On March 17 2025 19:20 Stroggoz wrote:
Id say DOGE is basically an axe to wield over people's heads and prevent freedom of thought, in the same way that Bertrand Russell defined free thought: "the absence of economic penalties".
You think auditing and cutting government wasteful spending is censorship? lol.
I wish DOGE were 10x more powerful and swift, firing the people who didn't have a good reason to not answer the email would have been blissful, so many people's work wasted, digging up holes and filling them up metaphorically, they would be much more useful in the private sector doing actual productive things.
Similarly in Britain, judges sent XR leaders to prison..for blocking a road? It's entirely politically motivated...at the very least house arrest is a lesser punishment, if they were to be deemed to get any punishment at all. So it's straight punitive. I know absolute psycho's that get house arrest for driving 100km/h in a school zone or whatever. Blocking a road is nothing compared to that.
Blocking roads is against the law, imo far worse than driving 100kmh in a school zone, deliberate violence against others are in general terms much worse than wanton recklessness that endangers others. Curious thing that this is what you feel as fascistic and not sending thousands to jail every year for "hateful" posts on social media.
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Santafairy Korea (South). Mar 18 2025 15:37. Posts 2242
On March 16 2025 04:12 Santafairy wrote:
did you defend with your life the right of government workers to write penisballs in memos under biden and obama, or are you just another hypocritical conservatard?
They should have the right to write "penisballs". Obviously the terminology is a pretty dumb choice if it distracts and makes people laugh everytime its used. But I mean there is some weird academic terminology out there. Like "sexy primes", and "rapeseed". Cannot be helped I guess. The name was chosen and we gotta run with it.
rapeseed is the common name of a plant, and why have you and the revolutionary latched onto this idea that the US federal government is some kind of giant peer reviewed academic journal?
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 18:29. Posts 5365
On March 17 2025 19:20 Stroggoz wrote:
Id say DOGE is basically an axe to wield over people's heads and prevent freedom of thought, in the same way that Bertrand Russell defined free thought: "the absence of economic penalties".
You think auditing and cutting government wasteful spending is censorship? lol.
I wish DOGE were 10x more powerful and swift, firing the people who didn't have a good reason to not answer the email would have been blissful, so many people's work wasted, digging up holes and filling them up metaphorically, they would be much more useful in the private sector doing actual productive things.
Similarly in Britain, judges sent XR leaders to prison..for blocking a road? It's entirely politically motivated...at the very least house arrest is a lesser punishment, if they were to be deemed to get any punishment at all. So it's straight punitive. I know absolute psycho's that get house arrest for driving 100km/h in a school zone or whatever. Blocking a road is nothing compared to that.
Blocking roads is against the law, imo far worse than driving 100kmh in a school zone, deliberate violence against others are in general terms much worse than wanton recklessness that endangers others. Curious thing that this is what you feel as fascistic and not sending thousands to jail every year for "hateful" posts on social media.
I do think sending people to jail for hateful posts is fascist, or at least an attack on freedom of speech.I have talked about that before actually.
As for doge austerity, your applying that very selectively. A lot of hard working people lost their job.
But it makes little economic sense to fire people on the spot if they are not good at their job usually. Either in public or private sector. Sudden unemployment has a bigger cost to society than idk, giving someone a few months notice to move on. This is especially true when there's no safety net. Unemployment is basically a social virus in neoliberal societies.
It's ideology to think the private sector is some beacon of efficiency. The tech sector just wasted 100 billion on self driving cars. Then they spent hundreds of billions more on AI and still got outdone by a random Chinese startup.
Are you forgetting how research and development works?
The financial sector extracts rents rather than putting it into productive investment. Trillions spent on sharebuybacks since the great recession.
So I mean yeah you can find economic waste all around the place. It doesn't make any economic sense to apply Sudden mass layoffs without warning especially when the person in charge is clueless.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 18:37. Posts 5365
Hate speech is largely a propaganda term imo. I'd say a lot of genocide is done through love speech, possibly more so than 'hate' speech.
Makes zero sense to discriminate. It's just something for the liberals to feel righteous about. Actual left wing people are more disturbed by apathy than hate.
