On March 20 2025 02:49 Loco wrote:
Just to a highlight one of the problems with his approach is that he takes 100+ supplements daily, and supplements are known to vary greatly in their true content, and they often contain contaminants. Sometimes the contaminants are in such high levels that we can conclude that whatever effect the supplement might have had, it has been completely nullified.
Bryan also sells all the stuff he takes and one of his products got tested recently and it is illegal to sell in Europe because of heavy metal contamination. He has this test on his own website but still sells it.
I'm glad you brought this up because that was something I wondered. He calls his evoo "Snake Oil" and I just thought that was a dubious name. It's like a leveling game. Which level is Bryan on. I think he is probably delusional more than straight up grift but it's hard to tell.
Doesn't matter what I think of him as a person, he's ay underestimating the power of his therapies (like the plasma transfusions he got from his son did absolutely nothing for his health). He currently thinks he can keep reversing aging, so that he's not actively dying. This is just plain not true. But the real issue isn't his character it's the pseudo-philosophy he believes in, which can only occur in the mind of someone who is disconnected (shielded) from the world as it actually exist. Given enough time humans adapt to their circumstances and take them for granted. We can't really conceive of how drastically different our lives might look in the future, we are hardwired to be short-sighted. All he's doing is short-sighted because it doesn't account for the fragility of our systems which he depends on to pursue this mission, especially over a large timeframe of more than one lifetime.
There are so many potential climate catastrophes or social catastrophes that could affect him between now and let's say 70 years from now, which you don't need any special technology to be able to accomplish living to. But if you take him at his word he would not only avoid all of this perturbing his routines but he would also be able to do it for several lifetimes.
Its a cool niche for an influencer because there aren't tons of people with the means to do what he's doing, and it's still relatively novel, but I think in a few decades he's going to be tired and bored. It's not nearly serious enough to be of use to society. One case study can be interesting for further research but fails to prove anything. He would need to invest his fortune and get a bunch more people to do experimental treatments with him but ultimately it would just be for silly points of "I'm biologically younger than you according to this test" which of course doesn't mean you're not going to get some disease that's going to kill you or be in some accident.
We are in agreement on almost everything about it, its not like he is doing super useful reserach or anything he is just a weird Patrick Bateman character, I was only referring to your part of "selfish pursuit of health" which I guess its just the crooked way you see life in general so its not like we are going to get anywhere there are we?
On March 19 2025 17:53 Stroggoz wrote:
There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.
There isn't a more miserable archetype than the doomsday-obsessed-leftist, sure save the bees and fight the man are cool and all when you are a teenager but if you are still trying to derive some life meaning in that whlie you approach 40 you are fucked, you are no different than Bryan Johnson throwing your lives away in metastasized anxiety, neurotic acolytes.
In before I get flooded with 100 studies about antibiotic resistant bacteria totally missing the point.... the point being that I've been pro phasing out fossils for nuclear for 15 years in this forum, while somebody else in this thread has been quite antinuclear all this time and that's is simply because acolytes don't have eyes nor care to see, they just follow dogma and thankfully you are not that far gone, but given your posts about climate and other threats it seems to me that you've grown more anxious over the years, don't walk down that path bro.
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PuertoRican United States. Mar 23 2025 06:20. Posts 13181
On March 19 2025 17:53 Stroggoz wrote:
There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.
There isn't a more miserable archetype than the doomsday-obsessed-leftist, sure save the bees and fight the man are cool and all when you are a teenager but if you are still trying to derive some life meaning in that whlie you approach 40 you are fucked, you are no different than Bryan Johnson throwing your lives away in metastasized anxiety, neurotic acolytes.
In before I get flooded with 100 studies about antibiotic resistant bacteria totally missing the point.... the point being that I've been pro phasing out fossils for nuclear for 15 years in this forum, while somebody else in this thread has been quite antinuclear all this time and that's is simply because acolytes don't have eyes nor care to see, they just follow dogma and thankfully you are not that far gone, but given your posts about climate and other threats it seems to me that you've grown more anxious over the years, don't walk down that path bro.
