Game of Thrones: Season 8 - Page 5

Well i think we are done with the numbers
enough talk about them.


The Question of tomorrow night will be :

Who dies

my top pics :

Greyworm ->
to me pretty obvious : He basically is born to die in battle + he has no important role in all that prophecy stuff + he had some goodbye kiss scenes with his lady
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Brienne ->
that whole she finally becomes a knight stuff somehow feels like her journey has ended + she is in the Battlefront + she has no important role in all that prophecy stuff
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Jorah Mormont ->
he has no important role in all that prophecy stuff + he had some pretty deciding scene where he said that he wished to be hand of the queen but not realiced that Tyrion is better suited for that job
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Tormund -> he just became the fan favourite last episode and basically is born to die in battle + he has no important role in all that prophecy stuff


out of these 4 people id say at least 2 die for sure and possible all of them will die



Small chance of death for one of the big players , too

Jamie Lannister may die
Theon Greyjoy may die


very small chance but would be pretty schocking and cool

Dany dies !
For some unknown reason somehow Nightking manages to kill Dany and so Jon Snow is the undisputed KING of humanity

been watching the last kingdom, feel's a lot more authentic than this show now, altho it is low budget. It is set in the dark ages. anyone else watch it? Game of thrones no longer seems like a medieval setting to me, it partly feels like it's set in the 21st century to me, not technologically wise, but with the way people behave, their beliefs, the way they talk.

would be quite weird if no major character dies e.g. Jaimie, Arya, Sansa rank

I can see Brienne suiciding to save Jaimie, but I can see the vice-versa as well

On April 27 2019 23:15 Stroggoz wrote: been watching the last kingdom, feel's a lot more authentic than this show now, altho it is low budget. It is set in the dark ages. anyone else watch it? Game of thrones no longer seems like a medieval setting to me, it partly feels like it's set in the 21st century to me, not technologically wise, but with the way people behave, their beliefs, the way they talk.

I've watched it too but its certanly many tiers lower than GOT in terms of writing, obviously the first 4 seasons before it went off the rails

On April 27 2019 23:59 Spitfiree wrote: would be quite weird if no major character dies e.g. Jaimie, Arya, Sansa rank I can see Brienne suiciding to save Jaimie, but I can see the vice-versa as well

I still have no idea why they never made a weapon for Jamie's hand.

Plenty of villains over the years have a weapon that they can twist on and off in place of their missing hand, just like the villain in Enter the Dragon:

On April 27 2019 23:15 Stroggoz wrote: ...... Game of thrones no longer seems like a medieval setting to me, it partly feels like it's set in the 21st century to me, not technologically wise, but with the way people behave, their beliefs, the way they talk.

Damn that hit me ....
But its true.


I couldnt figure out why i find Episode 2 of Season 8 absolutely medicore while all the casuals think its the best Episode of all times.....

I thought its mainly for the shallowness that replaced complex poliitics with feelings/emotions.

The only scene in Episode2 i really loved was the talk between Dany and Sansa.
I loved it because it was one of that typical game of thrones moments were everything is differnt than what it first seems.
Dany and Sansa had some obstacles with their relationship and then it seems they get to know each other better and start to like each other and just when you think finally those 2 girls get their shit together Sansa drops the hammer.
She basically says that if Dany wants to rule over them she has to kill them after the war cause they will not bend to anyone again ever.
This implies that Sansa was aware that she will not bend to Dany at the start of their talk but still let Dany talk about her side of the story not beause she gave her a chance to become friends but to get more details about how her mindset is,
This is how you treat an enemy (who does not know he is seen as enemy) to get an advantage .

This scene was absolutely great in my opinion.


Rest of the scenes were a lot more shallow imo
The trial at the start was cringeworthy since Danys speech made no sense at all...... afterall her father was a mad bastard and Jamie saved the world
Brans -> "The things you do for love" was at a bad timing imo..... it would have been so much cooler if he said that to jamie in private instead of randomly dropping it at the court ...

The Knighting Scene of Brienne......
Well that part felt like a Disney movie.... Tormund was funy but i dont think GOT is a bout being a funny show.

Lots of the reunions where shallow imo and poorley executed.


And i think one major reason i felt they were shallow and poorley exectued was that the people talked and behaved like 21Century people.
That hit me like a truck when u said that.
Didnt realize back then and wonderd why it felt so off....

now i know ;(

yes and it's become very simplistic. The way you make people beleive it's a medieval fantasy is through attention to the smallest detail. When we watch TV we can't consciously take in all of this detail, but it seeps in and feel's real to us. Take a tv show like Rome and it's just amazing at all of the detail put into it. And in particular, the character Vorenus is amazingly written, he feels like the kind of person who'se character you could expect from a high ranking roman military officer back then. Here's a scene from that show, that you just can't get from recent game of thrones; these kind's of scenes are here for character development and to make us beleive that it actually is ancient rome. Those are the kind's of conversation's they have.



