UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till - Page 4

i agree with baal. it was a championship fight and it might be the only championship fight till could get. what a waste.

it could mean one of two things. till is overrated or his camp is incompetent. woodley's camp on the other hand is world class and he's a super athlete. how would till have a chance to win vs that?

it also shows how good dana white is on the build up of each match up. that's why i stopped watching those videos before making a bet. i watch them after.

On September 09 2018 05:47 Baalim wrote: welterweights are fucking retarded.... the bigger southpaw with huge range adv skips into Woodleys range with is left hand resting at by his stomach, what could go wrong? I don't know if its shitty coaching or whats gong on, how is this possible?

Till didnt have much of a range advantage actually; they have about the same reach

Till got overhyped for sure. I think a lot of people, me included, were just wanting to not see Woodley as champ anymore. Credit where it's due though. Woodley has always been misguidedly whiny and has 0 personality. Still. But he's been an active champ who's knocked off the last several legitimate contenders in his weight class one after the other

Till has technical flaws to work on. Definitely on the ground where his choke defense was super suspect and as well as being the aggressor on the feet. But those can be fixed since he's still just 25 and isn't in his natural adult weight class. Pretty stupid to write him off so fast even after a pretty terrible performance. Can't compare directly but the current champ with multiple defenses at 185 was a guy cutting unnecessarily to 170 where he got knocked out by Wonderboy

Might be a point to be made about his camp though. Could be a thing where he's still been young and loyal to his roots but such a clear loss will make him look for better training prob here in the States. Not everyone can be Conor

We were just sick of Woodley running around the cage dodging shots for 5 rounds every match, while trying to hit that right arm, if he goes out like this every time he'd be a cool champion. Don't really watch the media and whining or w/e ppl say he does. It's all bs doesn't matter if its McGregor, Woodley or wheover

about till not getting another title shot. it's not about his ability. it's about the huge psychological dent this loss did to him, which i think could be a little too much.

about woodley just running around the cage. he had to vs thompson, right? i mean that was the right play, right? same with maia. but did he do that vs lawler? who, during that time, was really vicious. condit? koschek? be fair.

0 personality, sure that's true. but we're here to watch mma, not the wwe.

On September 11 2018 15:31 traxamillion wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2018 05:47 Baalim wrote: welterweights are fucking retarded.... the bigger southpaw with huge range adv skips into Woodleys range with is left hand resting at by his stomach, what could go wrong? I don't know if its shitty coaching or whats gong on, how is this possible? Till didnt have much of a range advantage actually; they have about the same reach

wow had to google that one but its true, I guess its the difference between fighting "tall" while Woodley us hunched over and throws mainly hooks that are shorter.

Nonetheless the point still stands, jumping into the pocket trying to hit a looping upercut against Woodly is retarded beyond comprehension.

On September 11 2018 22:07 Spitfiree wrote: We were just sick of Woodley running around the cage dodging shots for 5 rounds every match, while trying to hit that right arm, if he goes out like this every time he'd be a cool champion. Don't really watch the media and whining or w/e ppl say he does. It's all bs doesn't matter if its McGregor, Woodley or wheover

Word thats why I dislike Woodley he is the most boring champ ever and its not likle he is just playing it safe to get the win, he is actually more beatable when he was doing that passiv shit than how he looked now.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that he isn't just as safe running around. Think people underestimate how fast he is and how a misstep or an overreach could open them up to an instant KO punch, thats why he was doing it imo.

Someone like Thompson, who is much faster, has a wider range and good counter-striking etc. had major issues w Woodley

Woodley seems to have trouble against good counterstrikes as they don't let him load up, thus being the aggressor wouldn't be a good option. Thompson could've easily been given the decision in both fights for example, and he didn't exactly perform in an intelligent manner

woodley also knocked down thompson in both fights too.

a woodley vs macdonald rematch would be sweet. i don't think mac will be able to win this time.