covid vaccine - Page 6

On October 05 2021 10:26 Mortensen8 wrote: No compromise no vaccine baal all of this is a scam and obvious why do normalfags not see it? must be retarded. https://www.bitchute.com/video/GPRndnVqehF3/ https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/3...ou-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/

it's actually true, they are all brainwashed due to like some sort of weird mental weakness, or they are retarded lol

it doesn't help to actually tell them but it's def true for like 90% of people
it's impossible to honestly communicate with most of these people they don't care about integrity they aren't trying to learn and their eyes aren't open they are only looking to validate the beliefs they already have. but you already know this of course. and everyone else who sees what is happening also knows lol. it's pretty wild actually.

anyways I don't care, can't spend all my time trying to get people who don't want to see to genuinely (earnestly, genuinely) consider what I am saying


like I said, I'll probably end up in the camps, and when that happens everyone can just go ahead and continue to justify it to themselves.

Never understood why this site was so rife with people going full-retard on the conspiracy theories. Imagine thinking you know better than critical care doctors at treating people with severe COVID because of shit you read on the internet.

In March 2020 it was reported that hospitals in Spain and Italy were over-flowing with patients, but this happens every flu season.

For comparison, the IFR of seasonal influenza, against which prior immunity and vaccines exist, is about 0.05% to 0.1%

Both quotes from Mortensen's own source. Simultaneously posting that COVID is fine because it has a 99%+ survival rate while also admitting that the flu with a 99.9%+ survival rate consistently brings hospitals beyond capacity. Your own sources list the IFR of COVID as 5-10x higher than the Flu.

On October 05 2021 06:28 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2021 13:42 lostaccount wrote:   On October 04 2021 04:46 Baalim wrote:   On October 03 2021 18:48 Daut wrote: This is pretty simple. Getting the vaccine is higher life EV than not getting the vaccine. Forcing people to get the vaccine is authoritarian. If you don't get it you're pretty fucking stupid. But that should still be your choice. But private businesses also have the right to refuse service to unvaccinated -- no shoes, no shirt, no service. 100% agreed... how can't professional poker players figure out simple odds? also businesses should be free to fire employees, free market baby. Lol free market there is no free market in today’s world maybe one day in the future. They had to mandate the vaccine to force people to take it. U think that’s free market? I didn't make any claim about we living or not in a free market, I also said a few posts above that I dont support the mandates, what I said was that I support that businesses should be able to fire people if they refuse to be vaccinated, free market.

sure most business wouldnt even care about vaccines if it wasnt for our government mandating it. so no free market

On October 05 2021 21:19 blackjacki2 wrote: Never understood why this site was so rife with people going full-retard on the conspiracy theories. Imagine thinking you know better than critical care doctors at treating people with severe COVID because of shit you read on the internet. Show nested quote + In March 2020 it was reported that hospitals in Spain and Italy were over-flowing with patients, but this happens every flu season.   For comparison, the IFR of seasonal influenza, against which prior immunity and vaccines exist, is about 0.05% to 0.1% Both quotes from Mortensen's own source. Simultaneously posting that COVID is fine because it has a 99%+ survival rate while also admitting that the flu with a 99.9%+ survival rate consistently brings hospitals beyond capacity. Your own sources list the IFR of COVID as 5-10x higher than the Flu.

Yea thats not worth the tyranny or crashing the economy retard! if you are too old or too fat to survive covid sometimes you have to accept death if I was an old or fat fuck I wouldn't sacrifice the rest of society just because we might not have enough hospital beds. Whatever last post ever don't give a fuck anymore this is too tilting. I shouldn't even be trying to reason with you the fucking flu virtually disappeared and no one found it suspicious its a fucking scam. Those numbers are inflated because everything was labeled covid as well pay attention.

Should maybe just vaccinate so it stops being such a problem and letting society fully reopen without lots of people getting sick and hospitalized if you are worried about the economy.

Like, I actually do think a lot of people have overblown how dangerous covid is - seeing how I've also been arguing with people who think it's as bad as the spanish flu was. If 'covid isn't as dangerous as some people claim' was your argument, that'd be fairly reasonable. However, as guilty as some people are in overblowing the danger of covid, you're tenfold times more guilty of overblowing the danger of the vaccine. Covid has a low probability of seriously harming a healthy non-old person. Vaccines have a miniscule probability of doing the same thing.

