I just love this woman - Page 2

yeah
I see value in streamers
She had positive impact on my mindset for sure
Entertainment industry as a whole plays big role in society, judge it or not it's nice to wind down watching admiralbulldog or her
Poker itself is a subset of the entertainment industry and I love it, and proud of it, it's just the times we live in

Again our values are different, I know how communism turns people into massive cunts and degenerates society, just ask my parents, the mindset of the people in my country is still recovering from the bitterness 30 years after they were overthrown here

It's pretty much impossible for me not to appreciate what amazing times we are living where things like this are possible, but you're from a different environment and won't see the same.
Btw she does NOT have to work - UK has a reasonable social system, council housing + disability benefits where you can have an okay life in non-expensive areas (compared to Czech republic at least)...if you're okay with just leeching from the government.

I'm not a communist. Anarchists and communists are not friends, since communists have a habit of, you know, killing them. I doubt your parents are very educated about political economy, but okay. At least they probably won't live long enough to see the fishless oceans that are predicted for 2048 that their beloved capitalism brought about. It's pretty rich to call people degenerates when you have the most degenerate of all professions in the world and you are very proud of it.

She doesn't have to work, but she still feels the necessity to do it, just like I did after I had banked my first $100k year in poker. Was I going to starve if I stopped playing? No. No one wants to just scrape by and rent a place forever. When you have an opportunity to make a lot of money, you capitalize on it, you don't know how long it's going to last. Often times, your dignity and your mental health take the hit.

Yes, we live in amazing times, rich with possibilities. What does Twitch contribute to that? Nothing. It's a mind-numbing form of entertainment that turns people into addicts and creates parasocial relationships devoid of meaning. We also live in the most dangerous times in the history of this planet with regards to sentient life, and yet most of us are too distracted (by things like Twitch) to do anything about it.

Guess who's back Hope i bump to you on tables

I called communism degenerating society as a whole
There's no question about that I think and has happened every time it was actually applied in practice
I guess it will be hard for someone to appreciate what we have and this is the best realistic system if you haven't lived in an oppressed communist society.

The fish argument is just bizarre man
You can't on one hand complain about twitch as a whole that it's murdering the oceans...
while at the same time r wasting your time on a poker forum built on an industry you don't want any part of responding to a person that loves poker twitch and all the modern possibilities instead of actually taking tangible action towards your actual values, that makes no sense to me.

Isn't putting down other people's values while doing the same thing they do pretty much a definition of hypocrisy?

Twitch provides entertainment and a voice + a conduit to entertainers and thoughta that wouldn't reach an audience otherwise

What do you think about her mindset for example in the second video I posted?

Lemon,

I love your continual usage of the term Leech™. It's like we've all grown up with it right? Those damn lazy niggers. drug addicts with no will power, and disability cheats. What about the 1% leeching countless amounts of capital from the 99% through labor, tax exemptions, off shore accounts, et al?

On January 17 2019 10:41 Loco wrote: I see the most complex organic machine that can be found in the known universe being reduced to different forms of slave labor -- when I know that it is not necessary -- and it makes me sad.

How do you know
I mean, "know" is a strong word for an anarchist, "believe" seems more appropriate ( given the history of mankind so far )

On January 18 2019 21:18 lebowski wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2019 10:41 Loco wrote: I see the most complex organic machine that can be found in the known universe being reduced to different forms of slave labor -- when I know that it is not necessary -- and it makes me sad. How do you know I mean, "know" is a strong word for an anarchist, "believe" seems more appropriate ( given the history of mankind so far )

I don't know what your definition of necessity is but I'll clarify what I mean by it. There's a couple ways to interpret what I said there depending on the frame of reference. Obviously, if someone's labor is being exploited because they have no other choice to put food on the table, it's necessary for them to do so. The frame of reference I was using is the macro one. In our world, food is not scarce, it's overproduced (by 1.5 times), so the reason they wouldn't have food if, say, they didn't work for a while due to illness, has nothing to do with scarcity, yes? As such it is not necessary that people starve to death when there's food nearby. Excluding exceptional circumstances, if it's happening, it is because some humans are deciding to do it to other humans. Now, I know that this behavior is not hardwired because there is no evidence that it is, but there is evidence that it is learned, so I don't use the word "belief". I also know that it's not happening because of God-created cosmic predeterminism. "Know" in both instances simply means "based on evidence".

