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On April 28 2022 10:52 CurbStomp2 wrote: How did you quit alcohol when your life obviously sucks? I'd like to save money and move to another country for a while, but all my money goes to fast food and alcohol. I tried AA, but I find it ridiculous because of the higher power bullshit.

I don't really like to diagnose alcoholism but if your biggest concern with alcohol is that it costs too much money you might not be desperate enough to quit.

I was desperate. I wanted to live. So, I tried AA. Luckily, I found a group of good people. The higher power bullshit is ridiculous. I don't go to AA that often anymore but I don't know what I would have done without it at the start.

On April 28 2022 12:13 lostaccount wrote: 31k is a lot of money, just buy some Tesla stocks or silver n gold bullion. Well I don’t even spend that much money anymore. I got all the material things I need san some car toys. Wtf u do with ur money? Now all I need is gas insurance some food n drinks, a little new clothes and I’m good. Maybe I’ll try clubbing once to see if I like it but honestly I don’t even think I like clubbing anymore. Bruh I spend like 4-6 hours in nature now. Nice walks, hit some golf balls which is at most 15-20$ for 3 hours or entertainment.

What happened to you?

You prefer silver and gold over BTC now?

On April 28 2022 14:52 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2022 06:19 hiems wrote: Lol u don't need a fancy solver to beat 25nl genius. Notice wit ur communist activities such as playing guitar u do everything in ur power 2 make it work..."all I needZ is a student guitar" Yet in poker all of the sudden u start talking about all this shit u don't need and don't want to come up with any ways to work around the problem lol wat a joke. I just assumed you need to study solvers to beat 200 NL so why wouldn't I start off the right way?

explain what u mean exactly by "need to study the solvers" because I have no idea what u r talking about.

you dont even have a preflop strategy right now...why dont you focus on that? you realize thats the most important part of your game...? ru going to get a multi terrabyte ram computer to run solves yourself for those? lol...

everytime i hear you talk about poker you go into this loop of talkin about solvers and stuff just like you talk about philosophy and other bs its just a bunch of nonsense i hope you realize that.

On April 28 2022 15:11 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2022 14:52 RiKD wrote:   On April 28 2022 06:19 hiems wrote: Lol u don't need a fancy solver to beat 25nl genius. Notice wit ur communist activities such as playing guitar u do everything in ur power 2 make it work..."all I needZ is a student guitar" Yet in poker all of the sudden u start talking about all this shit u don't need and don't want to come up with any ways to work around the problem lol wat a joke. I just assumed you need to study solvers to beat 200 NL so why wouldn't I start off the right way? explain what u mean exactly by "need to study the solvers" because I have no idea what u r talking about. you dont even have a preflop strategy right now...why dont you focus on that? you realize thats the most important part of your game...? ru going to get a multi terrabyte ram computer to run solves yourself for those? lol... everytime i hear you talk about poker you go into this loop of talkin about solvers and stuff just like you talk about philosophy and other bs its just a bunch of nonsense i hope you realize that.

wat about mass data/population tendencies?

also what about mental game? last i checked that is what was the downfall of your career.

like 90% of brian rast game is focus on what he is good at instead of solvers. he is a knife fighter, not a chart reader and he is one of the most successful pros albeit in live mtt and mix games.

maybe instead of just talking about solvers and doing nothing it is better to just jump into 25nl or something get your feet wet and start from there... who would have thought...

On April 28 2022 14:56 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2022 12:13 lostaccount wrote: 31k is a lot of money, just buy some Tesla stocks or silver n gold bullion. Well I don’t even spend that much money anymore. I got all the material things I need san some car toys. Wtf u do with ur money? Now all I need is gas insurance some food n drinks, a little new clothes and I’m good. Maybe I’ll try clubbing once to see if I like it but honestly I don’t even think I like clubbing anymore. Bruh I spend like 4-6 hours in nature now. Nice walks, hit some golf balls which is at most 15-20$ for 3 hours or entertainment. What happened to you? You prefer silver and gold over BTC now?

