https://www.liquidpoker.net/


LP international    Contact            Users: 440 Active, 2 Logged in - Time: 00:57

Healthiest Man Alive?

New to LiquidPoker? Register here for free!
Forum Index > General
 1 
  2 
  > 
  Last 
  All 
RiKD    United States. Mar 15 2025 18:38. Posts 9193

What do you guys think about all of this?

Facebook Twitter

Loco   Canada. Mar 15 2025 20:51. Posts 20983

Why do you care? Do you have the money to do dozens of experimental treatments? Do you have the mental stability to have the same exact routine every day? You're consuming irrelevant internet fast food at the end of the day if none of it can help you here and now.

I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that he doesn't make it to 100. He's not the first person to think he has cracked the code to health, and there are probably millions of people like him out there obsessing about their health, which might be good for improving certain health markers, but there are too many things that people can't control about health. So much of what he does is obsessive and experimental, there is no way to be confident that it is truly better than living well with time tested methods without all of the gadgets and time spent optimizing. Ultimately, he is a symptom of a sick society that overly focuses on hyperindividualistic aims at the expense of collective health, and that is a recipe for disaster. He won't be able to live in a self-sustaining bubble once everything's on fire or polluted or in rubbles around him. Of course with his money he is shielded or could rebuild all of his shit if his home is destroyed in a fire but everyone's going to suffer the breakdown of society sooner or later and he won't be able to maintain his lifestyle when the plebs are no longer supporting it.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 15/03/2025 20:59

RiKD    United States. Mar 16 2025 21:08. Posts 9193

I gleaned some sleep tips. I can't afford macademia nut milk and I don't have a personal chef but I could more or less copy his diet if I wanted to. I am looking for hypertrophy so his diet doesn't seem ample for that but it's interesting to see what he eats. I'd rather be Byung-Chul Han or some retired shephard from Sardegnia than to do all that shit.


RiKD    United States. Mar 16 2025 21:12. Posts 9193

Byung-Chul Han because he embodies a proper balance between the vita contemplative and the vita activa. He may live a long time but he's certainly not obsessing about it. He smokes tobacco afterall.


Loco   Canada. Mar 17 2025 22:38. Posts 20983

You would not be able to copy his diet. He eats the same thing every day. You knew plant based was the way to go years ago and still couldn't keep with it, despite having the possibility of 100x more variety than his diet. I also don't think anyone wants to be drinking olive oil. It's not fun, and it doesn't come with any health benefits either.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Baalim   Mexico. Mar 18 2025 05:04. Posts 34283


  On March 15 2025 19:51 Loco wrote:
He won't be able to live in a self-sustaining bubble once everything's on fire or polluted or in rubbles around him.



lmao still holding a The End is Near cardboard sign it seems.

At this rate you are gong to surpass Nostradamus on failed apocalypse date predictions.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro OnlineLast edit: 18/03/2025 07:03

Loco   Canada. Mar 19 2025 05:00. Posts 20983

I'm not making predictions and there is no need for the end of the world to occur to thwart his plans, he could have just been caught in the LA fires for example, being rich doesn't shield rich people from everything. But yes when you're talking on the scale of centuries (since he wants to live for centuries if not forever) you have to account for the worst of the worst of climate change and everything that that will bring about. Anthropogenic climate change is one of the most scientifically robust theories we have and you would have to be a complete moron to think that would not affect Mr Batman from continuing to live peacefully with all his gadgets while people grow his food and build everything he uses. The whole thing becomes absolutely meaningless when capital is no longer the ruling principle of life on earth, which it wouldn't be in hundreds of years by necessity.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Baalim   Mexico. Mar 19 2025 09:33. Posts 34283


  On March 19 2025 04:00 Loco wrote:
I'm not making predictions and there is no need for the end of the world to occur to thwart his plans, he could have just been caught in the LA fires for example, being rich doesn't shield rich people from everything. But yes when you're talking on the scale of centuries (since he wants to live for centuries if not forever) you have to account for the worst of the worst of climate change and everything that that will bring about. Anthropogenic climate change is one of the most scientifically robust theories we have and you would have to be a complete moron to think that would not affect Mr Batman from continuing to live peacefully with all his gadgets while people grow his food and build everything he uses. The whole thing becomes absolutely meaningless when capital is no longer the ruling principle of life on earth, which it wouldn't be in hundreds of years by necessity.



