On June 19 2019 08:37 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
What the fuck does being white or male have to do with anything lol
Seriously I get it, Americans feel guilty for slavery, near genocide of natives and their fucked up history, so now they are overcompensating.
It's time to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own life and stop living in the past though and treat people as people for the good or bad in them individually.
And more importantly, treat yourself that way, live by your own values, do the best with the situation you're personally in right now. What the hell does it matter if you're yellow black white purple or have seven cocks
So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?
let me answer for him.
There are endless forms of privilege, attractiveness being one far more important than any race for example, also intelligence, indostriousness, emotional stability, creativity and thousands more are you accounting for these in your victim olympics?
yes racism exists, and when you hate on people because they are white you joined their ranks.
On June 20 2019 02:58 Loco wrote:
Baal and I agree that this is the jam of the week
I was youtubing for a similar video but with an antifa getting clubbed with no success but I stumbled into this madness, who would have guessed that afterall it was you the one who had a lot in common with Stefan lol.
"a war against those willing to use violence in the propagation of their hateful ideology... I condition my ideas according to the evidence, the time for arguments is past" Loco Stefan Molyneux.
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jun 20 2019 10:04. Posts 15163
On June 19 2019 08:37 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
What the fuck does being white or male have to do with anything lol
Seriously I get it, Americans feel guilty for slavery, near genocide of natives and their fucked up history, so now they are overcompensating.
It's time to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own life and stop living in the past though and treat people as people for the good or bad in them individually.
And more importantly, treat yourself that way, live by your own values, do the best with the situation you're personally in right now. What the hell does it matter if you're yellow black white purple or have seven cocks
So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?
Oh racism does exist, racism is when you clump people together based on the colour of their skin instead of treating them as individuals based on merit.
And it seems to be on the rise in the US by the virtue signalling simpletons who don't realize they are being racist themselves
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Jun 20 2019 11:16. Posts 15163
On June 19 2019 21:40 Baalim wrote:
so intersectionality taught you that racism, classism and sexism are evil ... so fuck white rich men
No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though. The systems that cause it all are what is really annoying. Rich white males and capitalism is just a bad loop that happens. The nature of it leads to racism, classism, and sexism and racism, classism, and sexism leads to rich white males and capitalism.
See this is what I mean
You don't see how racist you sound?
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blackjacki2 United States. Jun 20 2019 13:02. Posts 2582
I'm no historian but I'd venture a guess that racism, sexism, and classism have existed for thousands of years, even in societies absent of "rich white men" and "capitalism." I'd also venture a guess that issues of trafficking, slavery, gay rights, women's rights, etc. are worse in non-white poor countries than in rich white capitalist countries. But carry on.
No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though.
"Most black women are pretty annoying" would be considered racist, you have double standards because you see the world through a opressed/opressors lens which just make you huge hypocrites and have to cope with the obvious self contradiction by redefining words, "racism isnt prejudice based on skin color, racism is prejudice + power".
Good'ol horseshoe theory, left and right alike playing the identity game and both believe you have the moral imperative that justifies violence because you are saving the world, maniacs.
At least some black women are pretty annoying. There is a loop with poor black males and capitalism that isn't so great. I don't like poor black male culture either but that is what capitalism has continued to institutionalize. I never said racism is prejudice + power but the whole point of the blog post was to explore intersectionality so their is a connection between racism and classism. It's the same playbook and it stems from rich white males under a capitalist system.
You are a maniac for being ok with Nazi's organizing and forming solidarity. We should let ISIS flourish. No need to eradicate them from Raqqa and Mozul and the hearts and minds of the Iraqi, Syrian, and Muslim people worldwide.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jun 20 2019 14:04. Posts 5330
racism has not existed for thousands of years, it's a relatively new invention.
Most rich white men are pretty normal people and not psychopathic, they do bad things out of rationalization which is a common trait they share with all human beings, but also from adjusting to the culture they've been bought up in.
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On June 19 2019 08:37 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
What the fuck does being white or male have to do with anything lol
Seriously I get it, Americans feel guilty for slavery, near genocide of natives and their fucked up history, so now they are overcompensating.
It's time to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own life and stop living in the past though and treat people as people for the good or bad in them individually.
And more importantly, treat yourself that way, live by your own values, do the best with the situation you're personally in right now. What the hell does it matter if you're yellow black white purple or have seven cocks
So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?
let me answer for him.