I perfer freedom the most

With gold n silver there is less risk, btc who knows what happen. All tech eventually becomes obsolete. Silver n gold is gods currency. U can get some crypto too to diversify.

im considering building a desktop finally. its not cheap.

gto+ is a good program but I prefer PIO. PiO came out with PiO 2 which further reduces solvetime.

PIO Pro maxes out at 16 cores, PIO Edge allows up to 64 cores I think.

cores = solver speed, ram = max size of the game tree.

build 1 for me is ryzen 5950x which is 16 core processor that maxes out at 128gb ram.
build 2 is threadripper 3960x which is 24 core processor that maxes out at 256gb ram.

build 1 is ~ 2500 bucks
build 2 is ~4000-4500 bucks depending on if you get your processor / motherboard used.

im considering getting build 2 and just leaving it on pio pro not utilizing 8 cores and leaving it at 128gb ram. this saves ~1k on pio edge license as well as 564 dollars on 4x32 ram....but leaves options to upgrade as see fit whether its upgrade ram or utilize all cores. this route with used processor/motherboard comes out to 3587 after paying guy to build it for me. possible to reduce it a bit by buying worse graphics card.

^ but ultimately u dont need all of this...its just vanity post.

On April 28 2022 06:19 hiems wrote: Lol u don't need a fancy solver to beat 25nl genius. Notice wit ur communist activities such as playing guitar u do everything in ur power 2 make it work..."all I needZ is a student guitar" Yet in poker all of the sudden u start talking about all this shit u don't need and don't want to come up with any ways to work around the problem lol wat a joke.

Of course, I don't need a solver to beat 25 NL or maybe I do these days. Like most players back in my day I was a hand reader, game flow guy. I'd figure out how to beat each opponent and do that. It was supplemented with a lot of work on that hold 'em app I don't even remember what it's called but you could choose hand ranges and see equities and Pro Poker Tools for PLO. If I would have had solvers back then I would have been all over them but they didn't exist.

There is a difference between buying a beginner guitar that fits me well and deciding to play poker tired after work. I saw on wikipedia that LLinusLLove did a thing where he started at micros and built up to 100 NL. That's actually what I probably should do but there is another camp that would say just save some money and take shots at 100 NL.

So, the ideal standard would be 5ptbb/100 @ 200 NL 30k hands / month = $72,000

I have beat that in my past but I realize the landscape is a lot different from the poker boom. Which is why I want to study solvers as soon as possible.

Realistically, if I am working I play 10,000 hands in a month maybe? And I'll be playing worse.

2 ptbb/100 @ 25 NL is literally a penny a hand. I play 10k hands in a month = $100

That is getting me no where.

What's worse if rake is high or people are studying solvers @ 25 NL (like you) my rusty ass may not even be making 2ptbb/100.

Let's say I am 1ptbb/100 @ 100 NL which I probably am not at this point.

1ptbb/100 @ 100 NL is literally 2 pennies a hand. I play 10k hands in a month and make $200.

5 ptbb/100 @ 100 NL @ 360,000 hands in a year I'm only making $36,000. That's barely more than I am making now although I think I would rather play poker if the money is even but I am not sure on that.

How many hands can people reasonably play in an hour these days?

400?

5ptbb/100 @ 200 NL would be 20c / hand = $80/hr I would definitely take that

1ptbb/100 @ 100 NL would be 2 pennies / hand = $8/hr I obviously would not take that

So, to get where I want to get I'm going to need solvers.

I don't want to be Phil Ivey anymore. I want to be just some random guy that studies solvers and crushes online NLHE pseudonymously.

It's like in 2006 not watching a Green Plastic video. No one needed CardRunners but little shit he was teaching dramatically increases winrates and bankrolls.


It's like when I tried an honest job and playing poker at the same time and lost some money tjbentham would berate me every time we chatted that I should be playing higher stakes. It's literally burning money.

I'm still figuring out all the startup costs. I don't know what Ignition is. I do know a 30'' monitor increases winrate and happiness tremendously. I'm not that thrilled to grind on this 14'' POS laptop but I'm thinking it's getting intriguing enough that I would do it. Maybe just get a 20'' monitor. They are pretty cheap these days.

