ever consider your position as a winning gambler?

what do you think about the fact that as a winning poker player you comprise much of your income from people with legitimate gambling problems. ever question the morality of your trade?


Ex: after taking a guy for like 800 heads up.
snowboardr21: this is fuucked
Dealer: snowboardr21, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
seannolan: WHAT IS
snowboardr21: i really needed the money
snowboardr21: im not gonna make rent

who cares? I got no empathy for retards, its like feeling sorry for someone who is a fatass. STOP FUCKING EATING how hard is that.

Their have been numerous threads like this before, I can hardly wait to see the same basic arguements and refutes ensue.

this is such a thinly veiled brag for being a winning gambler and taking 800$ off someone hu

On May 15 2007 17:11 DaEm0niCuS wrote: who cares? I got no empathy for retards, its like feeling sorry for someone who is a fatass. STOP FUCKING EATING how hard is that.

pretty damn hard?

"stop eating so much" would be more reasonable i guess

Put down the fork FACE!

Don't play heads up. Or play someone heads up who has money. That way you wont be specifically targeting one person who will taunt your conscious afterwards. I realized that a lot of bad shit happens to me in life too that is unfair so I kinda of use poker as a way of balancing things back into my favor. I do think about this a lot at it affects my motivation to play sometimes as well. Everyone has problems in life and if you go around thinking about it all the time I think your gonna have a very unhappy life.

For example: If you see a bum on the streets starving and have no home are u going to donate a house and food to him? If not he might die the next day and you could have done something about it. As long as you are winning the money legitimately there should be no moral regrets I think. If you didn't take the money someone else probably would have. It's not like they are unaware that they have a chance of losing all their money. They assume that responsibility when they play not you. When you lose money at the table who the hell is gonna feel bad for you? If you lost 800 bucks that could have been a new laptop for you right there. Whoever u are daemonicus, you probably should seek some help.

I don't care, it's their choice to gamble, if it gets them into trouble it's their own fucking fault. Fuck 'em all. Yea.

If i dont take their money, someone else will. The degens are adults capable of making on decisions/seeking help etc. Maybe this argument isnt morally flawless but it atleast helps me sleep at night.

I dont give a shit at all, except for if I notice some guy who loses a LOT. Then I feel a little bad, and keep taking his munnies!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128743

this thread will be a carbon copy

wow it is as well.. even including op thinly veiling a brag about winning monies hohoho

i never feel bad. there are 2 options. Either villian is bankrolled for the limit he is playing or he isnt. If he is who cares if u win $$ of him, its the whole point of the game, and option 2, if he isn't rolled for the limit it's even better, because he didnt get his teeth kicked in enough to learn so it might as well be u who take his $$ than someother gamer.

^^ thats how i feel about poker.

* would like to add, if its a family game or non poker playing (just friends) then we play low stakes so who cares who wins anyways. In fact in family fames or like super small buyin sit n go with friends who dont play full time, i play my best but im actually happier that one of them wins than me. Dono thats how i feel.

Aside from not cheating or doing something else otherwise illegal/against the rules of the game, I have no moral obligations to random degenerates. Thus I don't care what happens to them thanks to my winning their money.

why feel bad? its their problem. fuck them their fault.

i have no sympathy for crack fiends either their fault for doing it, no sympathy for a lot of people actually. hmm im pretty unsympathetic.

On May 15 2007 17:11 DaEm0niCuS wrote: who cares? I got no empathy for retards, its like feeling sorry for someone who is a fatass. STOP FUCKING EATING how hard is that.

QFT

i always ask if they can afford losing before i call with the nuts

no ive actually never thought about it, guess i dont really see my opponents as real people

Doesn't bother me at all, and even if I played a stake at which I could take someone's rent money it wouldn't bother me.

eh im microlimit cant take much from one person so i sleep well.
If pokersites doesn't care, we as people have no control.

It's really not so different from any other competitive aspect of life, is it?

Would you feel bad that you won vs someone in a qualifier for some tournament (in whatever sport/game)? He might have invested alot into this and might lose a lot of money as a result of you beating him (let's use starcraft as an example: when you beat someone in the semi-pro license tournament, it means he won't be able to get picked up by a pro team and recieve a salary but will have to keep on waiting for another month.. should you feel bad?).

Or if you beat someone in the yearly Go professional exams, you might crush his or her dreams of going pro (especially brutal here as I believe several of these tests have an upper age limit..). Yes, I realize these are not exactly everyday examples but I'm interested in both these 'sports' so I choose them to demonstrate my point =]

Would you feel bad that you got the job you were applying for over everyone else, simply because you were more qualified/got lucky?

I dunno, I don't think you can function as a human being in our society without being able to deal with these things as they are inherent to pretty much every competitive aspect of life - someone has to lose. And in some cases, losing has serious consequences.

In the end, they choose to play poker, just as you did. It's no more your fault that they go broke than it is your fault that you got the job due to higher qualifications IMO. Maybe them not getting the job will lead to them losing their house and family, you can't know that and you can't feel responsible for it or you'll go insane.