I just don't get what you guys think the aim of the vaccine is. It's 'something sinister'- but what? Is it all a ploy from big pharma to boost their wealth and power, or is it like, mind control to further the brainwashing of the sheeple? And all western governments are unified in these particular efforts? When Covid was new, travis was posting on tl about how it was connected to 5g and that covid was going to change the lives of everyone negatively and that in one year, everyone would know someone who had died from covid. (I've actually had a pretty great year and a half and in Norway I don't even know anyone who knows anyone who died.) Now, it's the vaccine that is the problem. What I do get is that you guys stop posting because 'it's too tiring' - cause it must be really exhausting to inhabit your realities.

They knew they were on their way out young people are very sceptical of allopathic medicine and created now the people who took it might need boosters for the rest of their lives to survive to not get ADE is one theory. I don't care what it is but everything is blatant it seems like this is done intentionally and people won't go along with this agenda so maybe its for some other purpose perhaps to usher in this antichrist and then all the christians willingly are going to commit mass suicide watch the christians very carefully they are growing in number everyones programming from childhood is kicking in, its a trap always was (this is just my theory that is subject to change) or its just the good old divide and conquer sometimes its not just about money (never was all an illsusion) anyway they are going next level.

On October 05 2021 22:17 Liquid`Drone wrote: When Covid was new, travis was posting on tl about how it was connected to 5g and that covid was going to change the lives of everyone negatively and that in one year, everyone would know someone who had died from covid. (I've actually had a pretty great year and a half and in Norway I don't even know anyone who knows anyone who died.) Now, it's the vaccine that is the problem. What I do get is that you guys stop posting because 'it's too tiring' - cause it must be really exhausting to inhabit your realities.

It sounds like you aren't even totally sure what it was I said, so maybe you shouldn't be trying to quote me or paraphase me or whatever? right? seems like common sense and respectful treatment of another person right?

Oh, and the point is surely complicated, because the world is chaotic. But there are clear agendas that have been made known, such as the Great Reset... it's not really deniable because they literally tell us, this is fact not opinion


or in simpler terms, perhaps the most relevant point for everyday people - the point is authoritarianism. extreme authoritarianism using technology to ensure compliance.

On October 05 2021 22:35 Mortensen8 wrote: They knew they were on their way out young people are very sceptical of allopathic medicine and created now the people who took it might need boosters for the rest of their lives to survive to not get ADE is one theory. I don't care what it is but everything is blatant it seems like this is done intentionally and people won't go along with this agenda so maybe its for some other purpose perhaps to usher in this antichrist and then all the christians willingly are going to commit mass suicide watch the christians very carefully they are growing in number everyones programming from childhood is kicking in, its a trap always was (this is just my theory that is subject to change) or its just the good old divide and conquer sometimes its not just about money (never was all an illsusion) anyway they are going next level.

Yikes.

Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you say about COVID not being worth tyranny or crashing the economy. That doesn't mean you should go full-retard and argue that COVID isn't real and it's all a conspiracy just because some people on the internet are saying that.

Brah just google kovid kapoor its all out there. Did you know about clade x? 666 days before WHO declared this a pandemic a simulation... Did you know about event 201? seems like yall been sleeping.

On October 05 2021 10:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: Obviously people who are medically recommended not to get the vaccine (this is a pretty miniscule number, no?) should get some type of exemption from vaccine requirements. But tbh, I think recommendations not to get the vaccine tend to coincide pretty heavily with 'is at serious risk from covid', so those people probably won't want to be out in a non-vaccinated public anyway. That there are people with legitimate medical reasons not to get the vaccine is just more argument for why all the people who don't have those same legitimate medical reasons should get it.

My dad nearly died and spent 1 month in the ICU because of a rare autoimmune disease early 2020, now he is on immuno-supressors and his immunologist doctor told him to take the vaccine as soon as available, so if someone with a rare autoimmune sindrome on immunosupressors can take the vaccine my guess is that those "medical exceptions" are beyond rare fwiw.

