I am not willing to die on a trans and Title IX hill for example but the negiotiation followed by the creep on seemingly 100+ issues is concerning. It's shock therapy on its own nation. If something is technically possible it is technically possilbe to will it into reality. Bombastic is not the right word. The neogitiation is high-sounding yet HAS meaning. It is calculated and clever.
On February 21 2025 14:58 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Trump banning the woke stuff and "we have 573 different genders" I dont really care about.
I assumed Baal would care more about Trump bashing Mexico than about Ukraine...
That you personally don't care about words being banned is irrelevant (although it says a lot about the weakness of your character and morals). The words that have been banned have actual meaning and technical usage in the scientific world, not just with the ultra woke people. In some way it's like if you said you didn't care about slavery if it came back because it would only affect people of color... No one needs to know that you only care about things that directly impact you and your ability to build capital, it doesn't change the fact that in a society we need to be able to describe reality freely. Banning words is something fascists do. The fact that the right wing has always been trumpeting free speech above all and saying "I might not agree with you but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" and now when it's time to prove it many are content to ignore the issue. Like everyone knew about all of those free speech grifters like Musk and Peterson, it was never about the principle of free speech, it was about money and owning the libs. Now that they get to do it with the government's help they have no reason to oppose its authoritarianism.
But if Baal has any principles at all it is no doubt the first thing he would care about and call out.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 22 2025 22:42. Posts 5360
Freedom of speech is on the decline all over the world unfortunately.
The word extremism has become an Orwellian word as well.
It used to not have negative connotations on the far left.
These laws are going to be used to clamp down hard on environmentalists and criticism in general. The UK has already done that.
We are entering a worst case scenario world, the stuff of nightmares. Both neo fascism and a climate catastrophe.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 22 2025 22:47. Posts 5360
On February 21 2025 14:58 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Trump banning the woke stuff and "we have 573 different genders" I dont really care about.
I assumed Baal would care more about Trump bashing Mexico than about Ukraine...
That you personally don't care about words being banned is irrelevant (although it says a lot about the weakness of your character and morals). The words that have been banned have actual meaning and technical usage in the scientific world, not just with the ultra woke people. In some way it's like if you said you didn't care about slavery if it came back because it would only affect people of color... No one needs to know that you only care about things that directly impact you and your ability to build capital, it doesn't change the fact that in a society we need to be able to describe reality freely. Banning words is something fascists do. The fact that the right wing has always been trumpeting free speech above all and saying "I might not agree with you but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" and now when it's time to prove it many are content to ignore the issue. Like everyone knew about all of those free speech grifters like Musk and Peterson, it was never about the principle of free speech, it was about money and owning the libs. Now that they get to do it with the government's help they have no reason to oppose its authoritarianism.
But if Baal has any principles at all it is no doubt the first thing he would care about and call out.
If there are any 22nd century historians they will describe the 21st century as the great period of ultra cringe in their textbooks.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 23 2025 12:12. Posts 5360
On February 19 2025 17:47 NMcNasty wrote:
Recent freak show of appointees got me remembering how I argued against *gasp* Rex Tillerson on here eight years ago. Nothing matters now.
US deserves what we get to some degree, but I do feel especially bad for Ukrainians who are just trying to fight off a terrorist invasion. Best case scenario is Putin keeps what he took without penalty.
I never understood why people say this, that America deserves what it gets. It's mostly poor people that suffer, and most of the suffering caused by the government is in neither Ukraine nor America.
You probably don't know it but what is really being said here is that poor people deserve to die for no reason at all.
This negotiations for peace between Trump and Putin are a good thing. Pretty sure Ukraine desires peace more than anything here, even if it means taking the loss. Denuclearisation and ending sanctions are good too, If that happens
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NMcNasty United States. Feb 25 2025 19:01. Posts 2041
On February 23 2025 11:12 Stroggoz wrote:
This negotiations for peace between Trump and Putin are a good thing. Pretty sure Ukraine desires peace more than anything here, even if it means taking the loss. Denuclearisation and ending sanctions are good too, If that happens
Given that the political will doesn't exist to properly arm Ukraine and properly sanction Russia, to the point where Ukraine is empowered to actually win back its conquered territory, yes at this moment Ukraine would probably "take the loss" IF they had guarantees Russia wouldn't just re-invade a later date. Thats the best case scenario I was referring to. The problem is that Putin and Trump are the two most untrustworthy people on the planet so any agreement that doesn't involve Ukraine joining NATO or having NATO peacekeepers in its territory is just dogshit, and Russia is rejecting this out of hand. Russia wants all of Ukraine (which was obvious when Crimea was taken), and likely won't settle for less, but they're probably willing to placate Trump through bribery somehow. Trump already laid the groundwork for giving Putin everything by not even condemning Russia's invasion at the UN. Its utterly insane. Trump, and by extension the US, are siding with a terrorist. When "peace talks" fall through, Trump just blames "dictator" Zelenskyy, and says "whelp I tried, guy is just unreasonable". Social media is already a sea of Russian propaganda so everyone just eats it up. Zelenskyy's best line at this point is to look to the rest of Europe and see if the UK and France actually have a spine (Germany doesn't), but the problem is Trump isn't a mere isolationist, he's a criminal, and will likely go as far to actually work against Ukraine/Europe by feeding Russia intel (Tulsi Gabbard lol). Situation is completely fucked. I don't even know what universe you could possibly be living in where denuclearization is somehow on the table.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 25 2025 23:12. Posts 5360
Gallup polls now are showing Ukraine desires caesefire.
