big "I told you so" moment for the "We're headed to fascism" crowd, they are clearly delusional.