covid vaccine - Page 5

You guys just don't listen, must be mind control. I stopped watching all mainstream entertainment a long time ago I kept telling people that when you watch entertainment you are in a suggestible relaxed state. No one will listen to anything except mainstream somehow makes it true.
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On October 04 2021 04:46 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service. 100% agreed... how can't professional poker players figure out simple odds? also businesses should be free to fire employees, free market baby.

This is retarded you are admitting here that you've been coerced into something nice slave morality well done.

On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service.

not true like they said cigarettes was good for u in the beginning, we know how that went

On October 04 2021 16:20 Mortensen8 wrote: You are basically gambling with unknown side effects for a virus w 99%+ survival rate and I'm the idiot somehow lol NO U

gambling with unknown side effects lol, more than 6 billion covid vaccines have been given so far. Not that there aren't side effects and there might even be some super rare ones that we don't fully understand (in italy, 3 out of 85 million doses might have resulted in some rare blood infection!!), but it's not like Covid kills 1% and leaves the other 99% unharmed.. Fairly serious, long term lung damage is sooooooo much more common than side effects beyond a few days of fever.

I mean, as always, your disapproval is actually validating, but the argument is just ridiculous. You're 'gambling' no matter which option you go for, it's just that not vaccinating is gambling with far worse odds.

Brainwashed. Remember all the covid deaths that were actually cancer, heart attacks etc? now think of what they will say if you get a blood clot besides most of it won't be fatal just sickness its what is required for the messiah to come the nations will be sick and plague etc.

Have you even done any research at all? this is a new 'vaccine' its not a vaccine its gene fuckery we know nothing about long term effects of it. And the long covid bullshit is just fatties who eat junk food and sugar all day and have no vitamin D pls go away with that hyped up media bs and that lung damage is from ventilators DO NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL theyll put you on remdesivir and you're fucked.

Just out of curiosity. Worldometer has the dead count at 4.8 million worldwide right now. Can you give a ballpark estimate of what you think the real number is?

Besides, I've never been remotely afraid of dying of covid lol. I'm a 37 year old guy, in good shape, living in a country with excellent health care. However, I thought the likelihood that I'd get sick and get some lung damage inhibiting my ability to cross country ski at full power next winter was 'within the realm of reasonable possibility'. (This has happened to a decent number of younger people that were in better shape than I am.) I also wanted to contribute to reaching good vaccination numbers, and as a teacher, I've been exposed (pupils in my class testing positive and me being quarantined) on 3 different occasions. Vaccination made me a bit sleepy for a day and my left arm hurt a bit, and now, I can hug people, I don't have to quarantine from future exposure, and my country is free of restrictions. Was a great choice, would do again, every time, with no hesitation.

This thread is a bit refreshing tbh, I'm actually used to being accused of not taking covid seriously enough..

On October 04 2021 20:04 Mortensen8 wrote: Have you even done any research at all? this is a new 'vaccine' its not a vaccine its gene fuckery we know nothing about long term effects of it. And the long covid bullshit is just fatties who eat junk food and sugar all day and have no vitamin D pls go away with that hyped up media bs and that lung damage is from ventilators DO NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL theyll put you on remdesivir and you're fucked.

Someone get this guy a Nobel Prize in Medicine for the "research" he has done.

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On October 04 2021 12:57 sChOuA wrote: so those saying getting the Vaccine is higher EV, where do you draw the line ? you think Children also should get vaccinated and if yes why so ? I'm generally curious.

I think lethality is also in the single digits per million in children, so it's about the same risk than the vaccine so no I don't think its important to vaccinate kids, I think they are are way more resistant to contagion, not just symptoms.

This could change if there were other factors at play for example, if the children kept the virus around possibly being hosts for future mutations then vaccionation at a push to erradicate it could be a thing.

On October 04 2021 13:42 lostaccount wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2021 04:46 Baalim wrote:   On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service. 100% agreed... how can't professional poker players figure out simple odds? also businesses should be free to fire employees, free market baby. Lol free market there is no free market in today’s world maybe one day in the future. They had to mandate the vaccine to force people to take it. U think that’s free market?

I didn't make any claim about we living or not in a free market, I also said a few posts above that I dont support the mandates, what I said was that I support that businesses should be able to fire people if they refuse to be vaccinated, free market.

On October 04 2021 19:56 Mortensen8 wrote: Brainwashed. Remember all the covid deaths that were actually cancer, heart attacks etc? now think of what they will say if you get a blood clot besides most of it won't be fatal just sickness its what is required for the messiah to come the nations will be sick and plague etc.

Perhaps in all your reserach you could also go an look up excess deaths, perhaps you think that data is also fake... look outside of the US, but perhaps you think its a world conspiracy lol.

If you are so afraid of the mRNA vaccine you know you can get a J&J vaccine that uses the traditional method right?

