Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 21 2022 12:37. Posts 5330
On May 21 2022 09:13 Baalim wrote:
Anybody else finds funny that a game tester throws shade at professional gamblers, investors and traders as autistic?
Bro you lived in your mom's basement for like 25 years and had no friends most of your life but you lift a few kettles and you think you can take some shots lol, you are the autistic king in here, well perhaps Floofy is, so you will have to settle for prince.
I think Loco was using the term descriptively. I'm autistic apparently. Or so every online test tells me. I see a lot of other similarities with other apparently autistic people like Jungleman or even Greta Thunberg.
I'm pretty sympathetic to the view that autism isn't a weakness for some people. This would not be the case if the diagnosis had much stricter conditions.
A lot of the anti-therapy attitude has as much to do with the residue from victorian-era culture as people having ego problems. Talking about ur feelings and mental problems is not something that European culture and its offshoots have done well at. But yeah I'd expect more than a few men seek out therapy quite quickly. I've found that young people are very open about mental health problems. In fact they are often open to a fault. So maybe Canada has a much different culture.
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hiems   United States. May 21 2022 14:09. Posts 2979
Lol..loco!!!
Honeslty there is a really bad movie called "grandmas boy" loco reminds me of the villain video game tester in that lol
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hiems   United States. May 21 2022 15:00. Posts 2979
tell me that is not a dead ringer of loco lol
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Obviously I'm using the term descriptively, hence why I added "-like" afterwards. I am referring to symptoms commonly associated with autism but which can be found in people who do not have autism. The inability to have intimate relationships in the real world and niche online obsessions are examples of that. Baal's obsession with culture war stuff and memes and his never-evolving libertarian ideology are autistic-like. I have never met a single person in my entire life who acts and thinks the things that Baal does in real life. Well adjusted people who have loving relationships take no interest in such things. Look at the people at a libertarian convention. These are not well adjusted folks.
I think most people who ended up like that would not have without online life being so predominant in their formative years up until now. They take root when there are incentives to live in an asocial manner with cheap dopamine rewards constantly being accessible. When life can be sustainably lived by being mostly online, it creates dumb people or smart people with autistic or adhd-like symptoms. A gambler and trader can live like that and reinforce these symptoms. A game tester cannot FYI (it always requires teamwork and real-time interaction so there's no evading social feedback).
I don't know if there is anyone from LP or TL who knows Baal in real life, so he is free to parade a false self around as much as he wants. Same goes for hiems. I on the other hand have known several people from the community, some of which since I've been quite young, like Fayth, in real life. I've had people over to my house. I've attended LANs. I was never free to be fake about myself and my life on these websites, or I would have been found out. I've always been honest and transparent and I am the same today. There are no signs of ego issues in my life. You are projecting. Also lying about my social life. I have had friends my whole life.
In my childhood, especially in the pre- high speed internet days, I could always be found outside or at a friends house. I had at least a dozen close friends in my neighborhood that I met up with on a regular basis. After school I would often stay at school for another two hours at the park to hang out with my friends, very often girls. My formative years were extremely social. I was well-liked. The exact opposite of an autistic child. Internet changed some of this for me and everyone else but fundamentally my brain has remained social and adaptive.
When I stopped gaming/gambling I did "lose" some of my friends since we no longer had those activities to do in common, and that's the only time in my life that I talked with Baal, and he's basing his generalized statement on that period. I was isolated in a new city and didn't know what my next steps were gonna be because I didn't want to do poker anymore.
I didn't grow up as a nerd, I grew up as one of the popular kids. Again, people such as Fayth could attest to that, I have introduced him to some of my friends when we first met up. Fayth was basically my first nerdy friend and I was happy to introduce him to my friends. Fayth was also known for having ego issues online, especially when he lost games, he rarely took it well, whereas I was always mannered. People who've played with me can attest to that. I was pretty good but I lost plenty of times to people from this forum like Erling and Locoo (naranjito) and never gave them shit for it. People with ego issues don't like to lose and like to blame others. I did not. So again, you have no evidence to back up your claim, only prejudice.
Baal likes to pretend that he's known me when we've barely ever interacted through chat during one particularly difficult year in my life 12 years ago. There are so many gaps in his knowledge of me that he makes up for with pure fantasy in a way that suits him, but it's all easily debunkable.
Oh and one more thing about ego issues. Since this is a gym thread: the most common things people do when they have ego issues is lifting too much weight with poor form, which quickly results in injury, or going to the gym too often, which results in crappy progress and early burn out. Or they will start using steroids when they really shouldn't because they are not experienced enough to do so. Somehow, with my "great" ego issues I've managed to avoid all of these ego traps too. Slow and steady natural progress still after 8 months, no injuries, no burn out. Amazing isn't it? Guess we'll have to wait longer to find that thing that obviously reveals that I'm an egomaniac.