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I do think sending people to jail for hateful posts is fascist, or at least an attack on freedom of speech.I have talked about that before actually.
Ok good to know you are not with Loco there.
As for doge austerity, your applying that very selectively. A lot of hard working people lost their job.
You can work hard at digging holes and filling them back up which is what most of the gov do.
But it makes little economic sense to fire people on the spot if they are not good at their job usually. Either in public or private sector. Sudden unemployment has a bigger cost to society than idk, giving someone a few months notice to move on. This is especially true when there's no safety net. Unemployment is basically a social virus in neoliberal societies.
AFAIK the fed workers were given many months of payments in advance after being fired.
It's ideology to think the private sector is some beacon of efficiency. The tech sector just wasted 100 billion on self driving cars. Then they spent hundreds of billions more on AI and still got outdone by a random Chinese startup.
Are you forgetting how research and development works?
Both of your examples are flat out wrong.
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Of course there is waste in the private sector but being profit driven has a strong mechanism to avoid waste since you lose money, there is no such mechanism in the Public sector, the incentives are others.
The financial sector extracts rents rather than putting it into productive investment. Trillions spent on sharebuybacks since the great recession.
I agree that there is a lot of parasitism in the financial sector but I think its a net positive, regarding public companies the issue is a misalignment of incentives between shareholders and the company itself, the value of a stock is immediate, short-sighted and whimsical, the company is interested in profitability, long-term, and stability, and management answering to shareholders often hurt the company, frankly I haven't thought to even suggest a solution for this that wouldn't cause more problems than it fixes.
So I mean yeah you can find economic waste all around the place. It doesn't make any economic sense to apply Sudden mass layoffs without warning especially when the person in charge is clueless.
I don't think we are gong to agree on the layoffs since I want a minimalist government, the bureaucracy is inefficiency manifest, it's so big that even a radical president with majority in the senate, house and supreme court they can easily grind him to a halt, DOGUE won't accomplish much, every significant action thawed by a random judge, every move trapped by lawsuits, challenges, noncompliance and the all devouring human blob that is the American bureaucracy will just end up with a few scratches after Trump's terms, it will heal them and attach a few extra limbs... It reminds of that INSIDE game.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Mar 28 2025 10:06. Posts 5365
In regards to my example, deepseek is a AI model that cost 5 million dollars to train by what seems to be a bunch of moneyed independent Chinese scientists. They made it open source. It dropped the price of industrial AI use by over 10x instantly.
It outperformed every single model from Google, Amazon, and Microsoft, Meta, and Nvidia, which have
Some 10 trillion in combined capitalization, and argued in favor of a 500 billion dollar data center investment as well as blocking gpu exports to China so they could beat em.
It caused a 500 billion dollar drop in Nvidia stock.
In my view that demonstrates that the tech
Sector in America is not very good with money.
It's like if north Korea beat America in the space race imo
In any case, doubt it will last but pretty amazing while it did.
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I think Trump is a vile and cruel man and a conman of low cunning.
Yep
weren't you like ultra right wing before?
According to some people and maybe on a few topics still. I tend to vote "Høyre" (Right) in elections,I would vote Democrats in USA for sure..
We also have FrP (more far right than Høyre, but still liberal compared to Republicans) here. Then we have NorwayDemocrats (microparty) that is far right and agrees with Trump a lot. They copy a lot of his politics. I would never vote for them, thou FrP could be a decent option for me. But I prefer Høyre. I also think their leader Erna Solberg makes a much better prime minister than FrP's leader Sylvi Listhaug.
Arbeiderpartiet (Labour Party) are in charge and I think they are doing a good job. The topics I disagree with them on are not that important really. Thats the thing I like about Norway, I sleep well nomatter who is in charge.
On April 09 2025 20:15 Loco wrote:
Holy market manipulation batman. Trump is an absolute mad man... made the mistake of dumping some stocks before the recovery :/
You cannot fathom how bad things have gotten in the last 7 years regarding the cartels, its absolute madness like 10x worse, so yeah I want him to turn anything remotely related to the cartels into ashes, but sadly I dont have high hopes for it to help, the cartel controls every corner of the government, every governor, major, judge and bureacrat is tied to the cartels and I mean this literally.