I don't even know a lot about solvers I have just seen a lot of Stroggoz's hands and talked to him and thought that he played very well. I didn't realize PiO edge costs $1,000 or that I'd need a $5k desktop to run it well. There are probably non-bad budget options at this point. Just like DAWs. Ableton 11 Live Pro is a shit ton but Reaper is potentially even better and it's virtually free. I'm just feeling it out at this point. Keep in mind besides private live games I haven't played a hand of poker since 2010.

On April 28 2022 12:19 lostaccount wrote: Now I have lots of time since I don’t grind anymore, I find ways to save money. I even started a veggie garden n flower garden. Learn to survive on ur own. I’m gonna learn more survival skills too. Poker is fun once in awhile but it isn’t worth it if I’m making 20-30$ an hour. To sit there for so long, ur health gets worst. Posture is bad n eyes hurt.

I would probably take $20-30 / hr at this point. I don't think there is opportunity cost. It's not like I am passing up some job as a software engineer or any engineer to quit college for poker. In high school people just thought I'd end up with some job that would make $100k or whatever and poker was just like WHAT?!?!?! But, partly because of poker and partly because I didn't like academia I cruised through a History degree. Which I didn't think about it back then but I should have snap called poker as what I would focus on 100% as soon as I decided not to be a lawyer or a teacher. The expected value of a history degree on it's own is pretty shitty and I was playing poker all the time so I wasn't doing any research or getting close to any professors or getting any references, etc.

Now, I am in a similar position except my current prospects are even worse. Work retail or whatever other shitty job at $15-20/hr.

2ptbb/100 @ 200 NL @ 400 hands/hr is $32/hr. That's pretty good imo.

There's no law school in my future. In fact I don't see any education in my future. It's shit employment and shit training basically. Maybe my mind isn't thinking enough or thinking outside the box or creatively but poker could potentially be an out. My brother has been saying this for years.

On April 28 2022 12:25 lostaccount wrote: If u drive n have a car, u can do Uber eats or skip the dishes. In my city I think u can make 300$ a day 8 hours. But after gas insurance etc ur averaging 25-30$ an hour. I would rather do that than play poker.

Really?

I have driven for Uber. It's pretty miserable. Maybe you can hit $40/hr on pseudo-outlier events like a football game when the bars close, etc. but overall it's pretty shitty even though I liked talking to the customers.

I also delivered pizzas. It's a similar deal. On a Friday night I could make more than the owner. I know this because he would rib me about it. But, on a Monday you are making nothing.

On April 28 2022 15:11 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2022 14:52 RiKD wrote:   On April 28 2022 06:19 hiems wrote: Lol u don't need a fancy solver to beat 25nl genius. Notice wit ur communist activities such as playing guitar u do everything in ur power 2 make it work..."all I needZ is a student guitar" Yet in poker all of the sudden u start talking about all this shit u don't need and don't want to come up with any ways to work around the problem lol wat a joke. I just assumed you need to study solvers to beat 200 NL so why wouldn't I start off the right way? explain what u mean exactly by "need to study the solvers" because I have no idea what u r talking about. you dont even have a preflop strategy right now...why dont you focus on that? you realize thats the most important part of your game...? ru going to get a multi terrabyte ram computer to run solves yourself for those? lol... everytime i hear you talk about poker you go into this loop of talkin about solvers and stuff just like you talk about philosophy and other bs its just a bunch of nonsense i hope you realize that.

I have a preflop strategy and I am 100% positive that it is sub-optimal. I would also want to sim spots post-flop that I am unsure about which at this point after looking at a lot of Stroggoz hands I am unsure about every spot. Let me play a fish heads-up and I'll make 20+ptbb/100. Put me at a 500 NL 6-max table with people that have put in substantial solver work and I am probably a -15ptbb/100 spot or worse. My goal isn't to beat 25 NL it's to beat 1,000 NL or more realistically at this point 100 or 200 NL and see what happens.

I am kind of like the Russians and Brazilians that still play poker. It's not like I can get a PhD and do research in math like Stroggoz which is basically a dream. There are no dreams for me left. Playing even 30,000 hands in a month sounds pretty bad to me at this point but I would do it if I could get out of retail hell.