You're the one who is missing the point bud. I'm not leaving any little bundles of joy behind and my family will all be gone by the time I have a natural death, not that we're close anyway. I don't live in doomsday anxiety because I have no horse in this race and it's unlikely to deeply affect my own life at least for a long while thanks to my geographical location. I just know the truth of the matter.
You're surprised about "reasonably intelligent people believing in bullshit" yet can't smell your own and still live in a Random fantasy. That's like Peter Pan's Neverland.
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On March 19 2025 17:53 Stroggoz wrote:
There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.
There isn't a more miserable archetype than the doomsday-obsessed-leftist, sure save the bees and fight the man are cool and all when you are a teenager but if you are still trying to derive some life meaning in that whlie you approach 40 you are fucked, you are no different than Bryan Johnson throwing your lives away in metastasized anxiety, neurotic acolytes.
In before I get flooded with 100 studies about antibiotic resistant bacteria totally missing the point.... the point being that I've been pro phasing out fossils for nuclear for 15 years in this forum, while somebody else in this thread has been quite antinuclear all this time and that's is simply because acolytes don't have eyes nor care to see, they just follow dogma and thankfully you are not that far gone, but given your posts about climate and other threats it seems to me that you've grown more anxious over the years, don't walk down that path bro.
You're the one who is missing the point bud. I'm not leaving any little bundles of joy behind and my family will all be gone by the time I have a natural death, not that we're close anyway. I don't live in doomsday anxiety because I have no horse in this race and it's unlikely to deeply affect my own life at least for a long while thanks to my geographical location. I just know the truth of the matter.
You're surprised about "reasonably intelligent people believing in bullshit" yet can't smell your own and still live in a Random fantasy. That's like Peter Pan's Neverland.
Just a few posts above you said that guy was going to suffer the effects of climate change yet now you say you won't be affected, so which is it?
What is the fantasy I'm living in?, enlighten me.
btw I dont think you in particular are super anxious, you feel more cynical and jaded to me especially now that you are older, I'm more "concerned" about Stroggoz which I feel is more prone to anxiety than you I just hope he doesn't get sucked further into the self destructive ideologies you dwell in, I think you've hurt RikD in the past with your influence, hope it doesnt happen the same with Stroggoz although he seems more resistant to influence.
On March 19 2025 17:53 Stroggoz wrote:
There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.
There isn't a more miserable archetype than the doomsday-obsessed-leftist, sure save the bees and fight the man are cool and all when you are a teenager but if you are still trying to derive some life meaning in that whlie you approach 40 you are fucked, you are no different than Bryan Johnson throwing your lives away in metastasized anxiety, neurotic acolytes.
In before I get flooded with 100 studies about antibiotic resistant bacteria totally missing the point.... the point being that I've been pro phasing out fossils for nuclear for 15 years in this forum, while somebody else in this thread has been quite antinuclear all this time and that's is simply because acolytes don't have eyes nor care to see, they just follow dogma and thankfully you are not that far gone, but given your posts about climate and other threats it seems to me that you've grown more anxious over the years, don't walk down that path bro.
You're the one who is missing the point bud. I'm not leaving any little bundles of joy behind and my family will all be gone by the time I have a natural death, not that we're close anyway. I don't live in doomsday anxiety because I have no horse in this race and it's unlikely to deeply affect my own life at least for a long while thanks to my geographical location. I just know the truth of the matter.
You're surprised about "reasonably intelligent people believing in bullshit" yet can't smell your own and still live in a Random fantasy. That's like Peter Pan's Neverland.
Just a few posts above you said that guy was going to suffer the effects of climate change yet now you say you won't be affected, so which is it?