I don't expect you to believe me, I clearly remember you calling Obrador "the best president in the world" and he is the one who founded this narco socialist dictatorship unlivable hell hole.
On April 09 2025 23:04 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Thats the thing I like about Norway, I sleep well nomatter who is in charge.
Yeah I remember that being an issue with politics discussions with Eriador before, it's as difficult for me to conceptualize a working honest government as it is to him to conceptualize the evil of the once I experience.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Apr 18 2025 11:25. Posts 5365
On April 09 2025 20:15 Loco wrote:
Holy market manipulation batman. Trump is an absolute mad man... made the mistake of dumping some stocks before the recovery :/
You cannot fathom how bad things have gotten in the last 7 years regarding the cartels, its absolute madness like 10x worse, so yeah I want him to turn anything remotely related to the cartels into ashes, but sadly I dont have high hopes for it to help, the cartel controls every corner of the government, every governor, major, judge and bureacrat is tied to the cartels and I mean this literally.
I don't expect you to believe me, I clearly remember you calling Obrador "the best president in the world" and he is the one who founded this narco socialist dictatorship unlivable hell hole.
So America bombed Cambodia and the khmr Rouge came out of that. Then they bombed Iraq and Afghanistan and ISIS came out of that.
As bad as the cartels are, I'm pretty sure bombings done by a government that doesn't discriminate would make things worse.
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Well, according to Baal's favorite intellectual JBP, Canada will not survive another 4 years of liberal democracy, which means I live in a much bigger hellhole than Baal.
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On April 18 2025 10:25 Stroggoz wrote:
So America bombed Cambodia and the khmr Rouge came out of that. Then they bombed Iraq and Afghanistan and ISIS came out of that.
As bad as the cartels are, I'm pretty sure bombings done by a government that doesn't discriminate would make things worse.
It is a very different situation, those are ideological groups, bombing communists and islamists will help them recruit more into their anti capitalist/USA movement, however the cartels are businesses, people dying doesnt help them recruit since the point is profit, the anti-american sentiment they will create wont help them recruit in any way.
On April 18 2025 19:42 Loco wrote:
Well, according to Baal's favorite intellectual JBP, Canada will not survive another 4 years of liberal democracy, which means I live in a much bigger hellhole than Baal.
Hyperbolic statement, but Trudeau's government has been one of the most incompetent in the developed world in the last decade, and that is a very though field lol.
On April 18 2025 10:25 Stroggoz wrote:
So America bombed Cambodia and the khmr Rouge came out of that. Then they bombed Iraq and Afghanistan and ISIS came out of that.
As bad as the cartels are, I'm pretty sure bombings done by a government that doesn't discriminate would make things worse.
It is a very different situation, those are ideological groups, bombing communists and islamists will help them recruit more into their anti capitalist/USA movement, however the cartels are businesses, people dying doesnt help them recruit since the point is profit, the anti-american sentiment they will create wont help them recruit in any way.
Yeah I mean I think there's definitely truth to that and youd know cartels better than me. I would expect something monstrous to come out of it, just not sure what.
I base this on a pretty simple observation that violence on that scale tends to pretty much always destabilize and radicalize societies. All powerful actors and institutions exploit it for their own purposes as well.
That aside from it being an act of aggression that would create another enemy for America. Does war ever really improve the world? I cannot think of many cases where it has.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Apr 20 2025 08:39. Posts 5365
On April 20 2025 06:56 Stroggoz wrote:
Yeah I mean I think there's definitely truth to that and youd know cartels better than me. I would expect something monstrous to come out of it, just not sure what.
I base this on a pretty simple observation that violence on that scale tends to pretty much always destabilize and radicalize societies. All powerful actors and institutions exploit it for their own purposes as well.
That aside from it being an act of aggression that would create another enemy for America. Does war ever really improve the world? I cannot think of many cases where it has.
The thing is that the government has publicly took a policy of not fighting the cartels are all, they actually protect them and will protect them from the US, so something has to be done and it wont come from our government.
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