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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 23 2018 13:54. Posts 9634 | | |
I so want to start going to the gym again but last time I had a short episode (2-3 days) of arrhythmia which upon checks found no physical evidence which could've cause it, but I don't see how anything other than lifting more than my own weight could've caused more stress
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RiKD   United States. Jan 25 2018 22:08. Posts 9042 | | |
I feel like we have been over stretching before but I want to discuss it. I went to the gym today and was just dead so said fuck it let's do all the stretches I know and I felt pretty good. I gotta start doing yoga again mixed with other good stretching. BJJ specific stretching is also what I need and stretching so that I will feel better today and when I am like 85 if I live that long. |
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RiKD   United States. Jan 26 2018 02:14. Posts 9042 | | |
Went to yoga tonight. Bikram is the closest but I just get bad vibes from that sect. It seems like if you want to wear a bikini or some tight spandex thing and look at yourself in the mirror then go for Bikram otherwise I found this really cool place not too far away. The instructor was chill. The class was yin yoga which I don't know about man. You hold the poses for like 3 min. I got more of a meditation out of it than anything and the knowledge that my hamstrings are tight as fuck.
To anyone interested in going just do it man. Relax. Leave the ego at the door. It will be a decent stretch and relaxing and calming and chill even if you aren't pro at the movements (whatever that means).
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RiKD   United States. Jan 27 2018 02:09. Posts 9042 | | |
I just read a thread on reddit I found pretty interesting:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments...hing_thoroughly_debunked_as_promised/
cliff notes:
- Stretching does not prevent injury
- Stretching does not relieve soreness
- Stretching can only improve flexibility a little bit. There is not much bang for buck if that is the goal.
- The only reason to stretch is to feel good
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RiKD   United States. Feb 06 2018 02:05. Posts 9042 | | |
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Loco   Canada. Feb 06 2018 08:54. Posts 20968 | | |
Haven't read the thread yet but I took a course with Dr. Ian Shrier from McGill and he has done a lot of research on stretching. I learned from his research that stretching is good but static stretching should be avoided pre-workout. It increases the risk of injury. Dynamic stretching is ok. That was the big takeaway but I also remember some studies showing that very short stretching sessions have just as much benefit as the longer ones. Also the effects of stretching go away very rapidly.
I wouldn't trust anything from a website like T-Nation. Even if they link their sources, I can't trust them to accurately portray the study findings. Plus who wants to be marketed at while trying to learn things? Up your standards. |
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fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount | Last edit: 06/02/2018 09:07 |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 06 2018 20:33. Posts 9042 | | |
| Also the effects of stretching go away very rapidly. |
What exactly does this mean? The effects of doing a stretching session go away quickly so later that day I will be tighter or that getting into a stretching routine and increasing flexibility some will disappear if the practice is not kept up? Probably both. I experience both.
Did he talk about how much flexibility can actually be increased if at all?
| I wouldn't trust anything from a website like T-Nation. Even if they link their sources, I can't trust them to accurately portray the study findings. Plus who wants to be marketed at while trying to learn things? Up your standards. |
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Loco   Canada. Feb 07 2018 11:26. Posts 20968 | | |
It was a study from Sweden (Magnusson) which looked at passive torque after stretching. Basically they found that the effects of a stretch (which, yes, does make you more flexible) lasts less than 30 mins. They don't know if it lasts less than 15 mins though. So the point is that, if people think that after stretching they are going to be safer, say, for a long run, or 1h+ training session, most of that training is being done without the stretch having any effect. But since it actually increases the risk of injury, they are doubly wrong. But I don't know about studies on long term effects of stretching.
