UFC 211: Miocic vs. dos Santos 2

Date: Saturday, May 13th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:30 LP.net / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (FX): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (PPV)

Stipe Miocic (16-2) vs. Junior dos Santos (18-4) (Heavyweight Championship)
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (13-0) vs. Jessica Andrade (16-5) (Women's Strawweight Championship)
Demian Maia (24-6) vs. Jorge Masvidal (32-11) (Welterweight)
Frankie Edgar (21-5-1) vs. Yair Rodriguez (10-1) (Featherweight)
Krzysztof Jotko (19-1) vs. David Branch (20-3) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Eddie Alvarez (28-5) vs. Dustin Poirier (21-5) (Lightweight)
Chas Skelly (17-2) vs. Jason Knight (16-2) (Featherweight)
Chase Sherman (9-3) vs. Rashad Coulter (8-1) (Heavyweight)
Marco Polo Reyes (7-3) vs. James Vick (10-1) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Jessica Aguilar (19-5) vs. Cortney Casey (6-4) (Women's Strawweight)
Gabriel Benitez (19-5) vs. Enrique Barzola (12-3-1) (Featherweight)
Joachim Christensen (14-4) vs. Gadzhimurad Antigulov (19-4) (Light Heavyweight)

Other

- Jarjis Danho was expected to face promotional newcomer Dmitry Poberezhets at the event. However, Danho pulled out of the fight in mid-April citing an injury. He was replaced by Chase Sherman on April 18. In turn, Poberezhets was removed from the card for undisclosed reasons and replaced by promotional newcomer Rashad Coulter on May 2. Coulter is a local Texas fighter, which is where this event is at.
- The 2008 Olympic gold medalist in freestyle wrestling and former UFC Flyweight Championship challenger Henry Cejudo was expected to face Sergio Pettis at the event. However on May 10, it was announced that Cejudo suffered a hand injury and the bout was canceled. Pettis will receive his show money, if he successfully makes weight Friday morning, sources say.
- A featherweight bout between promotional necomers, Jared Gordon and Michel Quinones was expected for the event. However, Gordon pulled out of the fight on the day before the event due to stomach illness and as a result, Quinones was removed from the card.

First impression of the match-ups:

• JDS > Miocic
• JJ > Andrade
• Masvidal > Maia
• Edgar > Rodriguez
• Cejudo > Pettis
• Poirier > Alvarez
• Knight > Skelly
• Jotko > Branch
• Vick > Reyes
• Aguilar > Casey
• Barzola > Benitez
• Sherman vs. Poberezhets (dunno)
• Gordon vs. Quinones (dunno)

On April 23 2017 20:35 PuertoRican wrote: First impression of the match-ups: • JDS > Miocic • Poirier > Alvarez

What? Why?

I really dislike how they feed Alvarez with Poirier, the guy with absolutely terrible TDD. And JDS fights once a year and doesn't really seem like he can beat Miocic... then again its HW

On April 23 2017 20:42 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2017 20:35 PuertoRican wrote: First impression of the match-ups: • JDS > Miocic • Poirier > Alvarez What? Why? I really dislike how they feed Alvarez with Poirier, the guy with absolutely terrible TDD. And JDS fights once a year and doesn't really seem like he can beat Miocic... then again its HW

Poirier vs. Alvarez
Poirier is taller, has a longer reach, hits harder, has better cardio, has better BJJ, and has above average TDD and can get back to his feet if needed. Alvarez's wrestling has always been overrated, and he has shown in the UFC that his wrestling isn't that good, and he gasses if he tries to use it a lot.

I think Poirier will be able to use his reach to get around Alvarez's striking guard and can catch him if he tries to do his old striking style of jumping in to throw a straight-right punch and darting out to the left (he used to do it in every fight but only tried it in his UFC debut against Cowboy Cerrone, then stopped doing it in his next fights because he got owned by Cerrone's counters and knows other UFC fighters will be looking out for it -- it's best for lower level fighters).

Also, Alvarez's last fight was in November 2016, where he got demolished by Conor and was knocked down 3 times before getting TKO`ed on the ground. I already favor Poirier to win, and I am more confident in Poirier knowing he's facing a guy who is coming off a title loss (many people end up losing their next fight after a title loss/title fight loss) and was knocked out in that fight.


JDS vs. Miocic

JDS already beat Miocic in their first fight.

"But Miocic has improved since then and is the champ!" = JDS has improved as well. We thought he was done when he went into the Rothwell fight, but he showed a calm demeanor and his offensive and defensive striking skills were upgraded. JDS also has more 5-round fights and will know how to pace himself better while going against a guy who he already beat.