Antropogenic climate change is almost a fact, but there is a wall of complex systems that we can't see through, hence all the time frames and predictions have been wrong and they have been politically driven hysteria, so if we say he has like 40 years left to live I'd say its pretty unlikely he suffer any significant change in his lifestyle due to climate and or some communist upraise lol.


Regarding him specifically you think he is wasting his life and you dislike him for his selfish pursuit of longevity, I agree that he is wasting his life but I think his selfish pursuit of longevity might actually create some knowledge about longevity/health for the rest of us, another example of industrious self interest being good for society, + 1 points to Ayn Rand haha.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 17:31. Posts 5355


  On March 18 2025 04:04 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



lmao still holding a The End is Near cardboard sign it seems.

At this rate you are gong to surpass Nostradamus on failed apocalypse date predictions.


We have gone beyond 6 of our 9 planetary boundaries, and six tipping points are at risk, and scientists think that we may have already set the breaking of the west antarctic ice shelf in motion.

Currently, farmers in india and Pakistan are using extra melt from the Himalayas to expand their crop yields. It's projected that thus short boon will backfire around 2050 when it starts to drastically run out. This will also result in mass drought in the sahel region in Africa because that water currently turns into cloud and rains there.

About 1 percent of insect species go extinct every year, and once you kill enough it will likely make growing food in many parts of the world very difficult.

The hothouse effect is a current unknown speculation debated by scientists. Though I don't think it needs to be true for us to be at risk of serious catastrophe. Or rather the global south is.

Global warming already knocked 12 percent of global gdp off the global economy from a 1 degree rise, according to economists in a recent paper. Though glancing through their paper, its likely an underestimate. They don't factor in many effects like species decline or air bourne vector diseases.

Most of this human misery could be avoided by reducing advertising, and planned obsolescence, and ending beef and suv production, eductation of women and family planning programmes. and rolling out renewables to replace fossil fuels.

Furthermore, 30 percent of the world's population think about global warming every single day, and in poor nations 45 percent are alarmed by climate change, and vast majority think their governments are not doing enough to combat it, which is less than richer nations. Polls are basically uniform on this.

To give examples. 90 percent in Uganda think their governments not doing enough on climate change.

That a giant catastrophe is coming is a fairly mainstream centrist opinion when you look at the world.

Your in a pretty small minority of opinion that don't seem to be paying attention and or are in an echochamber where a visibly changing world is seen around us.

In fact the indigenous populations of Europe noticed global warming about 50 years ago as their reindeer started dying off.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 19/03/2025 20:34

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 17:58. Posts 5355


  On March 19 2025 08:33 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Antropogenic climate change is almost a fact, but there is a wall of complex systems that we can't see through, hence all the time frames and predictions have been wrong and they have been politically driven hysteria, so if we say he has like 40 years left to live I'd say its pretty unlikely he suffer any significant change in his lifestyle due to climate and or some communist upraise lol.


Regarding him specifically you think he is wasting his life and you dislike him for his selfish pursuit of longevity, I agree that he is wasting his life but I think his selfish pursuit of longevity might actually create some knowledge about longevity/health for the rest of us, another example of industrious self interest being good for society, + 1 points to Ayn Rand haha.


Almost a fact? In terms of predictions, the ipcc didn't even agree that climate change was unequivocally man made until the 4th report. Except there was consensus in the 1970s. Even fucking AL gore knew this in 1970.