What is the fantasy I'm living in?, enlighten me.
btw I dont think you in particular are super anxious, you feel more cynical and jaded to me especially now that you are older, I'm more "concerned" about Stroggoz which I feel is more prone to anxiety than you I just hope he doesn't get sucked further into the self destructive ideologies you dwell in, I think you've hurt RikD in the past with your influence, hope it doesnt happen the same with Stroggoz although he seems more resistant to influence.
Have you begun having memory problems already? I've mentioned twice that it's especially the case in the context of ultra-longevity, he expects to live for hundreds of years if not forever, so it's in effect the same as having a long line of descendants being affected by it.
I expect to be affected by it in the same ways I have already been, extreme weather effects which don't pose an existential threat to me. Even if they could trouble my routine for some time, I don't rely on having a bunch of technology and expensive treatments and a group of workers devoted to me, so my routine being disturbed is not an equivalent to his being disturbed. Of course there's other issues that will get worse like economic / racial tensions from increased immigration but I don't expect that to prevent me from working and it's not turning me into a prepper.
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On March 25 2025 05:25 Loco wrote:
I expect to be affected by it in the same ways I have already been, extreme weather effects which don't pose an existential threat to me. Even if they could trouble my routine for some time, I don't rely on having a bunch of technology and expensive treatments and a group of workers devoted to me, so my routine being disturbed is not an equivalent to his being disturbed. Of course there's other issues that will get worse like economic / racial tensions from increased immigration but I don't expect that to prevent me from working and it's not turning me into a prepper.
yeah prepping is for high agency schizo paranoids, lefties have no agency and want others to do the work for them
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Mar 28 2025 07:49. Posts 5365
On March 19 2025 17:53 Stroggoz wrote:
There's a chance this guy will die from a papercut once the antibiotics run out. That would be pretty ironic.
There isn't a more miserable archetype than the doomsday-obsessed-leftist, sure save the bees and fight the man are cool and all when you are a teenager but if you are still trying to derive some life meaning in that whlie you approach 40 you are fucked, you are no different than Bryan Johnson throwing your lives away in metastasized anxiety, neurotic acolytes.
In before I get flooded with 100 studies about antibiotic resistant bacteria totally missing the point.... the point being that I've been pro phasing out fossils for nuclear for 15 years in this forum, while somebody else in this thread has been quite antinuclear all this time and that's is simply because acolytes don't have eyes nor care to see, they just follow dogma and thankfully you are not that far gone, but given your posts about climate and other threats it seems to me that you've grown more anxious over the years, don't walk down that path bro.
Climate change and ecology has in fact never once made me feel anxious or depressed, even though I think and work on it every day and do believe that very dark times are here already and will get dramatically worse.
I treat it with a dark sense of humor and have to laugh at the absurdity of the world we live in. No amount of genius could ever imagine this world we have.
It's the reaction to climate change that has made me frustrated, but at this point the climate movement is quite big and there are about 5 groups in my local area that I try to network with and learn from. I don't think we will be that successful but it's worth a shot.
That people are willing to fight is reward enough for me. In the meantime, I'll try my best at understanding capitalism and people can use me as a weapon.
I'm just a bit surprised that your views are fairly unchanged given all that has happened in the last 10 years, in both scientific understanding of the climate and political crises and cultural shifts too. Nuclear is not something that people even talk about anymore.
You can be 40 years old and work a part time job and do environmental activism in your spare time BTW.
Personally I have adhd so I've always had issues with extreme levels of hyperfocus which you may remember from the stone cutter days. It doesn't really have anything to do with anxiety but it does make life balance pretty hard. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
A lot of the politics talk to with people is really not that extreme lefty stuff either. I am on the radical left but its just not the time or place for political philosophy anymore.
Like the right to repair is one thing I'm interested in lately and there's a lot of common ground for libertarians and ecologists over it.
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PuertoRican United States. Mar 30 2025 20:14. Posts 13181
If you're the healthiest man alive, then your life would suck.
Eating junk food and having cheat meals is fun when you're doing group activities like watching a sports game or celebrating a win that your team had, like the Superbowl or NBA finals.