Also, Miocic's current 4-fight win streak isn't impressive, imo:

• He TKO`ed Mark Hunt on the ground in the 5th round of their fight after wrestling him the entire time and getting him tired. (Size and wrestling)
• He easily TKO`ed Andrei Arlovski in 54 seconds of Round 1, a guy who everyone knows has a terrible chin and has been finished in his last 4 fights in a row. (gift win)
• He then KO`ed Fabricio Werdum after Werdum literally kept chasing him around the octagon with his hands down, throwing ugly arm punches and was trying to close the distance. Werdum literally ran at a fast speed into the finishing blow. Werdum got clipped and rocked at one point, but kept doing the same thing that led to him getting KO`ed. (dumb performance and essentially a gift win)
• He then came back to beat Alistair Overeem after Overeem dropped him and could've gotten a TKO, but chose to stop punching and jump for a guillotine, which failed, and Miocic came back to easily TKO Overeem with GnP. (once Overeem can't protect his chin, he loses, which is why he is so focused on movement and technical striking instead of throwing big bombs these days -- dumb move by Overeem, which set up a gift win)

You can make an argument for those 4 wins above, how they were against Top 10 fighters, but imo, Miocic hasn't beaten a legit Top 5 fighter in his last 4 fights without there being some luck on his side (Hunt and Arlovski aren't Top 5). Whether it's being a much bigger fighter with wrestling against a smaller fighter with no wrestling skills; or facing a guy with the worst chin at Heavyweight; or facing a guy who is running into your punches and has his hands down the entire time; or getting dropped and luckily not getting GnP`ed, Miocic hasn't proven anything to me lately that says he is superior to JDS and can beat him in a rematch.

JDS opening at +175 at 5dimes was laughable. He's currently +145, and I expect the lines to get closer during the next 3 weeks.

Wow I'd be all over JDS at +175. Sick line I need to get some cash on 5dimes. I'd probably take JDS at evens

On April 24 2017 17:11 traxamillion wrote: Wow I'd be all over JDS at +175. Sick line I need to get some cash on 5dimes. I'd probably take JDS at evens

Within 7 hours of my last post, JDS went from +145 to -105.

I forgot to mention that along with JDS improved striking, he is also the much better kicker and has the ground game if it goes there (doubt it will unless JDS gets the TD). JDS chin and cardio allowed him to get through Miocic's technical boxing in their first fight cuz Miocic was forced to respect his power punches that he kept throwing.

Miocic might be a little more technical than he was in their last fight, but so is JDS, and JDS has the kicks as I previously mentioned.

whoa wasnt expecting such a good card when i opened this thread :D

Like Edgar a lot here. Poirier and Cejudo as well

Like JJ too but then I always do. Dangerous fight for her though

On the fence for Maia/Masvidal and Stipe/JDS

Just a few years ago, I though Cain had taken JDS's soul. Who knew that so relatively shortly after, JDS would be so close to the title again while the guy who beat the living shit out of him for roughly 45 minutes of Octagon time is kinda forgotten. Crazy sport

Only bet I am considering right now is JJ at -160. I like Dos Santos and Masvidal but odds are not that good anymore

On April 28 2017 17:41 alejandicto wrote: Only bet I am considering right now is JJ at -160. I like Dos Santos and Masvidal but odds are not that good anymore

Don't bet JJ at -160.

A lot of people like Andrade straight up, so you'll get better odds on JJ during the next 2 weeks.

On April 28 2017 21:04 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2017 17:41 alejandicto wrote: Only bet I am considering right now is JJ at -160. I like Dos Santos and Masvidal but odds are not that good anymore Don't bet JJ at -160. A lot of people like Andrade straight up, so you'll get better odds on JJ during the next 2 weeks.

Are you betting on JJ too?

On April 30 2017 03:33 alejandicto wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2017 21:04 PuertoRican wrote:   On April 28 2017 17:41 alejandicto wrote: Only bet I am considering right now is JJ at -160. I like Dos Santos and Masvidal but odds are not that good anymore Don't bet JJ at -160. A lot of people like Andrade straight up, so you'll get better odds on JJ during the next 2 weeks. Are you betting on JJ too?

I'm on a break from betting. I don't like to bet when I'm busy with university.

That being said, I play DraftKings every week when there's a UFC card. Betting and playing DraftKings takes two different types of skills and ways of thinking, and I can't do both when I'm busy with school.

I'll have JJ and Andrade in my DK teams, but I don't know who my final pick is just yet.

PR what are you studying if I may ask? Seems to me like you've been in the university for the past 6 years

On April 30 2017 18:05 Spitfiree wrote: PR what are you studying if I may ask? Seems to me like you've been in the university for the past 6 years

My goal is to become an English teacher (secondary education, aka high school).

I graduated in 2016 with a BA in English (focus in teaching). I'm currently in an English Teaching Credential program, which is 3 semesters long. In 1 month from now, I'll be done with the 2nd of 3 semesters and, in December 2017, I will complete the credential program and become a licensed high school teacher.

