covid vaccine

how many took it and how many havent?

I asked them to inject the shot into my urethra

Why won't you take it?

you can't have much of a useful discussion about this

no, i don't intend to take it. there's like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol. most of the "good reasons" to take the vaccine are essentially ignorant bullying.

will I likely have to make gigantic sacrifices to my freedom in the near future? probably. maybe they'll kill me. or maybe I'll just go in the camp for a while first.

most people have no idea what is going on they are too retarded and brainwashed



they also aren't even vaccines btw. why are we still calling them that? they don't use viral matter and they don't confer any sort of immunity.

"like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol"

list 3 good reasons

On September 29 2021 19:54 asdf2000 wrote: you can't have much of a useful discussion about this no, i don't intend to take it. there's like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol. most of the "good reasons" to take the vaccine are essentially ignorant bullying. will I likely have to make gigantic sacrifices to my freedom in the near future? probably. maybe they'll kill me. or maybe I'll just go in the camp for a while first. most people have no idea what is going on they are too retarded and brainwashed they also aren't even vaccines btw. why are we still calling them that? they don't use viral matter and they don't confer any sort of immunity.

I'm yet to hear a 'good reason' of why the vaccine is a bad decision and I've had this talk a lot, up to the point where I've changed people's minds to go and get it.

Doesn't matter what you call them, plus there are plenty of vaccines that don't cause permanent immunity. The statistical data clearly shows they make a huge difference, anything else is useless to the conversation.

Also doubt you'll get any more restrictions compared to what we have now for non-vaccinated people unless in a year the people that refuse to take the vaccine help create an even deadlier mutation that leaves governments no choice.

And don't get me wrong, I'm completely fine with people that refuse to take it, it's a personal choice and the vaccine does come with risks, even if they are quite insignificant and if you have to live by them you'd probably be living a life full of fear of whether someone might stab you while on a walk or a car might hit you while passing through the street.

I don't understand that massive bans across all countries of medical workers that refuse to take it though. They essentially fuck a lot of medical staff that CANNOT take it, which is pretty fucking stupid.

Anyway please, as RikD said - do list 3 good reasons of why you shouldn't take it

On September 29 2021 20:29 RiKD wrote: "like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol" list 3 good reasons

1.)standing up for bodily autonomy
2.)standing up for the fact that my vaccination status isn't really anyone else's business
3.)standing up against tyranny (how do people not see that is what the whole world is moving towards?)
3.)the fact that this is a new (and frankly retardedly dangerous) technology. It skipped proper testing, and even then it would still be dangerous as fuck.
3.)the fact that the vaccine DOESN'T PREVENT TRANSMISSION nor does it EVEN CLAIM TO. In fact, evidence points to the opposite.
3.)the fact that more people are dying than ever in the most vaccinated countries
3.)the fact that the companies who make these vaccines are companies with insanely horrible track records for releasing products that didn't work, did other than what was advertised, or harmed people.
3.)the fact that these horrible companies are given total immunity from liability i mean it's insanely huge amounts of free money for them, they'd piss in the vials if they didn't have anything else lined up
3.)the fact that there are other, better treatments, and those treatments are being repressed
3.)the fact that contaminants and nasty shit within the vaccine is being found in labs all around the world

this is just getting started, actually. but the more and more claims I make the more people will find things to pick at and I don't have all day to spend on pointless arguments

On September 30 2021 01:55 lostaccount wrote: Haha I totally agree with u asdf, the mass is blind to thinking our government is doing this for public health in reality it’s for total population control

or corporate donor profit like anything else...

On September 30 2021 01:22 asdf2000 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 29 2021 20:29 RiKD wrote: "like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol" list 3 good reasons 1.)standing up for bodily autonomy 2.)standing up for the fact that my vaccination status isn't really anyone else's business 3.)standing up against tyranny (how do people not see that is what the whole world is moving towards?) 3.)the fact that this is a new (and frankly retardedly dangerous) technology. It skipped proper testing, and even then it would still be dangerous as fuck. 3.)the fact that the vaccine DOESN'T PREVENT TRANSMISSION nor does it EVEN CLAIM TO. In fact, evidence points to the opposite. 3.)the fact that more people are dying than ever in the most vaccinated countries 3.)the fact that the companies who make these vaccines are companies with insanely horrible track records for releasing products that didn't work, did other than what was advertised, or harmed people. 3.)the fact that these horrible companies are given total immunity from liability i mean it's insanely huge amounts of free money for them, they'd piss in the vials if they didn't have anything else lined up 3.)the fact that there are other, better treatments, and those treatments are being repressed 3.)the fact that contaminants and nasty shit within the vaccine is being found in labs all around the world this is just getting started, actually. but the more and more claims I make the more people will find things to pick at and I don't have all day to spend on pointless arguments

I won't nit pick then.