On April 28 2022 15:57 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2022 15:11 hiems wrote:   On April 28 2022 14:52 RiKD wrote:   On April 28 2022 06:19 hiems wrote: Lol u don't need a fancy solver to beat 25nl genius. Notice wit ur communist activities such as playing guitar u do everything in ur power 2 make it work..."all I needZ is a student guitar" Yet in poker all of the sudden u start talking about all this shit u don't need and don't want to come up with any ways to work around the problem lol wat a joke. I just assumed you need to study solvers to beat 200 NL so why wouldn't I start off the right way? explain what u mean exactly by "need to study the solvers" because I have no idea what u r talking about. you dont even have a preflop strategy right now...why dont you focus on that? you realize thats the most important part of your game...? ru going to get a multi terrabyte ram computer to run solves yourself for those? lol... everytime i hear you talk about poker you go into this loop of talkin about solvers and stuff just like you talk about philosophy and other bs its just a bunch of nonsense i hope you realize that. wat about mass data/population tendencies? also what about mental game? last i checked that is what was the downfall of your career. like 90% of brian rast game is focus on what he is good at instead of solvers. he is a knife fighter, not a chart reader and he is one of the most successful pros albeit in live mtt and mix games. maybe instead of just talking about solvers and doing nothing it is better to just jump into 25nl or something get your feet wet and start from there... who would have thought...

I probably undervalue mass data / population tendencies. I was talking to Stroggoz one time about that and I saw the value like with how people play the blinds but I never cared about that too much when I played. It was all about the player, game flow, and hand reading for the most part. Obviously, pot odds and bet sizing, etc. matter a lot too.

Mental game is most important. I never had issues until I started taking shots in big games and PLO run bad. There was also the time where I was depressed and smoking weed and taking couch medicines all day. Other wise if I had a bunch of buy-ins for a limit and grinded it out I was fine besides not always getting in hands.

I am not Brian Rast. I have no desire to play live MTTs or mixed games. I want to pseudonymously take tons of cash out of online NLHE games.

On April 28 2022 21:08 hiems wrote: im considering building a desktop finally. its not cheap. gto+ is a good program but I prefer PIO. PiO came out with PiO 2 which further reduces solvetime. PIO Pro maxes out at 16 cores, PIO Edge allows up to 64 cores I think. cores = solver speed, ram = max size of the game tree. build 1 for me is ryzen 5950x which is 16 core processor that maxes out at 128gb ram. build 2 is threadripper 3960x which is 24 core processor that maxes out at 256gb ram. build 1 is ~ 2500 bucks build 2 is ~4000-4500 bucks depending on if you get your processor / motherboard used. im considering getting build 2 and just leaving it on pio pro not utilizing 8 cores and leaving it at 128gb ram. this saves ~1k on pio edge license as well as 564 dollars on 4x32 ram....but leaves options to upgrade as see fit whether its upgrade ram or utilize all cores. this route with used processor/motherboard comes out to 3587 after paying guy to build it for me. possible to reduce it a bit by buying worse graphics card.

It's not vanity until you buy it and post pics

I'm pretty sure there's a couple sites that accepts US players. Bovada/ignition comes to mind. Playing on these sites will at least allow you to not move right off the bat. Seems like you will benefit having your support base around you as opposed to a new city + back to the lonely existence of online grinding.
On the poker front, maybe keep your initial investment minimal. Lots of info available just via RIO that will likely help you more than running your own sims at this point. If you enjoy online poker still, maybe then look into investing capital in hardware or whatever else.

How can Ignition accept USA players?

What is the loophole and is it in danger of getting DOJ'd?

If I was gonna make money from poker, I would run a bot farm. I break their tos cuz I don’t really like the sites greed anyways. If I’m taking money from professional, too bad everything is slowly getting AI driven. An online poker players job isn’t that special. Yea rikd imo if u play poker, might lead to more stress cuz of swings. I feel way happier now that I don’t grind. I think u just need to learn to find cost saving areas. Cuz 31k is a lot. What do u spend money on?

But lucky for them I don’t want to win that way lol. If I was money hungry I totally do that lol

It looks like there isn't any play money on Ignition.

I kind of wanted to see how the software is before I save and throw a thousand on there for the Poker Bonus. I should probably read what the bonus entails as well.