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 21 2022 21:45. Posts 5330
I know of several autistic libertarians. I really doubt Baal is on the spectrum. He could always take some quick 5min test and see how high he scores.
did you first meet them online? right-wing libertarians?
my point was that right-wing libertarians are not common people to encounter "in the wild" for the average person who goes to work or goes to school. I have yet to meet one that way. did you ever have to discuss state-issued driving licenses with someone like this? would you think they're well-adapted if you did?
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 22 2022 01:10. Posts 5330
No i've never met them. They are famous people. Quite a large part of the country thinks David Seymour is somewhere on the spectrum (he is the leader of our libertarian act party). I think they are probably correct. Funnily enough, I have a friend who has had sex with him. So there is a bit of 2nd hand info. Another one is Alan Greenspan. Actually that one is less reliable, i'm going off convo's people have had with him.
My methodology for deciding if someone is on the spectrum is to look at the very vague definition of autism and see if they fit enough of that definition. Or to see what they get on a good diagnostic test.
I've not been diagnosed as autistic, because I don't see the point in doing so. I have however been diagnosed as ADHD.
I made up my mind that Baal was not on the spectrum at all based on online interactions.
In our poker strategy group a few years ago he joked that "you and drone666 are studying sims like med students with asian parents". Which struck me as something someone would say if they don't have the singular focused obsession that autistic people usually have. If I had to guess, Baal would get less than 15/30 on the test above.
Libertarianism has always struck me as a very sociopathic political ideology, and not an autistic one. It's premised on enriching yourself and not giving a shit about anyone else in society basically. I'm not sure if many of it's proponents would ever be diagnosed with sociopathy though.
Again, i'm just following the definitions here. If the sociopathy checklist says that sociopaths often don't follow the rules of society, then nazi's can't be total sociopaths can they? People often say Dick Cheney was a sociopath. But he doesn't meet many of the conditions on the checklist. One could argue if that's a bad definition or not. Also before you point this out, i'm aware definitions have been revised and scrutinized a lot.
I don't think you have a bigger ego than a normal person. Clearly this forum isn't a good place to get reliable feedback from your "peers", heh. Btw someone please tell me what lostaccount has that makes him post 10 times then delete all his posts the next day.
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. May 22 2022 01:36. Posts 5330
On May 21 2022 23:21 Loco wrote:
did you first meet them online? right-wing libertarians?
my point was that right-wing libertarians are not common people to encounter "in the wild" for the average person who goes to work or goes to school. I have yet to meet one that way. did you ever have to discuss state-issued driving licenses with someone like this? would you think they're well-adapted if you did?
Well, I would think they are ideological. Generally what is meant by "well-adapted" is that they are holding together a healthy personal and professional life. If that's not what you mean then explain it.
Fanatics and/or political radicals can have healthy social lives. It's very dependent on whether they are rewarded for it. I'd imagine the millions of dollars that many think tank libertarians get paid for not thinking is enough for them to live happily and pursue a normal healthy relationships and afford families. Gary Becker won a nobel prize for saying families are like businesses where you proposing marriage is like a market transaction. It comes across a very inhuman world view, but the guy probably had a healthy family life. For every guy like that, there's always a woman who will marry you not for your psychopathic worldview but for your success. So Gary Becker lives happily ever after getting to bang mrs Becker and raise a bunch of little employees, er i mean children.
Yeah, David Graeber said about ten years ago that he'd never even met a libertarian in real life, only on the internet. I've met some libertarians in real life that were quite well adjusted in the sense that they were rich, had good relationships, and seemed mentally sound. It's just that their world views were sociopathic.
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Like I said, I think his online life has imparted autistic-like behaviors in him, which implied that I didn't believe he was autistic. I'm referring largely to social awkwardness/lack of social self-awareness, and the niche obsessions that he has had for so long. The same can be said about ADHD: people who didn't grow up with it (it's also a neurodevelopmental disorder) can become more ADHD-like through abuse of new technology. Because of the long-lasting nature of his obsessions with numbers, and his coldness, I chose autistic-like, but sociopath-like is also valid, since he isn't obsessed with numbers for the sake of them but because they represent money and future power. But it's all done without a relationship to the world. He's also ADHD-like, because he's emotionally immature, easily gets distracted in a conversation, can rarely follow the main points, and can't be bothered to learn important skills like understanding logical fallacies, etc, that are crucial to someone who likes to debate. It goes beyond laziness imo. In fact, this whole thing about autism is a perfect example: I wrote "(which is autistic-like)" in parentheses to make sure that this would be understood as a minor side point, and it was immediately turned into the main point and countered with "LOL NO U ARE AUTISM KING LOCO".
