We will die.

memento mori

after death is the same as before birth. You have already experienced the void

why are we afraid?

How do you know that after death is the same as before birth?

thats a critical and good question

i dont

It's difficult for me to have confidence that we will just enter nothingness upon death. A lot of people throw that around as fact but I don't believe in that. I don't know what I believe in which is why death is scary for me. Death is also many times surrounded by old age, pain, etc. I think we as humans need to look at knowledge and wisdom surrounding life and death. The good life very much includes a good death if possible. I still agree with Heidegger that the best lesson in authenticity is a walk in the graveyard. Something I am way past due on but there are no convenient, nice graveyards to walk here. People here don't think like that. They are fat and rich and are delighted with Disney. I think authenticity is mostly played out and just a marketing ploy of capitalism. But, really spending time in a secluded graveyard. With trees, and a river, and mountains in the distance. Even seeing the expensive stones weathered away. The names not even legible. That is all of us. I don't wish for streams of champagne but I want something more. Help, I am alive and I want. Friends and a love interest for this broken down, mentally ill human may be too much to ask. They say any expectation is a potential resentment. I do not wish to be angry and bitter. But, I am afraid of death. I am afraid of pain. I am afraid of a lot of things. Many of these fears are holding me back to living a better life or what I deem to be a better life. From my experiences, I do know that certain things just work. It would be silly to argue that good friends will not bolster a better life.

Man we claim to know all sorts of things in every day life.

People asking for such an extreme level of confidence when it comes to claiming there's no afterlife, in comparison to other claims. The rigor people demand for atheism is something close to a mathematical proof.

On April 09 2023 18:44 dnagardi wrote: memento mori after death is the same as before birth. You have already experienced the void why are we afraid?

Yeah a few people have had that insight before.

I actually do believe that nothingness - consciousness - nothingness is probably the most likely outcome but I don't know what I am basing that off of. Let me be worm food or dog food or fish food or just anhiliated to the best of our knowledge and let's call it a day and I can get on living. I want to learn about living and death though. Death can certainly be an impetus for life. I keep memento mori around my room. I don't know how strong they are on my daily life. I have to really get shaken up to get a jolt of the good stuff. Near miss car encounters that could have been fatal being a few examples. I was programmed by capitalism to do more though. Today, I would probably be motivated to do less. Focus on a social life more or just lingering contemplation. Maybe some paintings. Maybe some songs.

On April 11 2023 02:42 RiKD wrote: It's difficult for me to have confidence that we will just enter nothingness upon death. A lot of people throw that around as fact but I don't believe in that. I don't know what I believe in which is why death is scary for me. Death is also many times surrounded by old age, pain, etc. I think we as humans need to look at knowledge and wisdom surrounding life and death. The good life very much includes a good death if possible. I still agree with Heidegger that the best lesson in authenticity is a walk in the graveyard. Something I am way past due on but there are no convenient, nice graveyards to walk here. People here don't think like that. They are fat and rich and are delighted with Disney. I think authenticity is mostly played out and just a marketing ploy of capitalism. But, really spending time in a secluded graveyard. With trees, and a river, and mountains in the distance. Even seeing the expensive stones weathered away. The names not even legible. That is all of us. I don't wish for streams of champagne but I want something more. Help, I am alive and I want. Friends and a love interest for this broken down, mentally ill human may be too much to ask. They say any expectation is a potential resentment. I do not wish to be angry and bitter. But, I am afraid of death. I am afraid of pain. I am afraid of a lot of things. Many of these fears are holding me back to living a better life or what I deem to be a better life. From my experiences, I do know that certain things just work. It would be silly to argue that good friends will not bolster a better life.

you don't need a nice graveyard. In fact the more neglected the better. At least I think that's what Heidegger would have advised you.

On April 11 2023 02:42 RiKD wrote: It's difficult for me to have confidence that we will just enter nothingness upon death. A lot of people throw that around as fact but I don't believe in that. I don't know what I believe in which is why death is scary for me. Death is also many times surrounded by old age, pain, etc. I think we as humans need to look at knowledge and wisdom surrounding life and death. The good life very much includes a good death if possible. I still agree with Heidegger that the best lesson in authenticity is a walk in the graveyard. Something I am way past due on but there are no convenient, nice graveyards to walk here. People here don't think like that. They are fat and rich and are delighted with Disney. I think authenticity is mostly played out and just a marketing ploy of capitalism. But, really spending time in a secluded graveyard. With trees, and a river, and mountains in the distance. Even seeing the expensive stones weathered away. The names not even legible. That is all of us. I don't wish for streams of champagne but I want something more. Help, I am alive and I want. Friends and a love interest for this broken down, mentally ill human may be too much to ask. They say any expectation is a potential resentment. I do not wish to be angry and bitter. But, I am afraid of death. I am afraid of pain. I am afraid of a lot of things. Many of these fears are holding me back to living a better life or what I deem to be a better life. From my experiences, I do know that certain things just work. It would be silly to argue that good friends will not bolster a better life.

that heidnigger guy probably envied wealthy people and just tried to be edgy to get pussy. also i don't understand the retardation in which one believes that when the brain dies you can experience something. is that what they teach in universities?