By denuclearisation I mean renewed START. That's a possibility in the future. The main thing blocking that is China US relations.
The issue is Trump is making ridiculous demands, seeking to financially colonize Ukraine. That can't be part of any peace deal obviously.
I'm pretty sure Putin is rejoicing if he all he gets js what he has now plus no nato membership.
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On February 20 2025 03:11 Loco wrote:
I still remember Baal saying "fascism will never take root in the US you're just a paranoid idiot" to me just a few years ago. Not that I can have any satisfaction from having been right about something like this.
Wait wait wait, you think THIS is fascism? this is what has haunted you all these years? lol.
Come on LP. U can do better than Putin-propaganda. Im not a fan of Harris, but she is obvious way better alternative than this clown.
I never thought you'd prefer the dems, Trump as a person is shit but whatever that isn't left plus he isn't part of the machine wich is good and Elon behind him also good.
I wrote "so far so good" less than 1 month ago... now its more like "worse than I could imagine"..
Still happy with this clown?
I'm not happy Trump won, I"m happy the dems/left lost.
I think Trump is a vile and cruel man and a conman of low cunning.
I assumed Baal would care more about Trump bashing Mexico than about Ukraine...
I and the majority of the ppl I know want Trump to bomb the living shit of the cartels like there is no tomorrow, the cartels backed the socialist party and won the elections and now we live in a narco-dictatorship, they extorted (literally kidnapped) legislators to get a super majority (66%+) to topple the judiciary branch, how judges are elected by a lottery (wich is obv fixed) and we have cartel members as judges, the violence has exploded to levels never seen before, people dont start businesses because they cartels ask you for cuts, and people don't even travel at night anymore because inter-state roads are dangerous, things are really bad.
The government protects the cartels in fact the US caught a big cartel member ("El mayo" Zambada), violence in Sinaloa is insane, theres an unofficial 8pm curfew and ppl are dying everywhere because of this capture, El Mayo threatened the Mexican government that they either extradite him from the US or that he will "sink US-Mex relationships" basically saying I'll spill the beans... the thing is, the last time the US gave a drug lord back to Mexico, it was General Cienfuegos, who was instnatly released when he arrived at México and he even attends events sitting next to our retarded president, so hopefully Trump doesnt give him back.
So yeah I'd like Trump to wage full war on the cartels and hopefully stop the remittances wich would send us economically into the drak ages in hopes that people suffer enough so that we don't reelect this fucking narco socilaist government for a 3rd time.
On February 21 2025 14:58 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Trump banning the woke stuff and "we have 573 different genders" I dont really care about.
I assumed Baal would care more about Trump bashing Mexico than about Ukraine...
That you personally don't care about words being banned is irrelevant (although it says a lot about the weakness of your character and morals). The words that have been banned have actual meaning and technical usage in the scientific world, not just with the ultra woke people. In some way it's like if you said you didn't care about slavery if it came back because it would only affect people of color... No one needs to know that you only care about things that directly impact you and your ability to build capital, it doesn't change the fact that in a society we need to be able to describe reality freely. Banning words is something fascists do. The fact that the right wing has always been trumpeting free speech above all and saying "I might not agree with you but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" and now when it's time to prove it many are content to ignore the issue. Like everyone knew about all of those free speech grifters like Musk and Peterson, it was never about the principle of free speech, it was about money and owning the libs. Now that they get to do it with the government's help they have no reason to oppose its authoritarianism.
But if Baal has any principles at all it is no doubt the first thing he would care about and call out.
Yes of course, you not caring about "Trump banning woke stuff" is the same as if you didn't care about slavering coming back, totally sane argument there.