@ spitfire. it's kinda funny making predictions about who dies/lives. predictions have to be made off very strange factors. Like, i could predict that everyone dies because that's the most realistic outcome if the night king's army is more powerful, then it makes sense that he just kills everyone and adds them to his army. But obv not many would predict that, since this is a tv show and it may be pointless to build up so many characters like that just to kill em all off mid season. We make these predictions based off the scriptwriters personality, and what might make a decent script, largely, not by what makes sense, that is for sure.

I agree, if I have to follow logic, the night king would just siege Winterfell and starve them out with a good chunk of forces and push to KIng's Lnading with rest

Episode 3 was SO SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The director for Episode 3 is also directing Episode 5, which means we might see another battle in there.

@Stroggoz

Rome was soooo good. One of my favorites. I would say Rome is better than post-GRR Martin GoT surely. So is Deadwood.

Re: GoT

I really enjoyed this episode although I thought some of the scenes in the corridors with Arya were a bit convoluted. That isn't the precise word. Stupid is another word. Really a tough episode to build though I'm sure and I'll put my quibbles aside and just say I really enjoyed this episode.

Not sure if we're doing the spoiler thing for this season, but I'll go ahead and do it in case.

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On April 29 2019 03:20 Daut wrote: Are we sure who died this episode? 100% dead: Mormonts, Theon, Beric, Edd, Melisandre, Not sure if dead: Jamie and Brienne? Greyworm? Tormund? Sam? Podrick? Missandei? Jon's dragon? Not dead: Bran, Arya, Sansa, Jon, Dany, Hound, Tyrion, Varys, Ghost, Davos, Drogon

Looks like no spoiler tags, won't post them in this one.

Am guessing none of the "not sure if dead" people I listed actually died (other than possibly Jon's dragon), which means we really didn't lose anyone of significance this week which is a bit of a cop out in a battle like this. Overall a good episode obviously, but had a few issues:
-shows/movies can make the screen dark but viewable, see the battle at end of two towers for reference
-wtf was Dany doing the entire episode
-why do they always have such awful strategy in these battles? why did the dothraki suicide into the black night? nobody thought about trying wildfire again? why not retreat south as far as possible to an easier to defend location like the twins or Moat Cailin?
-dont like how Arya was able to sneak up on the night king with hundreds of wights and a gaggle of whitewalkers surrounding him with no explanation after she leaves the locked room.
-WTF was bran doing the entire episode?


Good pacing, good suspense, everyone was involved in their own way, good use of the bodies in the crypt, right level of punishment to the living overall (minus the important characters), just wish they were slightly better about a few things.

Not a single strategic thought was given to this battle haha.

well, if i was commanding the living side i woulda ordered the two dragons to strafe/kite the dead army with dragon fire, and dothraki cavalry archers, while they were marching down from the wall, to decrease their numbers so the army was smaller on arrival. This is how the parthians defeated crassus, because like the army of the dead, crassus had no mobility and simply got wiped out by an army with superior logistics. anyone who plays starcraft knows this common strategy. It was also how the sycthians beat persia (or at least prevented persia from beating them), they simply strafed the persian army when they invaded with horse archers for thousands of miles. The persians gave up after many losses and decided to invade greece instead. If i was commanding the side of the dead i woulda had the night king leading the battle from a bunker 1,000 miles north of the wall, and had a luetienant command the dragon. I also wouldn't have attacked winterfell and simply seiged it and go right past it and down south, collecting a bigger army by wiping out anything that isn't protected by a castle, only after that point would i start attacking castles, but they would prob starve to death by that point.