There are endless forms of privilege, attractiveness being one far more important than any race for example, also intelligence, indostriousness, emotional stability, creativity and thousands more are you accounting for these in your victim olympics?
yes racism exists, and when you hate on people because they are white you joined their ranks.
Yes, I am taking those into account. Tyson Beckford is very privileged. That doesn't mean he doesn't/didn't experience racism. He is also still extremely lucky upon extremely lucky to be that good looking and also discovered.
I don't hate white people or even rich white people. It's just the way the cookie crumbled. My dad is a rich white male. My brother is a rich white male. I used to be a rich white male (I didn't tell you guys I transitioned.... My new name is Rachelle... bad joke....). I know and have known a lot of rich white males. I don't hate these people. These people are complex beings trying to live The Good Life just like anyone else. It's such a complicated topic. You get raised in this "competitive" world and compete and get told this and get told that and you watch Fox News and read this and that it's out of their control but you can't tell me that Dick Cheney is not an asshole and I could sit here for probably literally an hour listing rich white assholes. I could not do that with poor black women. Even though the amount of assholes as a % could be (probably is) the same. But, what is causing assholes?
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jun 20 2019 14:21. Posts 5330
I don't really think Dick Cheney is that different from the norm. I look at the new york times and see paul krugman arguing america's adventures had good intentions. People like to point the finger at cheney because he masterminded the iraq war, and it is easier to push the responsibility onto someone else rather than point the finger at yourself. It would be more accurate to say our society is sociopathic overall and institutionally than just the rich people that run it.
If you look at say the two people that founded google, it is only a few rationalizations between being the global spymaster and being a search engine without advertisements.
To address a few things in your blog:
Occupy Wall Street did accomplish a few things:
For one it exposed a lot people that previously had no part in politics to a lot of different ideas, and they got a taste of political activism.
Secondly, it brought wealth inequality to the discussion table, which was previously a pretty taboo topic in the media, but became something of mainstream discussion in the media afterwards. I think occupy could claim some credit for this.
Every progressive social movement in history has had it's detractors, so to say you don't agree with parts of feminism is not really a criticism. I'm sure there are probably no feminists that wouldn't say the same. There is still some way to go, consider the fact that child rearing is mostly done by women, is an invaluable contribution to the economy, and does not get paid. While financial speculation is bad for the economy, mostly done by men, and can get you paid obscene amounts.
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On June 20 2019 02:58 Loco wrote:
Baal and I agree that this is the jam of the week
I was youtubing for a similar video but with an antifa getting clubbed with no success but I stumbled into this madness, who would have guessed that afterall it was you the one who had a lot in common with Stefan lol.
"a war against those willing to use violence in the propagation of their hateful ideology... I condition my ideas according to the evidence, the time for arguments is past" Loco Stefan Molyneux.
Well, there was no need to guess, I directly quoted him saying it in the JBP thread before I made fun of you for thinking you are more logical than Aristotle.
Then there's the fact that there is no need to guess that fascists and people using dog-whistles for years like Stefan have no real interest in arguments. The real interest is pretending that you care about logic and debate. (Interestingly enough, when I posted the Contrapoints video on fascism over a year ago, you agreed with that! Selective amnesia is fun.)
Guessing is not necessary. You just have to be aware of your history. Only horseshit theory-believing liberals like you are so naive you take people at their word until "oopsie daisy" they are found openly saying they are fascists or being in a bar with a bunch of Neo-Nazis or until they have actually killed people. "Now we have the moral high-ground to retaliate!" Kinda exactly like the genocides you support with your NAP because "the landowners make the rules".
By the way, the Nazi who got knocked out in the video was harassing black people and throwing banana peels at them. Not that it changes anything because you'll stand up for every Nazi who isn't physically hurting anyone in front of you, you just hate violence so much, well, unless people are making money from it destroying their health in a modern gladiator war format, then it's your number one favourite thing in the world.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Actually, this isn't true, I made a mistake. You don't stand up for Nazis, you wouldn't defend that 'victim', simply because you don't stand up for anything. As an internet shitlord without a coherent philosophy, what you do is sit down for what you believe in. The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though.
"Most black women are pretty annoying" would be considered racist, you have double standards because you see the world through a opressed/opressors lens which just make you huge hypocrites and have to cope with the obvious self contradiction by redefining words, "racism isnt prejudice based on skin color, racism is prejudice + power".
Good'ol horseshoe theory, left and right alike playing the identity game and both believe you have the moral imperative that justifies violence because you are saving the world, maniacs.