Edward teller predicted with very high accuracy how many parts per million of carbon we'd have in 1959. The fossil fuel industry had all uniformly agreed that climate change was man made in the 1980s.

Not only that, but they ran simulations on how preventable it was by switching to nuclear. Turns out they could have bought us another 40 years of time if they did that, because we would have started early.

In economics, the social cost of carbon was 31 dollars in the 2010s. Now it's 1367 dollars. That's how much economists underestimated it.

Scientists overlooked a lot of factors but the ipcc was a joke and about 20 years behind for the first 3 reports. The west antarctic ice shelf was predicted to break off in the 1980s.

So we have drastically underestimated the climate crisis.

Also the limits to growth model that everyone used to laugh at has been retested recently. Turns out that under one of the projections, it really wasn't too far off the mark for projecting ecological collapse.

Can you see from your house any noticeable changes in the environment? Most people I know tell me that cicadas stopped singing or something.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 19/03/2025 20:52

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 18:08. Posts 5355

I watched about 2minutes. This guy Is what every LinkedIn circlejerker aspires to be.

Imma hire 30 doctors to make me live 5 years longer when they could be doing actual useful shit with their M.D. Jesus Christ I can't even with these insufferable douchebags.

These people actually made a world where I want my life expectancy to be reduced asap.

Did he really say at the start of the video that he will be the first generation to not die??????

Gee, I've never heard that before...

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 19/03/2025 18:12

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Mar 19 2025 18:53. Posts 5355


  On March 16 2025 20:08 RiKD wrote:
I gleaned some sleep tips. I can't afford macademia nut milk and I don't have a personal chef but I could more or less copy his diet if I wanted to. I am looking for hypertrophy so his diet doesn't seem ample for that but it's interesting to see what he eats. I'd rather be Byung-Chul Han or some retired shephard from Sardegnia than to do all that shit.



This guy also has microplastics in his brain and testicle, which probably degrades his semen quality. He probably doesn't factor that into his diet. Every time he has a kid, they are bourne from increased microplastics ejaculated concentration.

His psychological state will gradually become more irratible as time goes on and heatwaves increase while biodiversity declines.

His neurobiology is rewired by the adverts he sees, which started moulding his brain from the age of 2, and encouraged him to pursue his individualistic life, which he seems to think is totally original. By age 3, he was likely comparing his social status with his peers, going off brand names.

The nutrition of his plants in his food will further decrease as they are ruined by nitrogen based fertilizer and other chemicals and reduced pollination from insect decline.

Aerosols in the atmosphere make their way into his lunga and cause all sorts of health problems.

The bacteria in his body will become more resistant to antibiotics, and more such bacteria will enter his bloodstream due to ecological breakdown and agricultural contamination as well as dust storms as well as increased body temperatures.

Depending on where he lives, maleria and dengue and yellow fever may make it to his region in the future. Melting permafrost may release more dangerous pathogens.

The doctors he hires probably don't tell him this, to keep him in a state of perpetual self delusion so that their payroll continues without hindrance.

Of course, he escapes most of these issues to a varying degree, but hard to escape forever even as a billionaire.

You can actually get your life expectancy up to about 80 just from clean water and universal Healthcare, and community. And not much else. Don't need to be that rich. That seems to be the consensus anyway.

Also strong community goes really really far for increasing the life expectancy of men. Less Suicides. Less mental health issues. Less addiction.

Neoliberalism Is basically designed to break men, particularly in patriarchal societies where men base their identity off being the bread providers.

This doesn't stop armies of manosphere influences from encouraging individualism and hyper competitive lifestyles.

This guy is not a manosphere influencer ofc. Just another guy who thinks the best contribution he can make to society is divert resources to himself in order to have the perfect life, quantified down to the last fucking quinoa seed.

There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.

I respect incels far more than this guy.