On October 05 2021 09:47 Santafairy wrote: nobody picked up on this, it's not a logical thought process because it doesn't consider variance life is not a game and it can be perfectly rational to use a non-GTO strategy lowering variance at the cost of reduced EV has its own benefits and usually I wouldn't Daut you so I'm willing to accept this is sort of understood as being partly considered in "life EV" if that's some kind of meta-EV you can ARGUE either way, maybe for children it's not clear and the risk of the virus and vaccine are too similar, you can argue with adults it's all but proven the side effects are miniscule, but that's my point, variance is a necessary part of the calculus not just EV [QUOTE] Oh yes please... school Daut of all people about statistical math lol. I assume you are equating unknown future side-effects as "variance" (it isn't), but for the 100th time, get the fucking J&J vaccine which uses a nearly century old method with very known effects, unlike COVID which we also have 0 data on long-term effects. [quote] it is de facto forcing if you can't work or eat or go outside without a vaccine 1) is this only for corona? and can you explain why? 2) what happened to right to privacy and can you explain why we're trashing that here 3) can you explain how you can put on a vaccine and take it off again like shoes or a shirt, or is that just masks oh oops and leading up my main entire idea is there are people who are ACTUALLY medically recommended (by their doctors) to avoid the vaccine because of allergies, or underlying conditions, and the retarded bans and mandates (from gov't or elsewhere) are going to trample these people's perfectly reasonable rights, just like getting your name on the no-fly-list unjustly in the past 20 years

It's forcing if the state mandates it, if a business chooses it its not, nobody is forcing you to wear format attire becaue a fancy restaurant has it as a rule, don't want to dress up? don't go to the restaurant.

1) No other virus has killed millions this year, if other deadly viruses were on a pandemic killing millions it probably would extend to those too.
2) Businesses ask for IDs to check age before selling alcohol, no different than ask for vaccination status if you want to keep your age or your vaccination status private go somewhere else.
3) what?

If somebody has a medical excemption to get the vaccine then sure show me the Doctors order and I'll accept you in my imaginary business.

On October 05 2021 23:02 Mortensen8 wrote: Brah just google kovid kapoor its all out there. Did you know about clade x? 666 days before WHO declared this a pandemic a simulation... Did you know about event 201? seems like yall been sleeping.

Rhaegar is this you?

Lmao Kyrie Irving unvaccinated causing problems for the Nets.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/3...possibility-miss-home-games-practices

Again I don't have a strong opinion on this but generally I have a thesis on the NBA that Kyrie is a total dumbass and I try to short him whenever I can. I remember when he got signed by Boston he kept using big fancy words when it wasn't appropriate to do so and he should have just used a normal word and also kept trying to sound profound all the time and I knew he was a total dumbass lol.

That being said a lot of dumb liberals are vaxxers so idk.

Lol hiems

I am not vaccinated. I am dragging my feet as a protest. From the beginning the lockdowns were power overreaches and I am uninterested in complying to further direction. I have seen how my friends running businesses (livelihoods) have been yanked around by bureaucrats, news business, and hypochondriacs. They suffered for no reason and continue to suffer. Who hasn't suffered? Amazon, Apple, big media companies, of course politicians, etc. People's immense fear of death has been co-opted to massively change society for the worse.

I was initially depressed by this. Now I accept that the society I took for granted is gone. Even if I get vaccinated (which I may do someday) and others like me vaccinate, there will never be 100% compliance. So there will never be a "reopening" or a return "to normal." There will always be some other thing we have to comply to first. Like a carrot dangled in front of us. People will be scanning their vaccine passports for the rest of eternity in places that implement them. I had no problem wearing masks, or respecting social distancing rules, or being empathetic to people's fear of the virus. Now though? People who are concerned about covid are vaccinated. That should have been the end of it. Of course, there will be no end to this anytime soon. Moving goalposts.

I hope I am wrong. I truly do hope that I am delusional and that I have just been influenced by the wrong people and ideas. I would consider that a win because it would mean I'm living in a better world than I imagine I live in. I do think it's possible.

To conclude I am sure the vaccine is fine. I do not believe it is evil, or that it "5Gz you/muh DNAz/nanochips/etc." I just don't like feeling forced to do something. And there is definitely a lot of pressure to comply. Call it oppositional defiance. COVID has always felt like a power grab and one that is continuing. Eventually people need to stop complying and move on.

