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spets1   Australia. Aug 10 2020 16:37. Posts 2179

I havnt been following the scene so closely last few years, but interested whether computers dominate in poker now like they do in chess.

Whats the status?

SO reading an article from 2018: There are these computers: Claudico, Libratus, and most recent, Pluribus.

While the first program, Claudico, was summarily beaten by human poker players —“one broke-ass robot,” an observer called it — Libratus has triumphed in a series of one-on-one, or heads-up, matches against some of the best online players in the United States.

Seems like not yet

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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 11 2020 17:41. Posts 6258

AI been better at poker vs humans awhile ago. Lots of bots online winning at a good clip

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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 11 2020 17:42. Posts 6258

Check 2+2 a huge bot ring just been exposed

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drone666   Brasil. Aug 12 2020 09:09. Posts 1825

I played HU vs bots on apps before and they crushed me ( I made like 30k from them exploiting some shit but they fixed ), but I wasn't very good at that time

I'm playing on apps again now and Im sure who are the bots and they are not that good, but I dont know if they are the best bots out there, they were never GTO oriented btw

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 13 2020 07:10. Posts 5330

it's hard to say, for 6max, pluribus very narrowly beat linus. I don't think there was statistical significance. You could see linus having improved a little since then. This was for 100bb, if it was 200bb deep im sure the bot (pluribus) would have a stable edge over any regs, for 6max

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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 14 2020 08:48. Posts 34262

I'm not that convinced about Pluribus now tbh

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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 12 2021 00:07. Posts 6258

If Ai is on Llove level than yea better than 99.999% of human

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Oddeye   Canada. Aug 20 2021 17:00. Posts 5106


  On August 14 2020 07:48 Baalim wrote:
I'm not that convinced about Pluribus now tbh


Why aren't you convinced?

The combination of machine learning/GTO seems pretty hard to beat. Are they missing some aspect like mind games or something else?

I'm sure the edge will be small since the best players are machine in of themselves but still.


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Ryan Neilly   United States. Aug 29 2021 02:01. Posts 1639

Lucy supercomputer gets smarter every second, why wouldn't ai bots eventually do the same?


lostaccount   Canada. Apr 02 2022 18:35. Posts 6258

GL drone, ur an AI

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drone666   Brasil. Apr 08 2022 03:10. Posts 1825


  On April 02 2022 17:35 lostaccount wrote:
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hey drone u still play heads up? what stakes? im trying to get better at heads up. i wouldnt mind a hu battle with u to test how good i am atm. nl200 2-4k hands with a 1k side bet when im ready to battle?


yea I still play, 600+ occasionally 500z, and doesn't make sense to battle 200nl with the rake anywhere, even at 500 it's a rake trap
unless it's like playmoney xbooked, but I can't be bothered with playmoney lol
but hit me up with your discord anyway if you want to talk

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lostaccount   Canada. Apr 16 2022 08:26. Posts 6258

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lostaccount   Canada. Apr 16 2022 08:43. Posts 6258

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lostaccount   Canada. Apr 16 2022 08:44. Posts 6258

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LauraCarter   Australia. Jun 03 2024 08:52. Posts 1

From what I understand, Libratus made quite a splash by beating top players in heads-up matches, and Pluribus has continued that trend. It seems like computers are getting closer to dominating poker, especially in specific formats like heads-up no-limit hold'em. However, in multi-player games, humans still hold a significant edge, probably due to the complex dynamics and the unpredictable nature of human behavior. I also came across some interesting discussions about this on various online casinos. If you're interested in reading more about how AI is influencing gambling, you might want to check out https://pafikalsel.org/ . It provides some detailed insights.

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 03 2024 23:47. Posts 6258

interesting 1st post lol

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