Hmm im copy directly link, its not images from my pc
And it looks nicer with some pictures / videos in the thread and not just text. It can also be a better way to describe something than words. F.example I dont think most people here have any idea about the PKK gerilja. So describing images of it was badly needed imo. Some people would rather support islamic dictators that is now threathening Europe than to support the PKK gerilja... For christ sake !
On March 24 2017 02:15 Baalim wrote:
Islam needs reformers, as christianity had its enlightment years through critizism and satire, Islam needs the same medicine, and forbidding cartoonist and pander to them in a pathetic attempt of moral superioty is only preventing them of having it.
Assuming Christianity changed its ways through criticism and satire is far fetched to say the least. It has always been sects fighting over doctrine and eventually trying to keep up with modernity because they were losing customers.
That's exactly why essentially giving Muslims the finger about their religion has the opposite effect than what you're saying it's supposed to. It makes the "we're at war with the infidels" camp bigger and the western way of life a threat. There's a huge difference between criticizing someone and trying to cut them out, not even accepting them as someone who can live next to you. There are aspects of Islam that should be feared, but joining the people who point and shout and vote for demagogues is certainly doing the opposite of helping. Polarizing the situation is a solution that only a teenager or a zealot would come up with, when at the end of the day time works against any religion's influence
Aka the "Backfire Effect". The only effective way to get anywhere with someone who holds strong views which have integrated their personality to the point of being a core part of their identity is to present yourself as an epistemic peer, rather than talking at them. Depersonalizing the debate is less likely to trigger the Backfire Effect.
@VanDerMeyde For christ's sake, if you're gonna post a gigantic image put it in a spoiler tag or resize it once it fucks up the formatting of the page.
cool, I didn't know this had a name
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
there are no victims in a war of politics you dumbass
there are people in power and those who refuse to obey it
if you are gonna seek moral justice then you might start with a campaign against the USA as they are the biggest terrorist organization in the world
no im obviously not supporting Erdogan, Turkey was one of the fastest advancing countries in the world and it stood as an image how a muslim country can be modern, now its all turning to shit because of that midget's imperial views
but it also shows how masses choose to put a dictator in power disregarding any
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On March 25 2017 16:36 uiCk wrote:
Congrats, you managed to stretch your analogies from Infowars, Maher, Rogan and Islam to communist Russia, democratic USA, swizterland and Nazi Germany.
A+
There isn't a single thought here from you, just bookended what I already said with congrats and A+.
I can understand disagreement but I still doubt you've understood the point to begin with or even ever will. We may each think the other is an imbecile but I manage to understand what you say and at least try to be witty.
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
On March 25 2017 22:07 Spitfiree wrote:
Turkey was one of the fastest advancing countries in the world and it stood as an image how a muslim country can be modern.
Yeah but do you know why and how ?
Their previous leader visited France. Paris to be more exact. He was fascinated and inspired by how the society was like there.
He recognized that the most important thing to achieve something like that for Turkey was to "hold Islam down to a minimum".
Interesting, no ? "Dumbass"
But now they are back to Islam again... Its really sad, I agree.
You mean that holding down a religion to a minimum leads to progress? No fucking shit son. Except you are using Islam as an absolute example instead of religion as a whole which again portraits you as a dumbass.
Austria could've stopped the whole Ottoman Empire invasion if they actually reacted in the end of 14th century when they were invading Europe through my country, instead of sending help they were fucking each other in their castles, that's why it took 200 years and stupidity of Ottomans to not prosper technically to actually lose their weight and get stomped.
It's funny cause basically the same thing is happening right now, except in a modernized way and Europe's reaction is still the same. People never fucking learn.
On March 26 2017 16:59 Spitfiree wrote:
You mean that holding down a religion to a minimum leads to progress? No fucking shit son. Except you are using Islam as an absolute example instead of religion as a whole which again portraits you as a dumbass.
Not all religions are the same at the moment, "dumbass". You are not beeing honest when you try to label them as the same.
Only one religion proposes the horrible idea of a state sharia law system, and the best way to get there is Jihad, "holy war".
Not all religious look up to a man that was a pedophile, a rapist and a mass murderer you know.
The difference is that most muslims are uneducated fucks that easily turn to violence cause they live in poor conditions. Thats why I gave Turkey as an example, as a prospering nation you wouldn't see turks acting as animals like afghanis or iraqis would you? Prosperity leads to higher standard and higher education and that leads to lower violence
Is christianity as harsh as islam? No
As we are reviewing this from a religious standpoint... do christian nations actually hold a lot of guilt for destroying muslim countries which had the potential ot prosper for decades ? Oooh yeah.
Does christianity still believe women are not considered as human beings? Yeah, you can only have a fucking male pope thats enough.
Does it try to diminish the birth rights of citizens on topics such as abortions and using condoms and such shit? Oh yeah
Religions dont believe in right of the freedom of people, they exist to control them. It does not matter which one it is.
The only reason behind all of the problems with muslims is that they are living in bad conditions and are dumb as fuck. Which obviously is not necessarily Europe's problem to deal with. I still believe Syrian refugees should all be taken but Iraqis and Afghanis are all to be deported, as 90% of them are basically animals.
After all this fucking time you don't understand its not Islam. It does not fucking matter if islam changes or not. Such people will always search for something to put all their rage of unsatisfying life at. And there will always be some system of beliefs to provide the " solution ", in this case its islam - cool. That doesn't mean a thing. You don't see highly educated muslims going around in suicide vests or shooting people at bus stations do you? You never will, unless they are a sociopath.
Obvioiusly some bans should come down upon spreading Sharia law kind of shit in european societies, but that wont really deal with the problem either.
On March 25 2017 16:36 uiCk wrote:
Congrats, you managed to stretch your analogies from Infowars, Maher, Rogan and Islam to communist Russia, democratic USA, swizterland and Nazi Germany.
A+
There isn't a single thought here from you, just bookended what I already said with congrats and A+.
I can understand disagreement but I still doubt you've understood the point to begin with or even ever will. We may each think the other is an imbecile but I manage to understand what you say and at least try to be witty.
It's not a disagreement, i "got" what you said, 3 different people, with 3 different "ideologies" come to the "same" conclusion (whatever that is, I don't read/watch any of those guys, especially not for their POV given their specialization is comedy/entertainment)
Which somehow is supposed to show some kind of "evidence" to the argument that "Islam is X"
It just means absolutely nothing, and you know it, given u went ahead and used StarCraft characters followed by political entities an analogy which made your "point" even more irrelevant.
All these can replies can be avoided if you expressed yourself clearly, instead you use "wit" and terrible analogies to deviate from any discussion ; trolling.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I don't know, I never said what they said as being wrong, given that I haven't listened to it (stop.inventing shit), and once again, my criticism is directed towards them being shit sources and them all being entertainers; their opinions matter as much as a rappers opinion. Trashcan.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
So... if you make a great point about something uiCk, I cant show what you typed to others because you are not a "reliable enough source" on that topic ?
Anyway... Sam Harris, Hitchens and BrotherRachid are as good sources as you can get. They're simply ignored by the left every time...
Yea that's pretty obvious, using me as a source for anything would be pretty idiotic.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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