At least some black women are pretty annoying. There is a loop with poor black males and capitalism that isn't so great. I don't like poor black male culture either but that is what capitalism has continued to institutionalize. I never said racism is prejudice + power but the whole point of the blog post was to explore intersectionality so their is a connection between racism and classism. It's the same playbook and it stems from rich white males under a capitalist system.
You are a maniac for being ok with Nazi's organizing and forming solidarity. We should let ISIS flourish. No need to eradicate them from Raqqa and Mozul and the hearts and minds of the Iraqi, Syrian, and Muslim people worldwide.
I dont want communists organizing and forming solidarity but I dont want people punching you either.
Your argument isn't different than people who think that evil zionist jews control the world, its just racism.
Yes, I am taking those into account. Tyson Beckford is very privileged. That doesn't mean he doesn't/didn't experience racism. He is also still extremely lucky upon extremely lucky to be that good looking and also discovered.
attractiveness has far stronger correlation with economic status than race
I don't hate white people or even rich white people. It's just the way the cookie crumbled. My dad is a rich white male. My brother is a rich white male. I used to be a rich white male (I didn't tell you guys I transitioned.... My new name is Rachelle... bad joke....). I know and have known a lot of rich white males. I don't hate these people. These people are complex beings trying to live The Good Life just like anyone else. It's such a complicated topic. You get raised in this "competitive" world and compete and get told this and get told that and you watch Fox News and read this and that it's out of their control but you can't tell me that Dick Cheney is not an asshole and I could sit here for probably literally an hour listing rich white assholes. I could not do that with poor black women. Even though the amount of assholes as a % could be (probably is) the same. But, what is causing assholes?[/QUOTE]
because there are far more white men than black women in the US, theres also a skewed distribution in notoriety making that even more dramatic, but if you made that same excersize im Congo you would get opposite results.... also as a counter to Dick Cheney I give you Condoleezza Rice.
You are judging people based exclusively because of the color of their skin and gender, that is by definition racist and sexist.
On June 19 2019 17:45 Spitfiree wrote:
I kinda stopped reading at "carnism is the root of all evil"
I said it is a root evil. Dominance and oppression starts with animals. .
I'll stay this upfront - I haven't read any anthropologic research about it but I'm pretty sure that carnism is a natural development of our survival instincts, thus our instincts are evil by default. What that means is even if we fix that, we would be lying to ourselves if we ever believe we're "good" when doing anything since our core wire is evil
You've been pretty brainwashed though, thinking there is a white male privilege. Even in the USA where that's an actual topic statistics completely destroy that thesis. This is a very lazy argument and honestly it just another retarded propaganda by yellow media that managed to get into the roots of western society as something relevant, while there are much larger issues to solve. What Baal said is true, statistically, if your face fits/is close within/to the golden ratio you're much more likely to have a much better life, then again I trust there're no ugly people, just poor people that don't exercise, except in cases where something has gone wrong genetically/health-wise
Well, there was no need to guess, I directly quoted him saying it in the JBP thread before I made fun of you for thinking you are more logical than Aristotle.
wow I never thought you would openly admit you had a lot in common with his ideas. allrighty then...
Then there's the fact that there is no need to guess that fascists and people using dog-whistles for years like Stefan have no real interest in arguments. The real interest is pretending that you care about logic and debate. (Interestingly enough, when I posted the Contrapoints video on fascism over a year ago, you agreed with that! Selective amnesia is fun.)
I like nataly and I agree with many of her points, edgelords from 4 chan take common symbols like the OK hand signal that was being used as meme as the "you look you lose", and then put them in nazi memes, then the alt-right uses the memes and the retarded leftists go apeshit about dogwhistles, then they go after anybody who does that signal who many happen to be doing it in the previous "dont look" meme and get them fired alienating the general public who doesn't know what is going on.
Seriously could you guys be any more retarded? 4chan trolls plays you like a stradivarius and make you look even more hysterical than you already are, I'm glad to see leftists haven't taken the last and more ambitious bait and declared clowns as fascists yet.
Guessing is not necessary. You just have to be aware of your history. Only horseshit theory-believing liberals like you are so naive you take people at their word until "oopsie daisy" they are found openly saying they are fascists or being in a bar with a bunch of Neo-Nazis or until they have actually killed people. "Now we have the moral high-ground to retaliate!" Kinda exactly like the genocides you support with your NAP because "the landowners make the rules".
Yes It would be important to have solid evidence before labeling someone a nazi, especially when idiots like you support violence thowards them.
I dont know what NAP is.
