Politics thread (USA Elections 2016) - Page 280

This entire situation takes me back to the topic of ' the left can't meme' and then I look at Trump and his supporters... and does the left even need to meme...

This will go down in history as the most idiotic "coup attempt"... It reminds me of the movie Pain & Gain, it's that level of stupid. (Also based on a true story)


A neat end to the most idiotic presidency in US's history

Too bad Trump won't get any backlash since I doubt they'd want to go after a president even if he is not in office... would create a precedent

Edit:

You can't unironically call this a coup. Just because you say you're doing something doesn't mean you're doing it. These people were just complete monkeys that ran for the hills the second they realized what the situation is

Activist infiltrated capitol hill with a Kavanaught protest in 2018 lol, coup is a ridiculous hyperbole, that being said this is borderline terrorism from some of the people, theres pictures of a guy in full tactical gear with plastic cuffs, that guy was probably planning imprisoning congressmen or something insane, I hope these crazy people go to jail.


Social media banned Trump at the same time, that is terrifying, sure these rants from Trump are dangerous and I wished he didn't have an outlet, however if they can silence the most powerful man on earth then perhaps we should reconsider who really holds the power, Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly.

This was a coup attempt. It was a ridiculously retarded one with 0% chance at succeeding, but that's about expected from the crowd that attempted it. Like, if someone attempts to clean their gun but instead shoots themselves in the face, they still attempted to clean their gun.

^This
If I take my dick out wave it around and shout WINGARDIUM LEVIOSA and get arrested for indecent exposure
I still attempted to fly

On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Social media banned Trump at the same time, that is terrifying, sure these rants from Trump are dangerous and I wished he didn't have an outlet, however if they can silence the most powerful man on earth then perhaps we should reconsider who really holds the power, Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly.

I'm confused by this part. How are you rooting for the free market and governmentless business but point this out?

Obviously, big tech companies hold a lot of power. Silencing him was a really, really good move considering his statements and how stupid he is. Whether they can use that power for other immoral deeds is another topic though.

Nobody forces Trump to use their services. If he wants he can build his own social media and have a platform there... isn't that the main argument for ancaps?

On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Social media banned Trump at the same time, that is terrifying, sure these rants from Trump are dangerous and I wished he didn't have an outlet, however if they can silence the most powerful man on earth then perhaps we should reconsider who really holds the power, Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly. I'm confused by this part. How are you rooting for the free market and governmentless business but point this out?

Hey Baal you have an ideology so you're precluded from having opinions on anything! I win! Posting this for the 100th time was a productive use of my time!

On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Obviously, big tech companies hold a lot of power. Silencing him was a really, really good move considering his statements and how stupid he is. Whether they can use that power for other immoral deeds is another topic though.

in this case moral deed = silencing someone I dislike and other immoral [sic] (other, immoral) deeds = silencing someone I do like

On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Nobody forces Trump to use their services. If he wants he can build his own social media and have a platform there... isn't that the main argument for ancaps?

sure sounds like that would be a pretty easy thing t- https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/08/par...pp-store-suspension-reportedly-looms/
nobody forces you to buy an airline ticket, if you want you can get your own plane...

On January 09 2021 14:17 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote:   On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Social media banned Trump at the same time, that is terrifying, sure these rants from Trump are dangerous and I wished he didn't have an outlet, however if they can silence the most powerful man on earth then perhaps we should reconsider who really holds the power, Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly. I'm confused by this part. How are you rooting for the free market and governmentless business but point this out? Hey Baal you have an ideology so you're precluded from having opinions on anything! I win! Posting this for the 100th time was a productive use of my time!   On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Obviously, big tech companies hold a lot of power. Silencing him was a really, really good move considering his statements and how stupid he is. Whether they can use that power for other immoral deeds is another topic though. in this case moral deed = silencing someone I dislike and other immoral [sic] (other, immoral) deeds = silencing someone I do like   On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Nobody forces Trump to use their services. If he wants he can build his own social media and have a platform there... isn't that the main argument for ancaps? sure sounds like that would be a pretty easy thing t- https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/08/par...pp-store-suspension-reportedly-looms/ nobody forces you to buy an airline ticket, if you want you can get your own plane...

Damn, it looks like Spitfiree is wrong...again....

On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Social media banned Trump at the same time, that is terrifying, sure these rants from Trump are dangerous and I wished he didn't have an outlet, however if they can silence the most powerful man on earth then perhaps we should reconsider who really holds the power, Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly. I'm confused by this part. How are you rooting for the free market and governmentless business but point this out? Obviously, big tech companies hold a lot of power. Silencing him was a really, really good move considering his statements and how stupid he is. Whether they can use that power for other immoral deeds is another topic though. Nobody forces Trump to use their services. If he wants he can build his own social media and have a platform there... isn't that the main argument for ancaps?

Bam, right on the money

I'm rooting for the free market and (relatively) governmentless business and I think twitter should be allowed to ban whoever they want off their free software on the servers they're paying for, for whatever reason they want. I think you're exactly right about everyone being free to compete with twitter. I'm literally communicating this to you on a competing forum lol. I don't think Twitter is even close to a monopoly or that we're close to needing government intervention.

When I heard about this news I thought it might create a rift between conservatives and libertarians but instead libertarians just folded up their principles like lawn chairs at the first sign of inconvenience as usual :/

@ hiems / Santafairy I don't think Spitfire is arguing that Twitter should be allowed to ban whoever they want (I am), I think he's just saying he's surprised to see an anarchist/libertarian arguing against that belief.

On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly.