On April 12 2023 18:06 dnagardi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2023 02:42 RiKD wrote: It's difficult for me to have confidence that we will just enter nothingness upon death. A lot of people throw that around as fact but I don't believe in that. I don't know what I believe in which is why death is scary for me. Death is also many times surrounded by old age, pain, etc. I think we as humans need to look at knowledge and wisdom surrounding life and death. The good life very much includes a good death if possible. I still agree with Heidegger that the best lesson in authenticity is a walk in the graveyard. Something I am way past due on but there are no convenient, nice graveyards to walk here. People here don't think like that. They are fat and rich and are delighted with Disney. I think authenticity is mostly played out and just a marketing ploy of capitalism. But, really spending time in a secluded graveyard. With trees, and a river, and mountains in the distance. Even seeing the expensive stones weathered away. The names not even legible. That is all of us. I don't wish for streams of champagne but I want something more. Help, I am alive and I want. Friends and a love interest for this broken down, mentally ill human may be too much to ask. They say any expectation is a potential resentment. I do not wish to be angry and bitter. But, I am afraid of death. I am afraid of pain. I am afraid of a lot of things. Many of these fears are holding me back to living a better life or what I deem to be a better life. From my experiences, I do know that certain things just work. It would be silly to argue that good friends will not bolster a better life. you don't need a nice graveyard. In fact the more neglected the better. At least I think that's what Heidegger would have advised you.

I just meant a nice cemetery to walk. At my sister's old place it was perfect. A quaint little cemetery at the end of a 1 or 2 mile walk or more if I wanted. Been there since the 1700s. I'm glad I brought this up because it motivated me to check out a cemetery here in town that at least has a lot of massive oak trees from the pictures. I like the juxtaposition of the old oak trees versus the pathetic stones that people decide to set up or the giant mountains and flowing river in the case of my sister's old place.

On April 12 2023 19:20 CurbStomp2 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2023 02:42 RiKD wrote: It's difficult for me to have confidence that we will just enter nothingness upon death. A lot of people throw that around as fact but I don't believe in that. I don't know what I believe in which is why death is scary for me. Death is also many times surrounded by old age, pain, etc. I think we as humans need to look at knowledge and wisdom surrounding life and death. The good life very much includes a good death if possible. I still agree with Heidegger that the best lesson in authenticity is a walk in the graveyard. Something I am way past due on but there are no convenient, nice graveyards to walk here. People here don't think like that. They are fat and rich and are delighted with Disney. I think authenticity is mostly played out and just a marketing ploy of capitalism. But, really spending time in a secluded graveyard. With trees, and a river, and mountains in the distance. Even seeing the expensive stones weathered away. The names not even legible. That is all of us. I don't wish for streams of champagne but I want something more. Help, I am alive and I want. Friends and a love interest for this broken down, mentally ill human may be too much to ask. They say any expectation is a potential resentment. I do not wish to be angry and bitter. But, I am afraid of death. I am afraid of pain. I am afraid of a lot of things. Many of these fears are holding me back to living a better life or what I deem to be a better life. From my experiences, I do know that certain things just work. It would be silly to argue that good friends will not bolster a better life. that heidnigger guy probably envied wealthy people and just tried to be edgy to get pussy. also i don't understand the retardation in which one believes that when the brain dies you can experience something. is that what they teach in universities?

I don't see how you gathered that Heidegger envied wealthy people because he suggested someone take a walk in a graveyard to understand authenticity. He had a wife and fucked his students probably in part due to his "edginess." I'm surprised you don't know about him. He was a literal Nazi and wanted to be the philosopher-king of the Nazi party.

There is a lot we don't know about conciousness. I never studied consciousness at university. There are other reasons that people concoct theories surrounding what happens after death. I'm not trying to concoct theories because it is sort of a waste of time. I am not that creative and I'd rather paint or write a song. That does not mean that blip - dead - nothingness is the only option. How do we even create probabilities with a subject like this?

true dat bro

don't think about the future, because you can't predict it.

don't worry about the past because you can't change it anyway

and forget about the present.

i didn't get you one.

On April 13 2023 14:12 Santafairy wrote: true dat bro don't think about the future, because you can't predict it. don't worry about the past because you can't change it anyway and forget about the present. i didn't get you one.

Hey, it's one of the good Santa posts.

My position is not to not think about the future but to not worry about the future so much.

-_-

rikd Gl we will be fine if u just live to be

What the fuck is going on here

edit - other than letting the crazy lostaccount in. You, keep your shit together man

U crazy me crazy but r u da crazy 1

Devon think he is sane in this insane world lol
Well I am crazy in this crazy world
Life goes on

Devon let’s go all in PF Holdem, winner can keeps posting n loser becomes a lurker

You're legit a fucking retard. I don't know who let you out of the cage.