On April 29 2019 03:36 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2019 03:20 Daut wrote: Are we sure who died this episode? 100% dead: Mormonts, Theon, Beric, Edd, Melisandre, Not sure if dead: Jamie and Brienne? Greyworm? Tormund? Sam? Podrick? Missandei? Jon's dragon? Not dead: Bran, Arya, Sansa, Jon, Dany, Hound, Tyrion, Varys, Ghost, Davos, Drogon Looks like no spoiler tags, won't post them in this one. Am guessing none of the "not sure if dead" people I listed actually died (other than possibly Jon's dragon), which means we really didn't lose anyone of significance this week which is a bit of a cop out in a battle like this. Overall a good episode obviously, but had a few issues: -shows/movies can make the screen dark but viewable, see the battle at end of two towers for reference -wtf was Dany doing the entire episode -why do they always have such awful strategy in these battles? why did the dothraki suicide into the black night? nobody thought about trying wildfire again? why not retreat south as far as possible to an easier to defend location like the twins or Moat Cailin? -dont like how Arya was able to sneak up on the night king with hundreds of wights and a gaggle of whitewalkers surrounding him with no explanation after she leaves the locked room. -WTF was bran doing the entire episode? Good pacing, good suspense, everyone was involved in their own way, good use of the bodies in the crypt, right level of punishment to the living overall (minus the important characters), just wish they were slightly better about a few things.

I keep pausing each scene of the video clip.

People who you thought might be dead but are in the video clip:

• Jamie = ?
• Brienne = ?
• Greyworm = alive
• Tormund = alive
• Sam = alive
• Podrick = ?
• Missandei = alive
• Jon's dragon = alive

On April 29 2019 04:12 Stroggoz wrote: Not a single strategic thought was given to this battle haha. well, if i was commanding the living side i woulda ordered the two dragons to strafe/kite the dead army with dragon fire, and dothraki cavalry archers, while they were marching down from the wall, to decrease their numbers so the army was smaller on arrival. This is how the parthians defeated crassus, because like the army of the dead, crassus had no mobility and simply got wiped out by an army with superior logistics. anyone who plays starcraft knows this common strategy. It was also how the sycthians beat persia (or at least prevented persia from beating them), they simply strafed the persian army when they invaded with horse archers for thousands of miles. The persians gave up after many losses and decided to invade greece instead. If i was commanding the side of the dead i woulda had the night king leading the battle from a bunker 1,000 miles north of the wall, and had a luetienant command the dragon. I also wouldn't have attacked winterfell and simply seiged it and go right past it and down south, collecting a bigger army by wiping out anything that isn't protected by a castle, only after that point would i start attacking castles, but they would prob starve to death by that point.

Yes, they definitely could have had a better approach with the dragons at the start, but i understand wanting to be conservative, especially with respect to scouting with them early due to the whitewalkers ability to throw the ice javelins and kill them. Losing a dragon early, having him revived by NK, and falling behind 1 dragon to 2 is a near instant loss. But I agree overall, use the dragons to kite the enemy and thin the number of wights that can attack the vanguard.

Well i loved the first 5 minutes .
So fucking epic

Then i have mixed feelings about the next like 70 minutes.....
Some great moments and lots of bullshit last second saves T_T i felt like in a marvel movie.... constant fighting and all the good people get last second saves all the time .....
The end however made up for everything.
I never expected that.


+ Show Spoiler +

Here's some major spoiler for what's to come

+ Show Spoiler +

Tyrion executed for treason
Jon kills danyres

I am really happy with this episode since the ending was so unexpected for me.

But still some points
Overall i think i wished more people died in a more realistic way
Game of thrones in the first Seasons has always been semi realistic in the way people die.
This last minute superhero saves Hollywood style started with Season 6

It was so much better when people actually died while in a shitty situation.


Its hilarious that Brienne is still alive being saved right before death again and again and again this episode
That just doesnt feel Game of Thrones like.

Many of the lesser important "main" characters were directly involved in fighting on the Battlefront and only Lady Mormont died during battle ????

Theon died vs Night King which i kinda expected before the episode.
Jorah died protecting Danny when he should be long dead before that since just like Brienne he almost died like 100times but got last second saved all the time T_T
Beric Dondarrion died way too late , too..... should have been dead 3 times allready when he finally died. (Would have loved him to pull a Hodor and get rekt while blocking the way.. but for some reason he keps walking and walking and doesnt die... till he finally gets pulled in the safehouse where he dies >-<

well overall i can say i am glad GOT ends soon
and i am glad the way it tourned out

What the fuck was that shit at the end?!?!?!??!

This was possible the worst fucking deus ex ever to be done on television. Holy fucking shit how can the writers be so fucking terrible. 70 Minutes of awesomeness to be ruined by their fucking stupidity (except the part where the dorthraki literally suicided themselves for no fucking reason whatsoever?!?!?!??!). I'm done expecting anything but trash plot from GoT tbh, if I knew there were more seasons to come I would've probably dropped the series right here. This was so fucking stupid it hurts me.

On April 29 2019 08:34 Stroggoz wrote: Here's some major spoiler for what's to come + Show Spoiler + Tyrion executed for treason Jon kills danyres

How are you sure?