That's all for today folks. Ngl I had fun with this post.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 19/03/2025 20:56

Loco   Canada. Mar 20 2025 03:31. Posts 20983


  On March 19 2025 08:33 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Antropogenic climate change is almost a fact, but there is a wall of complex systems that we can't see through, hence all the time frames and predictions have been wrong and they have been politically driven hysteria, so if we say he has like 40 years left to live I'd say its pretty unlikely he suffer any significant change in his lifestyle due to climate and or some communist upraise lol.


Regarding him specifically you think he is wasting his life and you dislike him for his selfish pursuit of longevity, I agree that he is wasting his life but I think his selfish pursuit of longevity might actually create some knowledge about longevity/health for the rest of us, another example of industrious self interest being good for society, + 1 points to Ayn Rand haha.


Stroggoz already added more than enough about climate change so I won't bother, I'm just going to mention that Bryan Johnson is not doing anything original, the movement that he represents as a venture capitalist is one that was popularized in 2005 by Ray Kurzweil. He basically gave himself a life purpose + monetized the belief that given enough time, human beings would become immortal. He is trying to do everything in his power to reverse aging so that he reaches the key turning point for this: the arrival of Artificial Superintelligence. Kurzweil predicted this would become a reality around 2045. It's techno-optimism and stems from the same primitive psychology as religious messianism.

Doesn't matter what I think of him as a person, he's way underestimating the power of his therapies (like the plasma transfusions he got from his son did absolutely nothing for his health). He currently thinks he can keep reversing aging, so that he's not actively dying. This is just plain not true. But the real issue isn't his character it's the pseudo-philosophy he believes in, which can only occur in the mind of someone who is disconnected (shielded) from the world as it actually exist. Given enough time humans adapt to their circumstances and take them for granted. We can't really conceive of how drastically different our lives might look in the future, we are hardwired to be short-sighted. All he's doing is short-sighted because it doesn't account for the fragility of our systems which he depends on to pursue this mission, especially over a large timeframe of more than one lifetime.
There are so many potential climate catastrophes or social catastrophes that could affect him between now and let's say 70 years from now, which you don't need any special technology to be able to accomplish living to. But if you take him at his word he would not only avoid all of this perturbing his routines but he would also be able to do it for several lifetimes.
Its a cool niche for an influencer because there aren't tons of people with the means to do what he's doing, and it's still relatively novel, but I think in a few decades he's going to be tired and bored. It's not nearly serious enough to be of use to society. One case study can be interesting for further research but fails to prove anything. He would need to invest his fortune and get a bunch more people to do experimental treatments with him but ultimately it would just be for silly points of "I'm biologically younger than you according to this test" which of course doesn't mean you're not going to get some disease that's going to kill you or be in some accident.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/03/2025 03:37

Loco   Canada. Mar 20 2025 03:49. Posts 20983

Just to a highlight one of the problems with his approach is that he takes 100+ supplements daily, and supplements are known to vary greatly in their true content, and they often contain contaminants. Sometimes the contaminants are in such high levels that we can conclude that whatever effect the supplement might have had, it has been completely nullified.

Bryan also sells all the stuff he takes and one of his products got tested recently and it is illegal to sell in Europe because of heavy metal contamination. He has this test on his own website but still sells it.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/03/2025 03:50

PuertoRican   United States. Mar 20 2025 06:41. Posts 13171

RiKD is obviously the healthiest man alive.

Rekrul is a newb 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Mar 20 2025 20:20. Posts 5355

Yeah I dont think scientists would learn much from this single human subject. A single test subject does healthy things and lives to 98 or something. What does that tell you?

The real anti-aging science out there presumably is done in fields like microbiology under controlled experiments, or it's done epidemiologically, like studying various cultures in the world and seeing what they so different and controlling for variables. Like Nicoya people in Costa Rica. Although that study turned out to be problematic.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 20/03/2025 20:24

RiKD    United States. Mar 21 2025 05:20. Posts 9193

“We use most of our powers to extend life. In so doing, we succeed only in reducing life to survival. We live in order to survive. The mania for health and optimization is a reflexive response to the lack of being. We try to compensate for the absence of being by extending bare life, and in so doing we become desensitized to life’s intensity. We confuse it with increased production, performance and consumption, but these are merely forms of survival.”