Most likely Baal has had a learning disorder and low empathy from a young age which has made him vulnerable to internet addiction. ADHD is a possibility. People with internet addiction will often look for more extreme things over time and repeat the same behaviors, as that is the only way to stimulate dopamine when the receptors have been weakened so much. They will find themselves sharing interests with people with other disorders that involve repetition compulsion and who are also vulnerable to extremist/rigid views.
Yes, by "well-adapted" I meant a healthy personal and professional life, which comes from a healthy self-esteem. It's impossible without it. The best sign that someone has an unhealthy sense of self/ego problems is that they live very unfulfilling lives over a long period of time. They are chronically in conflict with others or avoidant of them, and feel empty if they don't have things to distract themselves with. Trolling and compulsive one-way posting are signs of that. So is mass posting and mass deleting posts, but that is more specifically linked to trauma/bipolar manic states. When your emotions can switch rapidly or you have a weak sense of self, you might not recognize/relate to the things you've previously said, or you'll be afraid of being judged for them once you're no longer in your "I'm the king/queen of the world" manic state, so you'll remove them.
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hiems   United States. May 22 2022 11:21. Posts 2979
you know u r an ego because of your reaction to when u lost to me and baal countless times and threaten to go on exodus only to cum-back countless times again to repeat the cycle.
you threatening ur exodus shows u think ur the best poster on here or something lol. and u coming back countless times shows ur ego cannot handle the fact that u lost...
not that hard to figure out.
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hiems   United States. May 22 2022 11:51. Posts 2979
Loco!!! U study psicoogy all day n Im better than u at it!!
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CurbStomp2   Finland. May 22 2022 17:50. Posts 284
is being able to talk to people irl, girls even, some special skill here?
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lostaccount   Canada. May 22 2022 18:39. Posts 6258
lol u guys writing essays again i aint reading that shit
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Santafairy   Korea (South). May 22 2022 19:54. Posts 2233
On May 22 2022 17:39 lostaccount wrote:
lol u guys writing essays again i aint reading that shit
What if, and I'm just spitballing here, they broke it up into 30 posts and spammed it like the thread was their personal Facebook messenger
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hiems   United States. May 22 2022 20:23. Posts 2979
lol loco the problem with u is that u r trying to be the popular kid in high school/life without any work.
u feel like u need to be high status constantly but realized at a certain point u couldnt be that so you took the easy way out and "opted out of capitalism" because your ego can't handle it and instead chose to be the ultimate communist hipster...
...and now u try and spin everything u do as amazing, ur life, etc...I really have never seen someone try so hard to prop up every aspect of their life before.
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lostaccount   Canada. May 23 2022 02:02. Posts 6258
On May 22 2022 17:39 lostaccount wrote:
lol u guys writing essays again i aint reading that shit
What if, and I'm just spitballing here, they broke it up into 30 posts and spammed it like the thread was their personal Facebook messenger
30 post 5 or 6 is okay but not 30
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Baalim   Mexico. May 23 2022 09:37. Posts 34262
On May 21 2022 20:18 Loco wrote:
Baal's obsession with culture war stuff and memes and his never-evolving libertarian ideology are autistic-like.
Bro you literally called yourself part of Antifa, I just don't like government overreach lol.
I have never met a single person in my entire life who acts and thinks the things that Baal does in real life.
Commie finds out he doesn't have libertarian friends, shocking.
Well adjusted people who have loving relationships take no interest in such things. Look at the people at a libertarian convention. These are not well adjusted folks.
Unlikle these well adjusted folks (Antifa mugshots)
A gambler and trader can live like that and reinforce these symptoms. A game tester cannot FYI (it always requires teamwork and real-time interaction so there's no evading social feedback).
Yes game testers are well known for being social butterflies lol.
I don't know if there is anyone from LP or TL who knows Baal in real life,
I've also met Fayth, he was suprisingly tiny lol, cool dude, oh I've met Locoo (naranjito) too, we partied and went to strip clubs in Brazil, you know, autistic stuff .
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Good god, you trying to prove you are very social and devoid of ego is pathetic, your ego isn't in getting angry at losing, your ego is "the sage's ego", I've told you that loooong ago, but lets leave it at that, we are too old to be having this lame discussion, you win, you are Chad Chadstein, you have more friends than Barney the dinosaur and have less ego than the ascended Siddartha, you win.
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Baalim   Mexico. May 23 2022 09:39. Posts 34262
btw, your eco chamber is concerning, I'd say about 50% of my friends are centrists, 25% lean socialist, 20% lean libertarian and 5% conservative.
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hiems   United States. May 23 2022 12:53. Posts 2979
loll loco!!!
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lostaccount   Canada. May 23 2022 14:41. Posts 6258
U guys just wasting ur time reasoning w the loco. Save ur energies guys
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