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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 27 2010 17:36. Posts 34294


  On March 27 2010 15:21 Bigbobm wrote:
i wonder if people who run liquor stores share this moral debate.



well pretty much any convenience store who sells alcohol or cigarettes.

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anarki   Belgium. Mar 27 2010 17:39. Posts 288

darwin is my hero

The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. - John Steinbeck 

anarki   Belgium. Mar 27 2010 17:49. Posts 288


  On May 17 2007 02:26 Baal wrote:
i feel like going to poland and rape ur family then set you on fire and blame it on destiny


uhh this is the biggest bs i've ever quoted -______-

The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. - John Steinbeck 

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 27 2010 18:01. Posts 5124

Poker is innocent fun, the people losing money in poker dont look at it like you good players are taking it from them - they are viewing it like "I Spent X $ on poker tonight". "I could have spent that on ____ ""But i chose to spend it on Poker". "And I had fun sucking out on Exhilirate so he could post it on this forum "

:DLast edit: 27/03/2010 18:03

Maynard!   United States. Mar 27 2010 18:10. Posts 4453

I wouldnt feel sorry about winning money from doctors or lawyers who earn far more than you. They probably feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for people with addiction problems. I don't feel sorry about taking their money.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

lebowski   Greece. Mar 27 2010 18:53. Posts 9205

winning in poker is a defensive act.
all these mofos are out there to get your bankroll

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

bigbb33   Canada. Mar 27 2010 18:55. Posts 3679

Answer: no

they see me trollin, they hatin 

Minsk   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:20. Posts 1558

There is no anwser to this question. It depends on how you view life and what values/morals you live by.

Personally, i dont think about it because there is no anwser, but when i did think about it.... i felt justified


blackjacki2   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:26. Posts 2582

The problem with poker players is they provide a crummy product. Even if people are going to blow their money on booze, that's not a much worse product than playing a game for a few hours and getting beat out of your money. But I agree with everyone that if they are a degen they are going to lose their money anyway, if not to you then to the house.


TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 27 2010 20:28. Posts 20070

its called natural selection, if some retard puts up his rent money in a poker game and loses... oops, gg dumbass

next

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 27 2010 20:29. Posts 20070

thats like Kobe Byrant feeling bad for Dwight Howard after winning the NBA championship because hes on a better team

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

terrybunny19240   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:33. Posts 13829

I have always had a problem with winning, I feel bad that someone has to lose. I hate to inflict pain or cause people to feel sorrow, but I am at the same time very competitive. It makes for a very odd combination.. For instance, I don't mind at all to constantly lose at a video game or sport so long as I feel like we had a good fight.. but then.. eventually.. at the end of the day I hate myself for not doing my best, or for not winning as high of a % of the time as I could (even if my 'true skill' would still result in less than 50% chance of victory).

Playing HU it comes up the most. I have definitely felt very, very bad after I took 6 buyins from someone.. But IMO, this is illogical and so I have done my best to overcome this feeling.

I dunno, just random thoughts this topic brought up...


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 27 2010 20:34. Posts 5124

Its not only in poker that your win means someone had to lose thou

:D 

blackjacki2   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:52. Posts 2582


  On March 27 2010 19:29 TalentedTom wrote:
thats like Kobe Byrant feeling bad for Dwight Howard after winning the NBA championship because hes on a better team



what you're saying is like Durrrr feeling bad for Ivey for beating him in a pot. It's nothing like feeling bad for beating someone out of their rent money.


iamalex   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:53. Posts 1556

Everyone you sit down with at a poker table is choosing to do so and must accept full responsibility for the consequences, even if they are addicts.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Mar 27 2010 21:15. Posts 8918

Well thinking in broader terms since there will always be unemployment, you are always competing for a job against other people, and being hired for a job means that you just beat other people to it. Its not a perfect analogy but whatever, the bottom line is worry about yourself first, because others wont.


phexac   United States. Mar 28 2010 00:39. Posts 2563

Actually while playing live poker, I find that there are way fewer people at the poker tables who cannot afford their losses than at slots or table games where they are forced to play against the casino. I'd say the vast majority of poker players I see can afford their losses.

But to answer the OP's question--I don't really care about that. Just as I would not care if I was a fund manager and collected a fee from people who invested in my fund without providing them with an iota of benefit over a simple index fund.

Nitting it up since 2006 

player999   Brasil. Mar 28 2010 00:53. Posts 7978

one time i beat someone for half his roll and i felt bad
+ Show Spoiler +

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

EzPzLmnSqz   United States. Mar 28 2010 01:08. Posts 549


  On March 27 2010 23:53 player999 wrote:
one time i beat someone for half his roll and i felt bad
+ Show Spoiler +



thank god finally


NewbSaibot   United States. Mar 28 2010 03:00. Posts 4946

Personally I dont think theres really anyone so hard up on cash that they are literally gambling with the last dollar to their name. I dont care if they throw the keys to their car on the table and the deed to their house. They'll find a way to survive, they'll sell something of value, go beg for food, whatever. So who am I to feel guilty for what someone else considers valuable or not? If someone wants to give me their car on a single hand of poker, then clearly their car wasnt that big of a deal to them. Everyone has their breaking point, and even the most degenerate of addicts will eventually break down and stop. Gambling addiction is nothing like other addictions. If someone was somehow being injected with heroine every time they lost to me, and once the heroine runs out they'll have to suck dick for more, yea maybe then I'll feel sorry and get them to stop. But gambling? Ez addiction, get over it.

bye now 

 
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