I am curious what the better treatments are though?

From your posts I gather that you are a physically healthy 30 something. I don't hate you for not getting vaccinated.

I am almost 40 and not physically healthy and live with my parents who are pushing 70 and have health issues. 'Tis it not a no brainer for me to get vaccinated? For my parents to get vaccinated?

Apart from all this sovereignty stuff...

From a scientific perspective why is it -ev?

I know lostaccount is mostly a next level troll account but that question is open to anyone.

On September 29 2021 21:01 Spitfiree wrote:[/B The statistical data clearly shows they make a huge difference, anything else is useless to the conversation.

No it doesn't - you can't prove a definitive link because studies have been so underpowered, which is one of the problems when you want to make people trust it. And you can even make the case that vaccines make the situation worse, as has been seen in many countries with no covid pandemic (no natural immunity) prior to the vaccination period - but I won't argue that, since correlation is no causation. But that works both ways.

On September 30 2021 02:46 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2021 01:22 asdf2000 wrote:   On September 29 2021 20:29 RiKD wrote: "like a ton of good reasons not to take it lol" list 3 good reasons 1.)standing up for bodily autonomy 2.)standing up for the fact that my vaccination status isn't really anyone else's business 3.)standing up against tyranny (how do people not see that is what the whole world is moving towards?) 3.)the fact that this is a new (and frankly retardedly dangerous) technology. It skipped proper testing, and even then it would still be dangerous as fuck. 3.)the fact that the vaccine DOESN'T PREVENT TRANSMISSION nor does it EVEN CLAIM TO. In fact, evidence points to the opposite. 3.)the fact that more people are dying than ever in the most vaccinated countries 3.)the fact that the companies who make these vaccines are companies with insanely horrible track records for releasing products that didn't work, did other than what was advertised, or harmed people. 3.)the fact that these horrible companies are given total immunity from liability i mean it's insanely huge amounts of free money for them, they'd piss in the vials if they didn't have anything else lined up 3.)the fact that there are other, better treatments, and those treatments are being repressed 3.)the fact that contaminants and nasty shit within the vaccine is being found in labs all around the world this is just getting started, actually. but the more and more claims I make the more people will find things to pick at and I don't have all day to spend on pointless arguments I won't nit pick then. I am curious what the better treatments are though?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?507035-1/medical-response-covid-19

Start at 28 minutes.

Or if obvious sincere emotion doesn't move you, here are actual studies and research:
https://ivmmeta.com/#top



ivermectin as a treatment has been ridiculed by the media and by various health organizations and political bodies, it's a disgusting conspiracy because they know exactly what they are doing - they are costing lives so as to maximize the effectiveness of this campaign they are waging

honestly it's completely ridiculous people believe these shitheads about anything at this point

Norway has just reopened as a consequence of us having really high vaccination numbers, and because everyone in risk groups are vaccinated, hardly anyone is getting really sick anymore - even though infection numbers are still reasonably high, hospitalization and deaths are really low.

I notice a really strong correlation between vaccination rates and death/hospitalization rate per infection when looking at different countries. This to me is very strong evidence that the vaccines work - even if their duration is significantly shorter than what granted by MMR vaccines, they're more similar to flu shots.

I'm double vaccinated, one pfizer and one moderna, and I'll take booster shots whenever that is recommended. I don't understand the hesitation one bit, and genuinely think that people who are hesitant to vaccinate are generally untrustworthy because the sources that convinced them not to vaccinate have virtually always also convinced them of other stuff that is quite frankly, ridiculously wrong.

Like when you wrote '3.)the fact that more people are dying than ever in the most vaccinated countries', that's just flat out wrong. Norway is one of the most vaccinated countries, and our death rate is now really low, and it has been ever since the vulnerable groups were vaccinated.

Before May 2021 (this is around where all the vulnerable groups were vaccinated), we had 110k cases and 750 deaths. Since May 2021, we've had another 80k cases, but only 100 deaths. This is not due to a different testing regime. It's because the vaccines make people become much, much less sick than they used to get.

While there might be reasons why vaccinating, for an individual, is kind of a wash (not in a risk group, being somewhat of a recluse anyway), I'm really happy to live in a country with high vaccination rates, and I'd much rather contribute to that than leech off that.

Yes, I entirely reject the possibility that the Norwegian government is involved in some grand conspiracy to hide the 'real covid numbers to justify oppressing the population and making the vaccine seem better' or whatever the fuck you're arguing. They literally just reopened society last weekend (no more restrictions - meaning that the 'wanting to control or oppress the population' angle is really stupid), and cite high vaccination rates as part of the reason for the reopening being possible and responsible.

Why would a government wanting to control its population or move towards tyranny be championing politics that remove their justification for having more control measures? (Vaccination is that policy - the control measures were removed because the vaccination program has been a big success.)