If you want to talk about necessity and the history of mankind in the context of this thread, for 99.9% of our history we didn't exist in social structures that incentivized that we turn ourselves into a brand in order to "succeed in life". It's not necessary, and it's certainly not progress. There is overwhelming data that shows that this is nefarious for our individual health and overwhelming evidence that its source -- neoliberal ideology -- is the most destructive force in human history, and so it will have to go if humans value life (which they do). It's not staying because it's accomplishing something of value, but because of collective ignorance. That it has to be overcome is not something that is predicated upon the feasibility of anarchism.

On January 18 2019 11:42 LemOn[5thF] wrote: I called communism degenerating society as a whole There's no question about that I think and has happened every time it was actually applied in practice I guess it will be hard for someone to appreciate what we have and this is the best realistic system if you haven't lived in an oppressed communist society. The fish argument is just bizarre man You can't on one hand complain about twitch as a whole that it's murdering the oceans... while at the same time r wasting your time on a poker forum built on an industry you don't want any part of responding to a person that loves poker twitch and all the modern possibilities instead of actually taking tangible action towards your actual values, that makes no sense to me. Isn't putting down other people's values while doing the same thing they do pretty much a definition of hypocrisy?

Communism is defined as a classless, moneyless and stateless society. Can you tell me when that has existed and how it failed?

"You can't on one hand complain about twitch as a whole that it's murdering the oceans..."

Sure I can. I can even make a stronger case that might upset you, but hear me out. Say someone is addicted to Pokemon Go, and they really want to catch that pokemon they've been chasing for a long time. While they're on their way there, they stumble upon someone who is about to rape a girl in a dark alley at night. The girl has been overpowered and silenced. She's doomed unless this guy chooses to abandon his game and interfere. That decision right there has everything to do with the kind of education this person has had to develop their moral sense, and how badly they want to chase their carrot on a stick for personal prestige. If the culture this person lives in hasn't given them a moral education, but on the other hand incentivizes people to develop highly addictive games, and allows people in positions of power to facilitate indoctrinating people into consuming them, then it is understandable that this person would end up chasing the pokemon instead of helping, just like it is understandable that someone who has been abused throughout their childhood and who took up heroin to escape the pain ends up stealing money from someone they like in order to purchase it.

In case you don't realize the point that I'm trying to make here, I am pointing out the structural causes that have determined these individuals' behaviors, by influencing the reward system in their brains. These are not moral failings in a vacuum. The person wasting his life away on Twitch is a victim of the socio-economic structures they exist in just like the junkie is. It's the same with this girl who was pushed into monetizing her illness, but of course she's better off than a lot of people, and if someone values fame and money above everything else, then they won't think that she is a victim at all, in fact they might envy her. Now, If you say current late stage neoliberal capitalism is the best possible system, then you're essentially saying that it is influencing people to be the best versions of themselves possible. Yet these kinds of scenarios are actually possible under this "best system", and the main reason our oceans are dying is because people are too distracted by the many things they desire to consume to do anything about it, so I think it's pretty clear that it's not? I don't know why you insist on a false dichotomy between communism and capitalism, or why you insist on praising a system that is failing so hard.

How am I not taking steps towards my values? First of all, we are both human beings, so our values are not that different. Secondly, my values are worthless if I can't share information with others, which is what I'm doing here. If I was an elitist and I thought you were too stupid to understand what I'm saying, then I wouldn't bother, and then I'd be an hypocrite as a leftist who believes society has to change. Society is made up of people like you. The only way to change things is to talk with people you don't agree with. Are you saying that poker players are lost causes? That you have stopped thinking and learning and there is literally zero chance that you or other people reading this will use it as food for thought and possibly change their views?

