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Baalim   Mexico. May 11 2017 22:08. Posts 34262

Im so surprsised they threw Yair to the wolves this early, he has so much potential being the only "true" mexican fighter at that level and being flashy etc, Edgar seems like such a bad matchup for his style but if he beats Edgar damn... superstar born.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 11 2017 23:02. Posts 13120


  On May 11 2017 21:08 Baalim wrote:
Im so surprsised they threw Yair to the wolves this early, he has so much potential being the only "true" mexican fighter at that level and being flashy etc, Edgar seems like such a bad matchup for his style but if he beats Edgar damn... superstar born.


Yair said his coaches asked for this fight, and he was fine with fighting Edgar.

I'm still going back and forth on it. Hard to cap.

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iakim322   United States. May 12 2017 00:04. Posts 1335

Made bets on Poirier, Maia, Edgar and JJ

Larger bets on JJ and Frankie. Though thinking about it, I'd be more confident in Frankie if it was a 5 Rd fight

Not so confident with Maia because Jorge definitely looks like a filled out, strong Welter (little confusing since he fought at 155 with no known weight cutting probs at all). But then I was also a little confused as to how Maia made Gunnar Nelson look like he had never grappled before so going to ride the Maia wave

Thinking JJ by late stoppage. Bigger threat than Gadelha early because of the power that Andrade will have early but think she'll have even less for JJ than Claudia did in Rds 3-5

Somehow still undecided about the Main


PuertoRican   United States. May 12 2017 06:38. Posts 13120



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Angela Hill: Why I'm Picking Andrade to Upset Jedrzejczyk at UFC 211

"In my fight I felt like I hesitated when my corner called for step-through knees and outside elbows, but when I finally threw them they worked and I was able to cut her on both cheeks before the final bell. Joanna is particularly good at those things, so I'm expecting her to sting Andrade a few times as she charges in. Also, Joanna being bigger and longer than me -- it's going to be a lot harder for Andrade to pressure her to the fence where it's easier to score points from flurries and takedowns. Joanna doesn't typically start kicking until her opponent is hurt but it's doubtful Andrade will give her enough to space to throw them anyway.

At the same time Joanna doesn't move her head as much as I do, so if she does get swarmed, she's going to absorb a lot more damage. Just judging by looks, I think Andrade hits harder than Karolina Kowalkiewicz, who was able to drop Joanna in her last fight, but Andrade is not as precise. If Andrade tightens up her striking and lands something clean it's going to be lights out.

Another thing to look at is the whole wrestling side of things. Andrade was comfortable standing with me, but if she does decide to go to the ground, she has strong takedowns. She's not amazing anywhere, but she's strong and commits to whatever she does, so wherever she feels her opponent feels uncomfortable, she'll try to put them there. I think Joanna has exceptional takedown defense (especially when she digs her fingers in her opponent's eyes in the clinch), so if Andrade is unsuccessful with taking her down but keeps trying, there's a good possibility she'll gas. I think Andrade's best chance of winning is to keep it standing and not waste energy on takedowns like Claudia Gadelha did in her and Joanna's last fight.

One last aspect I'll touch on is Andrade's gas tank. She's a hook machine and I was pretty surprised that she was able to keep that up all three rounds. This weekend she's fighting five rounds, but I don't think that'll be a problem for her. Joanna, however, cuts a lot of weight to make 115lbs and has never fought someone who pressures and throws body shots like Andrade. Andrade has a good chance of tiring Joanna out in this fight. Andrade typically lunges in with a right hook to the body and then loops the left hook over the top and this is a tactic that has served her well against taller fighters."



https://champions.co/p/angela-hill-is...drade-to-upset-jedrzejczyk-at-ufc-211

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iakim322   United States. May 12 2017 07:49. Posts 1335

Having a pretty raw, even if powerful, striker plan to basically have a kickboxing fight with a former Muy Thai and kickboxing champion can't be the way to go

Gotta make JJ at least wary of the takedown by putting in honest effort on some or feinting for them. Agreed on lights out if she does manage to feint and land a clean, looping overhand. JJ's chin definitely isn't granite. Possibly her only real weakness besides a lack of 1 hitter quitter power


lucky331   . May 12 2017 10:56. Posts 1124


  On May 11 2017 21:08 Baalim wrote:
Im so surprsised they threw Yair to the wolves this early, he has so much potential being the only "true" mexican fighter at that level and being flashy etc, Edgar seems like such a bad matchup for his style but if he beats Edgar damn... superstar born.



the kid needs to be tested and its the right time imo. though you could argue otherwise. if he loses he still has a lot of time to recover. he's still young enough to get those losses and get them back if that makes any sense.

im rooting for him. we need another superstar thats not conor.


