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Santafairy   Korea (South). May 17 2017 15:38. Posts 2233


  On May 13 2017 19:14 lebowski wrote:
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what's your take on this Santafairy, why was Comey fired and in such a manner?


seems like he's not a great FBI director

Trump likes firing people, that manner? I read some things explaining that maybe you want to wait until your own government is working, like your executive appointments get through the obstruction of the legislature, so you have people in place first

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 22 2017 21:14. Posts 9634



If i had to pay as much as people do in the US just to have Mike Pence give out the speech at my graduation id be mad as fuck. This guy expresses the beliefs of the Handmaid's Tale-like society, anything else is just a bonus.

Whats more disturbing are the shouts against the silent protest.

edit: oh its actually a private catholic college, okay, explains the stupid shouts

 Last edit: 22/05/2017 21:20

nolan   Ireland. May 23 2017 02:28. Posts 6205

students protesting "homofobia" at the largest catholic college in USA.

maybe i'm kind of insensitive but it's just silly.

making it more silly, is that i guarantee those same students wouldn't dare walk out on a speaker if it were say... an Imam.

the double standard here is absolutely ludicrous but fortunately it gets called out more recently. I wonder if anyone will protest Linda Sarsour at CCNY next week. gonna go ahead and doubt it.

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Baalim   Mexico. May 23 2017 08:17. Posts 34262


  On May 23 2017 01:28 nolan wrote:
I wonder if anyone will protest Linda Sarsour at CCNY next week. gonna go ahead and doubt it.



lol of course not and she is a manic even worse than Mike Pence.

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Baalim   Mexico. May 23 2017 08:25. Posts 34262

another attack ffs.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3384047...g-isis-french-election-marine-le-pen/


The timing just before elections is too much for a "coincidence" it appears that whoever is behind them indeed wants Theresa May in power.

Its an interesting theory because many right wingers believe muslim migration to be some kind of planned attack to gain power by populating, yet the terrorist cells appear to prefer right wingers to create strife, It appears to me as nearsighted strategy wise, migration with non-assimilation seems way more dangerous for Europe than actual armed combat but I suppose what they want is an actual war, attain more power as the cause grows and live as allahs warrior instead of being cunning old men dying in their beds many years before the they can reap any victories from such a long play

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 23 2017 08:40. Posts 5113

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 23 2017 13:09. Posts 3096

yeah suicide bombs usually require religious conviction. The attack against the dortmund bus was a guy trying to make it look like IS, but I really doubt that's the case here. I also think it's more of a desperation move at this point, taking the best opportunity to inflict the most damage, without a real clear thought about the political implications. IS is spread thin, the caliphate-claims no longer really work for them.

The Dortmund bus attack wasn't motivated through wanting to hurt the reputation of muslims either though. From wikipedia;

 
It was later revealed that on the day of the attack, he had bought put warrants for €78,000 from an investment bank using the internet connection in his hotel room. These would have made him a large profit of up to €3.9 million if Dortmund's share price were to plummet after a successful attack, but it only dropped by 5% after the attack and later recovered

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 23 2017 22:30. Posts 9634

Of course that they want right wingers in control, they will spread massive chaos and the majority are funded by Russia. Russia s influence will destablize Europe

They have to realize ISIS is on the verge of disbanding and they can still do that, those terrorist attacks are not going anywhere any time soon

 Last edit: 23/05/2017 23:05

Baalim   Mexico. May 24 2017 00:22. Posts 34262


  On May 23 2017 07:40 VanDerMeyde wrote:
right wingers plant bombs, they usually dont blow themself up these days Baal



I think you misunderstood my post, I didnt say right wingers did this, I said whoever did this (most likely ISIS) wants Theresa May in power

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Baalim   Mexico. May 24 2017 00:30. Posts 34262


  On May 23 2017 21:30 Spitfiree wrote:
Of course that they want right wingers in control, they will spread massive chaos and the majority are funded by Russia. Russia s influence will destablize Europe

They have to realize ISIS is on the verge of disbanding and they can still do that, those terrorist attacks are not going anywhere any time soon



I think you are missing the mark here for many reasons.