Why would you categorize someone like this as unemployable? She's popular on twitch because she's a solid 7 with flaws that make her attainable which really appeals to the kinds of people who watch gamer streams. Herego she's just using her physicality as a tool which many women do. Plenty of people would hire her on looks/cuteness factor alone.

She is more or less un-hireable for any employment that interfaces with customers. She would have to get lucky in finding a unicorn manager and/or niche market/brand (which she has done but at what cost?). I don't think you could even stick her buried in a cubicle somewhere doing data entry. She would be disruptive to the other worker bees. I don't think you realize how allergic most corporations are to "damaged goods."

Well, there are exceptions to the Twitch being useless thing

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/366901309?t=12h02m12s

On January 19 2019 13:20 RiKD wrote: She is more or less un-hireable for any employment that interfaces with customers. She would have to get lucky in finding a unicorn manager and/or niche market/brand (which she has done but at what cost?). I don't think you could even stick her buried in a cubicle somewhere doing data entry. She would be disruptive to the other worker bees. I don't think you realize how allergic most corporations are to "damaged goods."

Yeah lol
like she'd literally slap an ass of everyone she sees bending over
Or spontaneously punches people's solar plexus
And makes Wanking gestures

pretty much rules out working in any corporation

Dunno about the others countries, but here in france, it's mandatory for the industries that employs more than 20 employees to have at least 5% of handicapped people. Otherwise they're paying a fine (which is probably dependent of the company whether they can employ them or not, I guess).

Oh great. So, it's just another EV calculation for upper management and/or CEO. One of my best friends has a disability. She has a bone disease that causes her a lot of pain. She eeks it out and I mean fucking EEKs it out on her disability payments. She lives in one of the "worst" neighborhoods in Pittsburgh meaning you hear gun shots on the regular and can visibly see the crack dealings going down daily. On the other hand I have met a lot of her neighbors and some of them are really great people which actually lowered my prejudices at the time (some of them are not so desirable people). I am a privileged white boy from the suburbs of Ohio. I never drove into the hood at night to share coffee and conversation on rocking chairs out on a porch in the fresh spring breeze under a bright, big moon. She was also trapped by Medicaire and Big Pharm. When we are talking about medicine cabinets I am talking about a fucking MEDICINE CABINET. She is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and just said fuck it and decided to source her own marijuana edibles for the pain. That worked brilliantly but then she was ostracized from AA and many of her "friends" stopped speaking to her. Sometimes she thought about working at the local Dollar General within walking distance (she has no car, barely enough for a bus pass) but what is the point? I mean she said she gets bored and lonely sometimes but working will fuck with her disability payments so what is the point?

5% seems really high? That is 5 out of 100 (obv). What do they consider "handicapped"? I am a fucking terribly, horrible alcoholic (in recovery) and Bipolar I Disorder and I have never even sniffed at getting disability. In South Carolina, they won't even consider you for Medicare unless you have cancer or are pregnant. The letter I received on the issue made it sound like I needed to both be pregnant and have cancer. I don't even want to drone on. Fuck government. Fuck corporations. There IS a better system.

Basically dude, you wanna fuck this girl. We get it, so does probably nearly every dude watching. There's probably a legion of 12 year old boys fapping to her VODs as we speak. I've seen a few similar streams and they are bad for your mind in many ways. Biggest one is the illusion of intimacy and contact (being inside her personal space/room) and the dream of connecting with her (chat, donation, whatever)... it is a predatory structure that feeds on lonliness and desperation for profit. So if I try to watch a stream like that, I just say to myself, "well, i'd hit that" -> close the fuckin' stream -> go meet real hot available women instead. I know one person with tourettes and he doesn't like it one bit when anyone records him or makes fun of his ticks. So, it's great she's seemingly having a laugh about it but you know she wishes she didn't have it.