CamilaPunt   Brasil. May 12 2017 11:19. Posts 2422

i wonder if junior still has nightmares at night 'no more cain please no more stop stop i cant take it no more'
its a shame cain issues w injuries


unbelievable that after those murders he might be champ hehe


PuertoRican   United States. May 12 2017 17:59. Posts 13120




Jared Gordon is out of his fight due to food poisoning or something.

From 14 fights to 12 fights. Lucky for us, we basically have a regular sized PPV card, and all of the best fights are still intact.

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iakim322   United States. May 12 2017 22:27. Posts 1335

JJ's face is a little more gaunt than usual? Or am I seeing things


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 12 2017 22:51. Posts 9634

considering what she was eating in the embedded I doubt she has any hard times making weight


PuertoRican   United States. May 12 2017 23:16. Posts 13120


  On May 12 2017 21:27 iakim322 wrote:
JJ's face is a little more gaunt than usual? Or am I seeing things


JJ face looked fine to me.

Other people said this is the first time she used a towel during weigh-ins. I don't remember if she did or not.

Also, you'll probably notice how she and Andrade are super friendly. It's cuz they're friends and JJ will be defending her belt for the first time against someone eho she doesn't have a problem with.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 13 2017 00:48. Posts 13120




Stipe Miocic (246) vs. Junior dos Santos (245)
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (115) vs. Jessica Andrade (114.5)
Demian Maia (170.5) vs. Jorge Masvidal (171)
Frankie Edgar (145.5) vs. Yair Rodriguez (146)
David Branch (185) vs. Krzysztof Jotko (185)
Eddie Alvarez (156) vs. Dustin Poirier (156)
Chas Skelly (146) vs. Jason Knight (146)
Jared Gordon (Scratched) vs. Michel Quinones (145.5)
Marco Polo Reyes (154) vs. James Vick (156)
Jessica Aguilar (115) vs. Cortney Casey (116)
Chase Sherman (250) vs. Rashad Coulter (241)
Gabriel Benitez (145.5) vs. Enrique Barzola (146)
Joachim Christensen (204.5) vs. Gadzhimurad Antigulov (204)

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lucky331   . May 13 2017 04:16. Posts 1124


  On May 12 2017 21:51 Spitfiree wrote:
considering what she was eating in the embedded I doubt she has any hard times making weight



thats just for the cameras.


traxamillion   United States. May 13 2017 05:41. Posts 10468

I think Edgar is gonna do Yair like he did Swanson but maybe worse.

I think Andrade wins a decision.

Hoping for Maia but feel pretty on the fence about the result.

Slightly favor JDS


northsails   Bulgaria. May 13 2017 11:04. Posts 410

Great card full of close match ups.

Love Alvarez and Maia at + odds. I also think Stipe melts JDS. He has all the tools to expose Junior weaknesses and even in the 1st fight when he was a lot greener, you could debate that he won the fight. Ben Rothwell was just a perfect match up for JDS, Stipe on the other hand is always going to be a tough one.

Probably will play Frankie also because of the odds, fascinating match up. Yair is still very raw but can pose big problems for Edgar with his speed, length and striking, who has been in a lot of wars and is getting up there in age.

Co-main should also be a great fight.


alejandicto   . May 13 2017 18:57. Posts 865

My bets:

- 20 bucks on JJ + Barzola
- 20 bucks on JJ + Masvidal ITD


iakim322   United States. May 13 2017 19:30. Posts 1335


  On May 13 2017 04:41 traxamillion wrote:
I think Edgar is gonna do Yair like he did Swanson but maybe worse.

I think Andrade wins a decision.

Hoping for Maia but feel pretty on the fence about the result.

Slightly favor JDS



I thought of the cub fight too. But Frankie had more time there in a 5 Rd.

Yair is also longer and fights longer than cub. Could easily see Yair successfully playing matador while racking up points w/o much time left for Frankie to make something happen. With that said, hopefully Frankie catches a kick and drives Yair into the ground. Kinda regretting making him one of my main bets but let's go get em Frankie


PuertoRican   United States. May 13 2017 19:31. Posts 13120


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PuertoRican   United States. May 13 2017 23:36. Posts 13120




My final picks:

• JDS > Miocic
• JJ > Andrade
• Maia > Masvidal
• Edgar > Rodriguez
• Poirier > Alvarez
• Skelly > Knight
• Jotko > Branch
• Vick > Reyes
• Aguilar > Casey
• Barzola > Benitez
• Coulter > Sherman
• Antigulov > Christensen

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alejandicto   . May 14 2017 00:08. Posts 865

Go Barzola!!!

I think First round for Barzola?

YEAH!!!

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