On March 25 2025 05:25 Loco wrote:
I expect to be affected by it in the same ways I have already been, extreme weather effects which don't pose an existential threat to me. Even if they could trouble my routine for some time, I don't rely on having a bunch of technology and expensive treatments and a group of workers devoted to me, so my routine being disturbed is not an equivalent to his being disturbed. Of course there's other issues that will get worse like economic / racial tensions from increased immigration but I don't expect that to prevent me from working and it's not turning me into a prepper.
yeah prepping is for high agency schizo paranoids, lefties have no agency and want others to do the work for them
Considering how you've been crying about antifa for years and claimed they were more dangerous than Nazis I will take that statement with a huge grain of ironic salt.
Reminds me of the Umberto Eco Ur-fascist strategy of "painting the enemy as both being too weak and too strong at the same time"
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Apr 03 2025 20:56. Posts 5365
On March 25 2025 05:25 Loco wrote:
I expect to be affected by it in the same ways I have already been, extreme weather effects which don't pose an existential threat to me. Even if they could trouble my routine for some time, I don't rely on having a bunch of technology and expensive treatments and a group of workers devoted to me, so my routine being disturbed is not an equivalent to his being disturbed. Of course there's other issues that will get worse like economic / racial tensions from increased immigration but I don't expect that to prevent me from working and it's not turning me into a prepper.
yeah prepping is for high agency schizo paranoids, lefties have no agency and want others to do the work for them
Considering how you've been crying about antifa for years and claimed they were more dangerous than Nazis I will take that statement with a huge grain of ironic salt.
Reminds me of the Umberto Eco Ur-fascist strategy of "painting the enemy as both being too weak and too strong at the same time"
Thats a funny one. I definitely get that schizophrenic fascist discussions surrounding Putin and also the marxists who are simultaneously pathetic losers but also running universities. (Jordan Peterson).
I feel like Baals strategy is to portray you as the dark lord who corrupts all he touches while im like the model but flawed leftwinger that does things right and Rikd is an Easterling that has been corrupted by your influence. Im not sure what the point of it is though.
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On March 25 2025 05:25 Loco wrote:
I expect to be affected by it in the same ways I have already been, extreme weather effects which don't pose an existential threat to me. Even if they could trouble my routine for some time, I don't rely on having a bunch of technology and expensive treatments and a group of workers devoted to me, so my routine being disturbed is not an equivalent to his being disturbed. Of course there's other issues that will get worse like economic / racial tensions from increased immigration but I don't expect that to prevent me from working and it's not turning me into a prepper.
yeah prepping is for high agency schizo paranoids, lefties have no agency and want others to do the work for them
Considering how you've been crying about antifa for years and claimed they were more dangerous than Nazis I will take that statement with a huge grain of ironic salt.
Reminds me of the Umberto Eco Ur-fascist strategy of "painting the enemy as both being too weak and too strong at the same time"
Thats a funny one. I definitely get that schizophrenic fascist discussions surrounding Putin and also the marxists who are simultaneously pathetic losers but also running universities. (Jordan Peterson).
I feel like Baals strategy is to portray you as the dark lord who corrupts all he touches while im like the model but flawed leftwinger that does things right and Rikd is an Easterling that has been corrupted by your influence. Im not sure what the point of it is though.
Don't try to find some deep point to it, they are just extremely blind, childish, prejudiced people, full of hypocrisy. It's all about them, their desire for power and money, and society does not truly exist in their minds. They have not been taught how to think critically and just throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks. Hilarious that Baal calls us doomers when people on his side which he likes and defends like Jordan Peterson can say things like "I don't think Canada will survive 4 more years with the liberal party in power" and his BIGGEST FEAR -- get that -- is that the liberal party, Carney specifically, is too much of an environmentalist! It's fucking insane. These people have brainworms. Carney is to him what antifa is to Baal - the sign of the end of civilization lol. His video is full of baseless fearmongering and a bunch of anti-environmental propaganda. "There is no evidence that there is a climate crisis". "More co2 in the atmosphere is actually good - we have more plants as a result". "Actually this is the lowest period of co2 concentration in the last 500 million years!" etc. You're either brain-dead or you're paid a lot of money by people in power to lie about things like this. He should have never gotten out of his medically-induced coma to treat his drug addiction.