By the way, the Nazi who got knocked out in the video was harassing black people and throwing banana peels at them. Not that it changes anything because you'll stand up for every Nazi who isn't physically hurting anyone in front of you, you just hate violence so much, well, unless people are making money from it destroying their health in a modern gladiator war format, then it's your number one favourite thing in the world.
Wrong, if he is throwing banana peels to people that is harassment and thats not right, however if he wanted to express his ideas about a nation of one race or whatever retarded ideology he has, that should be protected by free speech, at this point I'm not sure if you understand or you just have strawmans as arguments.
Oh yes I do enjoy combat sports thank you lol, just not the initiation of violence to stop political ideas.
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"its not a slippery slope, punch more nazis"
So you for the 100th time you haven't responded, do you support punching islamists? YES or fucking NO, stop dodging, I don't care about "the will of the masses" do YOU support it like you support punching Nazis.
The Baal of less than two years ago makes an appearance at 17:45! "There are no Nazis running around, that's not a thing." Interviewing someone who is literally downplaying actual Neo-Nazism... LMAO.
'tis all a big joke.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 20 2019 18:38 Loco wrote:
Actually, this isn't true, I made a mistake. You don't stand up for Nazis, you wouldn't defend that 'victim', simply because you don't stand up for anything. As an internet shitlord without a coherent philosophy, what you do is sit down for what you believe in.
I stand up for freedom of speech, that is the hill I die on, your tribe in their endless stupidity decided to attack that and turned a big chunk of the neutral population into your enemies, turn everyone into your enemy and surprise surprise, you will lose. Watch as right wing leaders crush in elections because they will promise freedom of speech and when you get your canadian Trump I wonder if you will have the honesty to reflect and think "perhaps we shoudl have picked our battles better".
The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart
haha, imagine middle class Canadian telling that to a Mexican, your sheltered ass would die by just drinking mexican tap water lol
Honestly you're daft with your "stop dodging". First of all you have framed this question deceptively from the beginning, you mention Muslims and Islamists, but you never qualify which kind they are (i.e. radical or not), effectively creating a false equivalency between them as if there were also two kinds of Nazis: "peaceful Nazis" and "Radical Nazis" -- an utterly laughable idea. You have been called out on this by Drone and I but you refuse to acknowledge it. I would expect this deceptive strategy out of a white nationalist or supremacist, what is truly sad is that I know you aren't one, you are just repeating the talking points that they or their useful idiots repeat to serve their interests.
Moving beyond that obvious manipulation, I answered your question (as if it had been properly formulated) twice already. I said I was done discussing this subject with a brick wall, but I'll be nice and repeat the short of it: I said there was no difference between white supremacy and radical islamism and that when they both organize, they have to be stopped. I even answered it again albeit indirectly when I ironically mentioned that I supported your passivity with regards to suicide bombers in this very thread. That's a clear yes -- I am in favor of pre-emptively stopping violence, with violence if necessary. It's amazing how little ability you have for logical deduction. Do you need it drawn up on a board so that you don't ask me again in a week?
"Wrong, if he is throwing banana peels to people that is harassment and thats not right"
Nice equivocating there. Saying "thats not right" is still not standing up for anyone or anything. It doesn't say what you would support doing in that situation. And if you are suddenly drawing the line at harassment to justify physical violence, you are being a hypocrite, and anyone can use the exact same slippery slope fallacy that you always use to justify how immoral you are.
retarded video.mp4
It's only a "retarded video" because it sums up every single argument you've made in two minutes and laughs at how mindless you liberals are.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 20 2019 18:38 Loco wrote:
Actually, this isn't true, I made a mistake. You don't stand up for Nazis, you wouldn't defend that 'victim', simply because you don't stand up for anything. As an internet shitlord without a coherent philosophy, what you do is sit down for what you believe in.
I stand up for freedom of speech, that is the hill I die on, your tribe in their endless stupidity decided to attack that and turned a big chunk of the neutral population into your enemies, turn everyone into your enemy and surprise surprise, you will lose. Watch as right wing leaders crush in elections because they will promise freedom of speech and when you get your canadian Trump I wonder if you will have the honesty to reflect and think "perhaps we shoudl have picked our battles better".
The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart
haha, imagine middle class Canadian telling that to a Mexican, your sheltered ass would die by just drinking mexican tap water lol
That's cute how you added what you think my social class is (you got it wrong), but you didn't include yours, only the fact that you are a Mexican. You play this deceptive identitarian game and critique it on the same page, even mentioning "oppression olympics". How sad it is to be so little self-aware.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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