With "banned words" I suppose you mean that they told the CDC and FDA that they shouldn't use "woke" words like: pregnant people, non binary, asigned at birth etc; My opinion regarding that it has nothing to do with free speech, its controlling the terminology used in public statements by a public agency, in an universe where Biden won and they were forbidden in saying "mothers" and they had to use pregnant people I would complain about ideological alignment and overall lunacy, wich you are free to do, but that has nothing to do with freedom of speech, if the government were knocking doors on people using the term "pregnant people" on social media then i'll be on your camp loudly complaining about freedom of speech.
But it isn't your camp is it? you've never supported freedom of speech you want cenroship for ideological enemies and I've told you for years that other narrowsighted authoritarians like you were building a weapon that would be used against you when the pendulum swung back, and here were are and even if censorship hasnt arrived yet if it does don't bitch about it, you made your bed now lie in it.
On February 23 2025 11:12 Stroggoz wrote:
This negotiations for peace between Trump and Putin are a good thing. Pretty sure Ukraine desires peace more than anything here, even if it means taking the loss. Denuclearisation and ending sanctions are good too, If that happens
Its a shitshow Trump said Zelensky was a dictator and now that they conceded mining rights he says he is going to take Donbass back lmao.
But overall I agree, however its very paintful for the soul of a nation to lose land, it echos through centuries, half of Mexico resents the US because they took land from us hundreds of years ago, so it might sound trivial to give away some random land but it isn't, but for Ukraine and Russia too the war has to stop, most people don't get how devastating long-term sanctions are, a world where a country with thousands of nuclear weapons spirals into poverty isn't a good one, we need a prosper Russia.
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Santafairy Korea (South). Mar 01 2025 08:56. Posts 2241
On February 23 2025 11:12 Stroggoz wrote:
This negotiations for peace between Trump and Putin are a good thing. Pretty sure Ukraine desires peace more than anything here, even if it means taking the loss. Denuclearisation and ending sanctions are good too, If that happens
Given that the political will doesn't exist to properly arm Ukraine and properly sanction Russia, to the point where Ukraine is empowered to actually win back its conquered territory, yes at this moment Ukraine would probably "take the loss" IF they had guarantees Russia wouldn't just re-invade a later date. Thats the best case scenario I was referring to. The problem is that Putin and Trump are the two most untrustworthy people on the planet so any agreement that doesn't involve Ukraine joining NATO or having NATO peacekeepers in its territory is just dogshit, and Russia is rejecting this out of hand. Russia wants all of Ukraine (which was obvious when Crimea was taken), and likely won't settle for less, but they're probably willing to placate Trump through bribery somehow. Trump already laid the groundwork for giving Putin everything by not even condemning Russia's invasion at the UN. Its utterly insane. Trump, and by extension the US, are siding with a terrorist. When "peace talks" fall through, Trump just blames "dictator" Zelenskyy, and says "whelp I tried, guy is just unreasonable". Social media is already a sea of Russian propaganda so everyone just eats it up. Zelenskyy's best line at this point is to look to the rest of Europe and see if the UK and France actually have a spine (Germany doesn't), but the problem is Trump isn't a mere isolationist, he's a criminal, and will likely go as far to actually work against Ukraine/Europe by feeding Russia intel (Tulsi Gabbard lol). Situation is completely fucked. I don't even know what universe you could possibly be living in where denuclearization is somehow on the table.
i hear trump clubs baby seals too
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On February 21 2025 14:58 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Trump banning the woke stuff and "we have 573 different genders" I dont really care about.
I assumed Baal would care more about Trump bashing Mexico than about Ukraine...
That you personally don't care about words being banned is irrelevant (although it says a lot about the weakness of your character and morals). The words that have been banned have actual meaning and technical usage in the scientific world, not just with the ultra woke people. In some way it's like if you said you didn't care about slavery if it came back because it would only affect people of color... No one needs to know that you only care about things that directly impact you and your ability to build capital, it doesn't change the fact that in a society we need to be able to describe reality freely. Banning words is something fascists do. The fact that the right wing has always been trumpeting free speech above all and saying "I might not agree with you but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" and now when it's time to prove it many are content to ignore the issue. Like everyone knew about all of those free speech grifters like Musk and Peterson, it was never about the principle of free speech, it was about money and owning the libs. Now that they get to do it with the government's help they have no reason to oppose its authoritarianism.
But if Baal has any principles at all it is no doubt the first thing he would care about and call out.
On March 10 2025 20:21 RiKD wrote:
Nope. Trump is super cunning. You can say Trump has a low intellect or any number of things but he's def not low in cunning.
low cunning
noun
chiefly British
: clever but morally bad and dishonest methods
He succeeded through a combination of charm and low cunning
Low cunning doesn't mean to be "low in cunning" it means more like to be cunning in a low way.
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