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On March 28 2025 06:49 Stroggoz wrote:
Climate change and ecology has in fact never once made me feel anxious or depressed, even though I think and work on it every day and do believe that very dark times are here already and will get dramatically worse.
I treat it with a dark sense of humor and have to laugh at the absurdity of the world we live in. No amount of genius could ever imagine this world we have.
It's the reaction to climate change that has made me frustrated, but at this point the climate movement is quite big and there are about 5 groups in my local area that I try to network with and learn from. I don't think we will be that successful but it's worth a shot.
That is exactly what I feared, you made it the bane of your existence, and the Choplinesque laughing to avoid going mad isn't really helping your case.
I'm just a bit surprised that your views are fairly unchanged given all that has happened in the last 10 years, in both scientific understanding of the climate and political crises and cultural shifts too. Nuclear is not something that people even talk about anymore.[/quote]
I won't bite on "what has changed" regarding global warming I don't want to be flooded by meaningless info, it all seems pretty much the same to me in regards of situation and solutions, and about political and cultural shifts I dont think it anything surprising happened, the pendulum is swinging back, thankfully the left espoused radical social ideas that were too unpalatable for the normies and they accelerated the push back.
You can be 40 years old and work a part time job and do environmental activism in your spare time BTW.
I'm more of the previously mentioned high agency schizo kind, activism is for low agency morons that is if global warming were a particular interest of mine. It isn't.
Like the right to repair is one thing I'm interested in lately and there's a lot of common ground for libertarians and ecologists over it.
I really like the idea of reparable things, I think the overly wasteful consumption is culturally isolated to the US, pretty much everyone I know that visits the US finds it disgusting how much wasteful they are in things as simple as how the package their vegetables for example, there should be a strong marketing drive towards reparable things like that modular cellphone that we all saw but never came to fruition.
On March 31 2025 06:52 Loco wrote:
Considering how you've been crying about antifa for years and claimed they were more dangerous than Nazis I will take that statement with a huge grain of ironic salt.
Reminds me of the Umberto Eco Ur-fascist strategy of "painting the enemy as both being too weak and too strong at the same time"
Protesting and destroying things isn't high agency you dumbass it's quite the opposite, a high agency leftist would do things like build a business and give the "means of productions" to the workers, get some remote land and build a thriving commune or something along those lines.
Leftists aren't strong individually, they are mostly low agency mobs but they dangerous because there are many like you, its an idea very easy to sell to the masses, just like religion, people will believe idiotic things if they like them.
On April 03 2025 19:56 Stroggoz wrote:
Thats a funny one. I definitely get that schizophrenic fascist discussions surrounding Putin and also the marxists who are simultaneously pathetic losers but also running universities. (Jordan Peterson).
I feel like Baals strategy is to portray you as the dark lord who corrupts all he touches while im like the model but flawed leftwinger that does things right and Rikd is an Easterling that has been corrupted by your influence. Im not sure what the point of it is though.
No it isn't as poetic as that, he is just a guy who our of rebellious resentment to his family fell into ideologies that he should have grown out of by now but hasn't been able to.
He didn't corrupt Rik, he simply gave bad advice and enabled a mentally ill person who was mid-psychotic-crisis was blaming capitalism out of all things for his problems instead of taking responsibility for his addictions and actions.
You are not skywalker and he Darthvader lol, you are just a smart guy like him who was also ruminating on the same ideas and I thought he would likely nudge you into walking his same sad path, and it seems you are.
Oh well, at least we saved Floofy.
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the Fairphone appears to be quite popular, though I do not own such a device. It needs to be priced in through removing vat or something, if it has a long warranty that is.
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