This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Trump did great by allowing businesses to just run. I really don't think Twitter is some kind of world controlling powerhouse. I mean their market cap is 40 billion lol. If I thought they were powerful to the point of threatening to overtake democracy, I'd buy some of their stock

Twitter shares down nearly 4% in after hours trading following Trump ban

The people voting with their money don't seem to have the impression that Twitter just took control of the world, they seem to have the impression that their company fucked up by banning a viral poster and is worth less now

On January 09 2021 18:17 Jelle wrote: @ hiems / Santafairy I don't think Spitfire is arguing that Twitter should be allowed to ban whoever they want (I am), I think he's just saying he's surprised to see an anarchist/libertarian arguing against that belief.

Tbh I didn't even read what Santa/Spitfiree said in detail just wanted to continue the "Spitfiree is always wrong" meme.

In general tho I am very much against how big tech, specifically Google and twitter operate and feel like something is definitely wrong and needs correction.

On January 09 2021 18:30 Jelle wrote: Show nested quote + On January 09 2021 06:05 Baalim wrote: Trump missed the opportunity to anti-trust the shit out of the big media tech companies, I hope that doesnt costs the world dearly. This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Trump did great by allowing businesses to just run. I really don't think Twitter is some kind of world controlling powerhouse. I mean their market cap is 40 billion lol. If I thought they were powerful to the point of threatening to overtake democracy, I'd buy some of their stock   Twitter shares down nearly 4% in after hours trading following Trump ban The people voting with their money don't seem to have the impression that Twitter just took control of the world, they seem to have the impression that their company fucked up by banning a viral poster and is worth less now

Disagree with you on this Twitter and Google are acting beyond the boundaries of good faith and racial discrimination. Same thing can be said about Hollywood, Netflix, Universities, etc.

On January 09 2021 18:17 Jelle wrote: @ hiems / Santafairy I don't think Spitfire is arguing that Twitter should be allowed to ban whoever they want (I am), I think he's just saying he's surprised to see an anarchist/libertarian arguing against that belief.

yes, after years he remains surprised at the same forum regulars' opinions even though he knows what they are

in an anarcho capitalist society there would be no president to ban, but that's not where we live

it's not just twitter if you watch the news it's the whole cabal of silicon valley thought lords

lmao thought lord. that sounds like an enemy in diablo 2 act 4

Santafairy and hiems taking the bait like real men do

Good job

Lmao @ labeling the silencing of someone that is provoking violence and has the power to do it as immoral

"Taking the bait like real men do"

...this isn't an actual expression...and if it was it really does not fit in here at all lol.

Spitfiree is wrong....again...

On January 09 2021 13:14 Liquid`Drone wrote: This was a coup attempt. It was a ridiculously retarded one with 0% chance at succeeding, but that's about expected from the crowd that attempted it. Like, if someone attempts to clean their gun but instead shoots themselves in the face, they still attempted to clean their gun.

No doubt many in the crowd were attempting or hoping for one, and Trump surely pushed it to the boundaries of where he would face legal repercussionns for it however for something to be really called a coup attempt much more than this is need, in the same way not every Antifa guy throwing a molotov at a govrenment buliding is a terrorist.

Trump was careful not to directly incite the riots in the eyes of the law, and I wouldn't like it if he were legally charged with something of that sort, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because I think the smart thing to do is to let him slidle into irrelevance, and if he doesnt let up hit him with some tax evasion shit after some time.

On January 09 2021 14:03 Spitfiree wrote: I'm confused by this part. How are you rooting for the free market and governmentless business but point this out?

Your argument is like saying "you are an ancap, why are you complaining about potholes in the road"? well because we live under a state and I want it to perform its fucking duties, like protecting freedom of speech and breaking up monopolies, yet they don't.

Obviously, big tech companies hold a lot of power. Silencing him was a really, really good move considering his statements and how stupid he is. Whether they can use that power for other immoral deeds is another topic though.

Yes and also silencing a Nazi is good, but the power to silence it is much more dangerous than the Nazi's speech, the same way that social media mega corps having the power to control what ideas propagate is much more dangerous than Trump's tweets. "If you can silence a king, you are the king".

Nobody forces Trump to use their services. If he wants he can build his own social media and have a platform there... isn't that the main argument for ancaps?

FYI about "open your own twitter" Gab was opened, and paypal and visa blocked payments to them, they were also removed from the android app store, Parler was just removed from Amazon's hosting servers, why isn't the state preventing this?.

On January 09 2021 18:30 Jelle wrote: This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Trump did great by allowing businesses to just run. I really don't think Twitter is some kind of world controlling powerhouse. I mean their market cap is 40 billion lol. If I thought they were powerful to the point of threatening to overtake democracy, I'd buy some of their stock

Trump was banned from all the big social media platforms at the same time, Twitter alone isn't that powerful, but Twitter+Facebook+Google+Amazon+Paypal+VISA together are sure powerful, they can turn somebody into a pariah like they did to Alex Jones.

Also while obviously correlated, marketcap does not directly translate into power fwiw, but thats another long subject.

The people voting with their money don't seem to have the impression that Twitter just took control of the world, they seem to have the impression that their company fucked up by banning a viral poster and is worth less now

Losing a poster isnt worth 4%, the speculators are afraid that this might be spark that ignites anti-trust or free-speech regulation to social media.

On January 10 2021 06:02 Baalim wrote: Losing a poster isnt worth 4%, the speculators are afraid that this might be spark that ignites anti-trust or free-speech regulation to social media.

that's definitely true, point taken