As far as teaching goes, I've been doing 20% teaching and 80% observation in a real high school classroom for the past few months. From August to December, I'll be teaching at least 50% of the time during this last semester. Also, I was offered a summer English teaching job, so I'll be doing that since it's only 1 month long and will still leave me with 1 month of vacation afterward.

Jarjis Danho was expected to face promotional newcomer Dmitry Poberezhets at the event. However, Danho pulled out of the fight in mid-April citing an injury. He was replaced by Chase Sherman on April 18. In turn, Poberezhets was removed from the card for undisclosed reasons and replaced by promotional newcomer Rashad Coulter on May 2. Coulter is a local Texas fighter, which is where this event is at.

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Also added to this card is Gadzhimurad Antigulov vs. Joachim Christensen. (I'll update the OP later)

We're set to have a 14-fight card as long as nobody pulls out.

On April 30 2017 19:25 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2017 18:05 Spitfiree wrote: PR what are you studying if I may ask? Seems to me like you've been in the university for the past 6 years My goal is to become an English teacher (secondary education, aka high school). I graduated in 2016 with a BA in English (focus in teaching). I'm currently in an English Teaching Credential program, which is 3 semesters long. In 1 month from now, I'll be done with the 2nd of 3 semesters and, in December 2017, I will complete the credential program and become a licensed high school teacher. As far as teaching goes, I've been doing 20% teaching and 80% observation in a real high school classroom for the past few months. From August to December, I'll be teaching at least 50% of the time during this last semester. Also, I was offered a summer English teaching job, so I'll be doing that since it's only 1 month long and will still leave me with 1 month of vacation afterward.

That is awesome.

What are some books you would like to teach to your students?

Have any suggestions for summer reading?

I have The Gift by Nabokov lined up to start. Finished The Stranger by Camus a couple of weeks ago and liked it. I am always looking for some good reads.

On May 04 2017 04:21 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2017 19:25 PuertoRican wrote:   On April 30 2017 18:05 Spitfiree wrote: PR what are you studying if I may ask? Seems to me like you've been in the university for the past 6 years My goal is to become an English teacher (secondary education, aka high school). I graduated in 2016 with a BA in English (focus in teaching). I'm currently in an English Teaching Credential program, which is 3 semesters long. In 1 month from now, I'll be done with the 2nd of 3 semesters and, in December 2017, I will complete the credential program and become a licensed high school teacher. As far as teaching goes, I've been doing 20% teaching and 80% observation in a real high school classroom for the past few months. From August to December, I'll be teaching at least 50% of the time during this last semester. Also, I was offered a summer English teaching job, so I'll be doing that since it's only 1 month long and will still leave me with 1 month of vacation afterward. That is awesome. What are some books you would like to teach to your students? Have any suggestions for summer reading? I have The Gift by Nabokov lined up to start. Finished The Stranger by Camus a couple of weeks ago and liked it. I am always looking for some good reads.

My favorite genre is Young Adult (YA) literature.

As for the books I'd like to teach my students, it's tough to answer. I currently teach an English Language Development (ELD) classroom, and will continue teaching an ELD classroom next semester along with one freshman Literature & Writing class. My mentor teacher let me teach my ELD class when we were doing an introduction to poetry, and then a few days later, I followed that lesson up with a 2pac poetry lesson, where I basically taught my students how to use read and break down a poem (in a basic way) while using the 8 poetic devices we studied a few days prior. As for the freshman English class I'll teach next semester, the majority of the texts are already set in stone, so we'll be covering stuff like Romeo and Juliet and The Odyssey, to name a couple.

While I enjoy reading, English majors and teachers don't get to read as much cool stuff as you'd think. We're generally too busy reading a shit ton of textbooks and required novels in university, then we're super busy reading new textbooks and re-reading old textbooks and reading endless essays and responses once we finally get a teaching job. I may be an English teacher, but I won't lie and act like I've read stuff by Tolstoy or Nietzsche (I'm more into the most well-known YA authors).

Some books I tell people to read are:

Native Speaker: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/298664.Native_Speaker
After the First Death: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/869907.After_the_First_Death
Speak: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9817161-speak

If you're not into YA literature, I only recommend reading Native Speaker.

Okay, I'm definitely spamming you with book requests, have a hard time selecting books these days, I usually end up reading things recommended by people like Bill Gates or Larry Page. Pretty cool that you decided to take on one of the most valuable, yet unacknowledged professions in the modern world.

P.S. I've read a bunch of Russian Classics, they might be extremely valuable in sense of progress in literature, but I find most related problems in them quite dull viewed in perspective of our time. American/English classics are so much better imo.
P.S2 I'm done with off topics now :D