On October 06 2021 07:17 vasoline73 wrote: I am not vaccinated. I am dragging my feet as a protest. From the beginning the lockdowns were power overreaches and I am uninterested in complying to further direction. I have seen how my friends running businesses (livelihoods) have been yanked around by bureaucrats, news business, and hypochondriacs. They suffered for no reason and continue to suffer. Who hasn't suffered? Amazon, Apple, big media companies, of course politicians, etc. People's immense fear of death has been co-opted to massively change society for the worse. I was initially depressed by this. Now I accept that the society I took for granted is gone. Even if I get vaccinated (which I may do someday) and others like me vaccinate, there will never be 100% compliance. So there will never be a "reopening" or a return "to normal." There will always be some other thing we have to comply to first. Like a carrot dangled in front of us. People will be scanning their vaccine passports for the rest of eternity in places that implement them. I had no problem wearing masks, or respecting social distancing rules, or being empathetic to people's fear of the virus. Now though? People who are concerned about covid are vaccinated. That should have been the end of it. Of course, there will be no end to this anytime soon. Moving goalposts. I hope I am wrong. I truly do hope that I am delusional and that I have just been influenced by the wrong people and ideas. I would consider that a win because it would mean I'm living in a better world than I imagine I live in. I do think it's possible. To conclude I am sure the vaccine is fine. I do not believe it is evil, or that it "5Gz you/muh DNAz/nanochips/etc." I just don't like feeling forced to do something. And there is definitely a lot of pressure to comply. Call it oppositional defiance. COVID has always felt like a power grab and one that is continuing. Eventually people need to stop complying and move on.

amen brotha ill get vaccinated when i have 2 kids, not!!!

There seem to be a lot of experts in the chat, I have one question which is the only reason I haven't been vaccinated.

What is the point of getting it if you are healthy, not at risk, and it doesn't stop you from spreading the virus? Genuine question, not trolling just looking for education.

On October 06 2021 08:23 CrownRoyal wrote: There seem to be a lot of experts in the chat, I have one question which is the only reason I haven't been vaccinated. What is the point of getting it if you are healthy, not at risk, and it doesn't stop you from spreading the virus? Genuine question, not trolling just looking for education.

Because it significantly reduces the chance of spreading it by over 90%?

On October 06 2021 10:58 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2021 08:23 CrownRoyal wrote: There seem to be a lot of experts in the chat, I have one question which is the only reason I haven't been vaccinated. What is the point of getting it if you are healthy, not at risk, and it doesn't stop you from spreading the virus? Genuine question, not trolling just looking for education. Because it significantly reduces the chance of spreading it by over 90%?

can you reference some study to this ? personally i think 90% is way too high.

On October 06 2021 07:17 vasoline73 wrote: I am not vaccinated. I am dragging my feet as a protest. From the beginning the lockdowns were power overreaches and I am uninterested in complying to further direction. I have seen how my friends running businesses (livelihoods) have been yanked around by bureaucrats, news business, and hypochondriacs. They suffered for no reason and continue to suffer. Who hasn't suffered? Amazon, Apple, big media companies, of course politicians, etc. People's immense fear of death has been co-opted to massively change society for the worse. I was initially depressed by this. Now I accept that the society I took for granted is gone. Even if I get vaccinated (which I may do someday) and others like me vaccinate, there will never be 100% compliance. So there will never be a "reopening" or a return "to normal." There will always be some other thing we have to comply to first. Like a carrot dangled in front of us. People will be scanning their vaccine passports for the rest of eternity in places that implement them. I had no problem wearing masks, or respecting social distancing rules, or being empathetic to people's fear of the virus. Now though? People who are concerned about covid are vaccinated. That should have been the end of it. Of course, there will be no end to this anytime soon. Moving goalposts. I hope I am wrong. I truly do hope that I am delusional and that I have just been influenced by the wrong people and ideas. I would consider that a win because it would mean I'm living in a better world than I imagine I live in. I do think it's possible. To conclude I am sure the vaccine is fine. I do not believe it is evil, or that it "5Gz you/muh DNAz/nanochips/etc." I just don't like feeling forced to do something. And there is definitely a lot of pressure to comply. Call it oppositional defiance. COVID has always felt like a power grab and one that is continuing. Eventually people need to stop complying and move on.

I mean, I live in a country where the compliance was sufficiently high for us to reopen and return to normal. It might be that you yourself and everyone thinking like you end up proving yourself correct though.. Anyway, to me, it seems weird to complain about a problem when you are that problem.