It's only Pfeizer and Moderna that have the mRNA vaccine and all the conspiracy theorists cry about HURR DURR MRNA NOT TESTED NEW TECHNOLOGY (which is also incorrect but let them be) yet they wouldn't go for another type of vaccine even though they exist.

I get that you're scared. That is completely understandable, but in your fear at least don't spread misinformation that would end up hurting other people.

On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine.

nobody picked up on this, it's not a logical thought process because it doesn't consider variance

life is not a game and it can be perfectly rational to use a non-GTO strategy

lowering variance at the cost of reduced EV has its own benefits and usually I wouldn't Daut you so I'm willing to accept this is sort of understood as being partly considered in "life EV" if that's some kind of meta-EV

you can ARGUE either way, maybe for children it's not clear and the risk of the virus and vaccine are too similar, you can argue with adults it's all but proven the side effects are miniscule, but that's my point, variance is a necessary part of the calculus not just EV

On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service.

it is de facto forcing if you can't work or eat or go outside without a vaccine

1) is this only for corona? and can you explain why?
2) what happened to right to privacy and can you explain why we're trashing that here
3) can you explain how you can put on a vaccine and take it off again like shoes or a shirt, or is that just masks oh oops

and leading up my main entire idea is there are people who are ACTUALLY medically recommended (by their doctors) to avoid the vaccine because of allergies, or underlying conditions, and the retarded bans and mandates (from gov't or elsewhere) are going to trample these people's perfectly reasonable rights, just like getting your name on the no-fly-list unjustly in the past 20 years

Obviously people who are medically recommended not to get the vaccine (this is a pretty miniscule number, no?) should get some type of exemption from vaccine requirements. But tbh, I think recommendations not to get the vaccine tend to coincide pretty heavily with 'is at serious risk from covid', so those people probably won't want to be out in a non-vaccinated public anyway. That there are people with legitimate medical reasons not to get the vaccine is just more argument for why all the people who don't have those same legitimate medical reasons should get it.

No compromise no vaccine baal all of this is a scam and obvious why do normalfags not see it? must be retarded.
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On October 05 2021 09:47 Santafairy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. nobody picked up on this, it's not a logical thought process because it doesn't consider variance life is not a game and it can be perfectly rational to use a non-GTO strategy lowering variance at the cost of reduced EV has its own benefits and usually I wouldn't Daut you so I'm willing to accept this is sort of understood as being partly considered in "life EV" if that's some kind of meta-EV you can ARGUE either way, maybe for children it's not clear and the risk of the virus and vaccine are too similar, you can argue with adults it's all but proven the side effects are miniscule, but that's my point, variance is a necessary part of the calculus not just EV   On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service. it is de facto forcing if you can't work or eat or go outside without a vaccine 1) is this only for corona? and can you explain why? 2) what happened to right to privacy and can you explain why we're trashing that here 3) can you explain how you can put on a vaccine and take it off again like shoes or a shirt, or is that just masks oh oops and leading up my main entire idea is there are people who are ACTUALLY medically recommended (by their doctors) to avoid the vaccine because of allergies, or underlying conditions, and the retarded bans and mandates (from gov't or elsewhere) are going to trample these people's perfectly reasonable rights, just like getting your name on the no-fly-list unjustly in the past 20 years

1) Have you heard about the pandemic?
2) Right to privacy is an illusion, you're already forced to do certain things in order to participate in society. That's how it has always been and always will be.
3) You really have a hard time understanding metaphors don't you

Why am i not surprised that the intellectually capable Santa is against vaccines

On October 05 2021 12:23 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2021 09:47 Santafairy wrote:   On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. nobody picked up on this, it's not a logical thought process because it doesn't consider variance life is not a game and it can be perfectly rational to use a non-GTO strategy lowering variance at the cost of reduced EV has its own benefits and usually I wouldn't Daut you so I'm willing to accept this is sort of understood as being partly considered in "life EV" if that's some kind of meta-EV you can ARGUE either way, maybe for children it's not clear and the risk of the virus and vaccine are too similar, you can argue with adults it's all but proven the side effects are miniscule, but that's my point, variance is a necessary part of the calculus not just EV   On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service. it is de facto forcing if you can't work or eat or go outside without a vaccine 1) is this only for corona? and can you explain why? 2) what happened to right to privacy and can you explain why we're trashing that here 3) can you explain how you can put on a vaccine and take it off again like shoes or a shirt, or is that just masks oh oops and leading up my main entire idea is there are people who are ACTUALLY medically recommended (by their doctors) to avoid the vaccine because of allergies, or underlying conditions, and the retarded bans and mandates (from gov't or elsewhere) are going to trample these people's perfectly reasonable rights, just like getting your name on the no-fly-list unjustly in the past 20 years 1) Have you heard about the pandemic? 2) Right to privacy is an illusion, you're already forced to do certain things in order to participate in society. That's how it has always been and always will be. 3) You really have a hard time understanding metaphors don't you Why am i not surprised that the intellectually capable Santa is against vaccines

I'm not against vaccines, wasn't talking to you, and you're a retard