You can probably find everything you need through reddit/YouTube. Free fitness info from experts isn't something in short supply. Good ol' textbooks work as well, i.e. Starting Strength to learn proper form. The benefits of a place like reddit is that you can ask specific questions and you have other people around to scour the internet for interesting things and filter low-quality things out for you. You're not stuck in your own filter bubble with only your own individual point of view. Of course it's not perfect and sometimes mob mentality will lead you astray, but for fitness things I find it to be useful/reliable. The wider problem with reddit is that advertisers can hi-jack it for their own benefits (and they do, especially on the really big mainstream subs). Anyway, on the whole it's better than getting your info from some big commercial websites. |
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fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount | Last edit: 07/02/2018 11:43 |
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Mortensen8   Chad. Feb 07 2018 22:59. Posts 1845 | | |
| On January 22 2018 23:56 RiKD wrote:
I might start fucking with ashwagandha and ginger extract. |
Nah man, ashwaghanda fucked up my sleep but is supposed to be helpful for sleep but there's a reddit thread about it making some users not sleep. Something to do with thyroid I think or thalamus again... if you have overactive thyroid it will just make it even worse maybe its good if you have hypothyroid don't know but herbs are not a joke they're pretty strong tbh. It made me much more extroverted but I don't want to be different than I am, just made me weird. Also if you were to do it then just do it like they do in ayurveda and they probably only do it occasionally for some symptoms of something, they heat it up in milk and not extract just some powder. |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 08 2018 02:09. Posts 9042 | | |
| On February 07 2018 10:26 Loco wrote:
It was a study from Sweden (Magnusson) which looked at passive torque after stretching. Basically they found that the effects of a stretch (which, yes, does make you more flexible) lasts less than 30 mins. They don't know if it lasts less than 15 mins though. So the point is that, if people think that after stretching they are going to be safer, say, for a long run, or 1h+ training session, most of that training is being done without the stretch having any effect. But since it actually increases the risk of injury, they are doubly wrong. But I don't know about studies on long term effects of stretching.
You can probably find everything you need through reddit/YouTube. Free fitness info from experts isn't something in short supply. Good ol' textbooks work as well, i.e. Starting Strength to learn proper form. The benefits of a place like reddit is that you can ask specific questions and you have other people around to scour the internet for interesting things and filter low-quality things out for you. You're not stuck in your own filter bubble with only your own individual point of view. Of course it's not perfect and sometimes mob mentality will lead you astray, but for fitness things I find it to be useful/reliable. The wider problem with reddit is that advertisers can hi-jack it for their own benefits (and they do, especially on the really big mainstream subs). Anyway, on the whole it's better than getting your info from some big commercial websites. |
Haha. So by the time I drive home from yoga *poof* flexibility gone.That is my experience too but it does make me feel good and relaxed. I wonder how the hell we get more flexible. The consensus in that reddit thread was that it was possible to some extent but the bang for buck was quite low. I kind of like just having the attitude that I am inflexible as fuck and I just have to deal with it. If I get a good warmup in in jiu jitsu I am feeling pretty good so what's the difference. It's not like I have to pass a hamstring flexibility test for my life or anything like that. |
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my experience is that very small amounts of stretching - definitely no more than 10 minutes every 2 weeks of light yoga-ish stuff- has had really positive effects on my 'overall flexibility', and not just when I'm doing it. Definitely used to have a harder time touching my toes than I do now.
I'm on board with the 'stretching for longer periods doesn't benefit you more than doing it for shorter periods', but my own experience is most definitely that some stretching makes me significantly more flexible than no stretching at all does. |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 08 2018 14:56. Posts 9042 | | |
| On February 08 2018 01:20 Liquid`Drone wrote:
my experience is that very small amounts of stretching - definitely no more than 10 minutes every 2 weeks of light yoga-ish stuff- has had really positive effects on my 'overall flexibility', and not just when I'm doing it. Definitely used to have a harder time touching my toes than I do now.
I'm on board with the 'stretching for longer periods doesn't benefit you more than doing it for shorter periods', but my own experience is most definitely that some stretching makes me significantly more flexible than no stretching at all does. |
Significantly? Couldn't this just be in your mind? You stretch no more than 10 min. every 2 weeks and see a substantial increase in your flexibility? That is hard to believe. I go to yoga 2x a week and jiu jitsu 2-3x a week and if I were to stretch right now with out warming up I would be about as flexible as I ever was. |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 18 2018 16:08. Posts 9042 | | |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 18 2018 16:09. Posts 9042 | | |
Get to a gym that has one or ask your gym to buy one |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 18 2018 16:30. Posts 9042 | | |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 18 2018 16:41. Posts 9042 | | |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 18 2018 16:42. Posts 9042 | | |
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k4ir0s   Canada. Feb 19 2018 03:43. Posts 3478 | | |
I tried yoga for the first time the other day and it surprised me. My body felt more sore afterwards than if I had done weight training, and my back felt amazing. Not so surprisingly, I was the only guy in the class, but that's okay. I walked in like a boss and positioned my mat right in front of the instructor. 10min in and I forget all about the anxieties. Definitely going to keep at it once or twice a week
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I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly | |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 19 2018 03:54. Posts 9042 | | |
Yes! Right in front of the instructor you are a hero! Yeah man, the anxieties melt away with every breath and movement. How good is relaxation pose after a long practice though? I love the after practice glow. Everyone has it. The vibe in the place is palpable. Palpable may be too intense of a word for such a chill vibe but there is definitely an afterglow. I take it with me for a while. Good shit. |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 26 2018 04:01. Posts 9042 | | |
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