- Byung-Chul Han Vita Contemplativa

"Genar-Hofoen glanced at her. 'I always said I'd live once and then die,' he said. 'Never to be reborn, never to enter a simulation.' He shrugged and looked embarassed. 'Intensity,' he said. 'You know; make the most of your one time.'

Genar-Hofoen was sticking to his principles in the face of imminent death - and she did feel a little admiration - but mostly she just thought he was being stupid."

Excession - Iain Banks


RiKD    United States. Mar 21 2025 05:46. Posts 9193


  On March 20 2025 05:41 PuertoRican wrote:
RiKD is obviously the healthiest man alive.



I'm not even the healthiest man in this thread but I'm doing pretty well for myself lately at least in terms of bare life (survival). I don't like that marker of "healthy" but it seems to be what most people mean when they use the term "healthy." Am I happy? Am I well? Am I going to kill myself? Is someone going to ship a nuke at my house? How is my blood work? These are all considerations I suppose.


RiKD    United States. Mar 21 2025 22:04. Posts 9193


  On March 20 2025 02:49 Loco wrote:
Just to a highlight one of the problems with his approach is that he takes 100+ supplements daily, and supplements are known to vary greatly in their true content, and they often contain contaminants. Sometimes the contaminants are in such high levels that we can conclude that whatever effect the supplement might have had, it has been completely nullified.

Bryan also sells all the stuff he takes and one of his products got tested recently and it is illegal to sell in Europe because of heavy metal contamination. He has this test on his own website but still sells it.



I'm glad you brought this up because that was something I wondered. He calls his evoo "Snake Oil" and I just thought that was a dubious name. It's like a leveling game. Which level is Bryan on. I think he is probably delusional more than straight up grift but it's hard to tell.


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2025 05:43. Posts 34283


  On March 20 2025 02:31 Loco wrote:

Doesn't matter what I think of him as a person, he's ay underestimating the power of his therapies (like the plasma transfusions he got from his son did absolutely nothing for his health). He currently thinks he can keep reversing aging, so that he's not actively dying. This is just plain not true. But the real issue isn't his character it's the pseudo-philosophy he believes in, which can only occur in the mind of someone who is disconnected (shielded) from the world as it actually exist. Given enough time humans adapt to their circumstances and take them for granted. We can't really conceive of how drastically different our lives might look in the future, we are hardwired to be short-sighted. All he's doing is short-sighted because it doesn't account for the fragility of our systems which he depends on to pursue this mission, especially over a large timeframe of more than one lifetime.
There are so many potential climate catastrophes or social catastrophes that could affect him between now and let's say 70 years from now, which you don't need any special technology to be able to accomplish living to. But if you take him at his word he would not only avoid all of this perturbing his routines but he would also be able to do it for several lifetimes.
Its a cool niche for an influencer because there aren't tons of people with the means to do what he's doing, and it's still relatively novel, but I think in a few decades he's going to be tired and bored. It's not nearly serious enough to be of use to society. One case study can be interesting for further research but fails to prove anything. He would need to invest his fortune and get a bunch more people to do experimental treatments with him but ultimately it would just be for silly points of "I'm biologically younger than you according to this test" which of course doesn't mean you're not going to get some disease that's going to kill you or be in some accident.



We are in agreement on almost everything about it, its not like he is doing super useful reserach or anything he is just a weird Patrick Bateman character, I was only referring to your part of "selfish pursuit of health" which I guess its just the crooked way you see life in general so its not like we are going to get anywhere there are we?

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

 
 1 
  2 
  > 
  Last 
  All 



Poker Streams

















Copyright © 2025. LiquidPoker.net All Rights Reserved
Contact Advertise Sitemap