Even if you assume such an absurd ambitious social engineering from the Russians were in motion (extremely unlikely), Putin is currently the biggest threat to the existance of terrorist cells and the instauration of a Caliphate, the Muslim brotherhood does not want a strong Russia.

I mentioned that slow European cultural erosion is more dangerous than armed conflict against such weak opponents however that is also another huge social engineering plan nearly impossible to carry out properly and it doesnt bring a Caliphate unlike warfare and since the brotherhood's main goal is the caliphate I suppose strife is the way to get it.

Its a silly goal since even if it gets established it will be demolished very fast but that isnt obvious to somebody who believes god is in their side

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 24 2017 11:33. Posts 5113

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 24 2017 17:34. Posts 9634


  On May 23 2017 23:30 Baalim wrote:
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(extremely unlikely)


Its literally public information that for example Marie Le Pen funded her campaign through a Russian bank. There are connections to many right wing parties and Russia. Just because Putin is a threat to ISIS, doesn't mean ISIS cant exploit their wrong doing on the continent.

You are right as well however, both things are equally terrifying


Baalim   Mexico. May 25 2017 01:05. Posts 34262


  On May 24 2017 16:34 Spitfiree wrote:
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Its literally public information that for example Marie Le Pen funded her campaign through a Russian bank. There are connections to many right wing parties and Russia. Just because Putin is a threat to ISIS, doesn't mean ISIS cant exploit their wrong doing on the continent.

You are right as well however, both things are equally terrifying



And Hillary clinton gave 20% of the production of Uranium to Russia... having ties with someone it doesnt mean its part of a huge social engineering plans in a currency war by electing nationalistic leaders, more likely than not those plans and actions are more immediate.


Also ISIS primarly goal isnt to destroy Europe, but to create a Caliphate, armed conflict with the west seems to make it more likely.

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 25 2017 02:18. Posts 3096

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

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Baalim   Mexico. May 25 2017 05:32. Posts 34262


  On May 25 2017 01:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/



of course its not proven if it was she would be in Jail, but did you read the entire Snopes article? even when defending Clinton it sounds way more compelling than anything I've seen between Trump and Russia, she did recieve over 130 million dollars from Russian Uranium magnates unreported and sneaked by a subsidiary to the Clinton foundation.

But I maintain my general position that we simply dont know wtf is going on, but I've never even mentioned the Uranium thing before because it wasnt my point, what I was trying to say is that having ties with Russians does not mean you are part of a mass scale social engineering plan to elect nationalist leaders to weaken the EU, there really isnt anything solid that points towards that.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 25 2017 08:30. Posts 9634

What are you talking about. How is there no solid proof of pointing towards that? Putin is the supreme leader of Russia, there is not a single person in the country that doesn't answer to him. His political opposition randomly dies and billionaires that don't act on his behalf have all of their property in the country seized and are put on trial. Saying all of that to just paint the picture of how far the guy will go for absolute control. That being said nationalist leader's main idea is to weaken the EU, which just happens to be the priority number one for Putin as well. Considering 90% of them have ties to Russia you are saying thats not a direct evidence? Obviously no one will go out in public and say " I receive money from Russia to try and destroy the EU " as thats what you imply would be the direct evidence. Russia is afraid of NATO expansion and EU, undermining those organizations is the main political goal for the country.


Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 25 2017 13:46. Posts 3096

I agree that individuals who have contact with russians are not necessarily part of some mass scale social engineering plan.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 25 2017 15:04. Posts 9634

A whole political campaign is not a connection to an individual rather than a whole political party. One that manages to receive 2nd majority in elections in one of the most important countries in Europe

 Last edit: 25/05/2017 15:05

uiCk   Canada. May 25 2017 21:09. Posts 3521


  On April 27 2017 11:53 Santafairy wrote:
goodbye 9th circuit court of appeals


Goodbye Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals too?

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 25 2017 21:17. Posts 5113

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